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The Speech: Obama Defends Health-Care Reform Before Joint Session of Congress

It wasn’t exactly what I wanted to hear, but it was close… close enough, I suppose.

Alas, President Obama left open the possibility that his preferred public option — which, in my view, should be non-negotiable (see also Krugman on this) — could be replaced with some other alternative to private insurance, such as a non-profit co-op system or a “trigger” (which would kick in a public option were insurance companies unable or unwilling to provide adequate coverage), but at least he criticized the fearmongering “scare tactics” of the other side, emphasized choice and the need to regulate the insurance industry, and spoke directly not just to Congress but to the American people about his plan.

It was what needed to be done… and what needed to be said. Let it be the start of a new chapter in the fight for equitable health care in America. Let it be the start of a public awareness campaign to make sure that Americans understand the truth about the plan without being misled by the distortions of its opponents. Let it be the start of a concerted effort on the part of Democrats to pull together to get this done.

Well the time for bickering is over. The time for games has passed. Now is the season for action.

Then go for it, Mr. President.

Now is when we must bring the best ideas of both parties together, and show the American people that we can still do what we were sent here to do. Now is the time to deliver on health care.

Fine, but you do realize that the “best ideas” of the Republicans currently seem to involve lies and misrepresentations, right? Sure, I know there are some conservatives who do talk seriously about health-care reform, but the Republican Party is a party of obstructionism and opposition to reform. You may be able to work with one or two of them, or perhaps just one of them (Snowe), but that’s it. The point should not be to bring the two parties together, as if somehow a state of equality exists between them and what they espouse, but to bring Democrats together. (Ambinder thinks that Obama’s intended audience was “the 100 or so liberal Democrats who have threatened to oppose a bill that doesn’t include a public option,” and he may well be right. But I think he was also speaking to those who oppose the public option and are leaning Republican. Yes, he needs those liberal Dems, but, if somehow he ends up with what so many of us want, namely, a bill with a robust public option, he’ll also need some of the skeptics to come back into the fold.)

It’s time to deliver, yes, but it’s not time to compromise to the point where whatever bill is passed is so watered down that meaningful reform is avoided, and it’s certainly not time to agree to concessions just to win over a few Republicans. Ultimately, we may have to settle for an alternative to a public option, but, at this point, there is no reason not to push for more extensive reform.

Indeed, what Obama and the Democrats need to understand — and I realize this is hard for Democrats — is that they actually have the upper hand here, and that they need to take advantage of the historic opportunity that has been presented to them. They have one of their own in the White House to go along with two huge majorities in Congress. At long last, reform is there for the doing.

So do it.

(Cross-posted from The Reaction.)

  • Leonidas
    Congrats Micheal you just started the 11th thread about the obama speech. Yay!!!

    Come on gang use the comments section of another thread, be good sports and let those columnists and editors who posted first stay near the top of the blog instead of pushing the ongoing debate/comversation going on on the other threads down the list.
  • TheMagicalSkyFather
    Dont worry Leonidas you and DLS can jump on all 11 and spin your arses off or at least it seems to be what you have done so far. Wanna tell us how Wilson told the truth again?
  • Leonidas
    Sure The Politico mentions it along with democrats heckling Bush

    Dems heckled Bush, but Wilson was different

    Joe Wilson's 15 minutes of infamy notwithstanding, Democrats were pretty rough on George W. Bush during a joint sessions a few years back.

    Two examples:

    In 2004, Democrats delivered a “Chorus Of Boos” during Bush's Bush’s State Of The Union when he called for renewal of the Patriot Act., according to the Washington Times.

    In 2005, Dems howled, hissed and shouted "No!" when Bush pushed for Social Security reform in the SOU: "Foreshadowing the contentiousness of the coming debate, Democrats broke decorum and booed twice," according to the National Journal.

    At the time, CNN's Bill Schneider remarked, “It was unusual. I had never heard it at least at that level before. The Democrats clearly were booing, heckling, saying no when the president talked about the crisis in Social Security."

    Moreover, Obama's claim that illegal immigrants won't be covered -- which sparked Wilson's outburst -- while technically accurate, doesn't quite tell the entire story. Some of the bills being considered in the House and Senate contain provisions locking in local statutes that prevent providers from inquiring about immigration status prior to treatment. And illegals are treated, and are bound to be treated, in ERs, covered by local, state and federal uninsured pools.

    So why the outcry over Wilson?

    I think it's because Congressional Republicans have used the health care debate to vent a deeper, uglier contempt for Obama that verges on the personal.

    They've done little to discourage the party's fringes from questioning Obama's legitimacy to serve through the birther movement, fitness to govern through the death panel canard -- and even the territorial integrity of the US under a Democratic president through Texas Gov. Rick Perry's flirtation with secession.

    Anger may stoke the base at town halls -- and goose Glenn Beck -- but it just looks ugly on the national stage.


    Also this

    Wilson wasn't just making stuff up.

    http://www.cis.org/IllegalsAndHealthCareHR3200

    Although the bill states illegal immigrants are not to benefit from the new affordability credits, this prohibition is without an enforcement mechanism. Congress voted down an amendment in committee that would have required the use of the SAVE program. Almost all other means-tested programs of the kind found in HR 3200 require the use of SAVE. As it now stands, the bill has a ban on illegal immigrants, but Congress has chosen to leave that ban unenforced. As a result, the nearly seven million uninsured illegal immigrants with qualifying incomes could receive affordability credits under the bill, creating billions of dollars in costs to taxpayers. If the final version of health care reform includes a public option plan and if illegal immigrants enroll in that program instead of receiving affordability credits, the costs would be less for taxpayers. Nonetheless, if the government became the direct insurer of illegal immigrants, the cost of covering them would still run into the billions of dollars.



    If Congress was serious about not paying for illegals having their healthcare costs covered the would not have voted down use of the SAVE program. Until they approve use of it, democrats are just blowing smoke.
  • SteveK
    Request a Moderator for clean-up or aisle 11... 10... and 9.

    Leonidas keeps dropping the same spam all over the store.

    FWIW Leonidas... Spam (along with all the other canned baloney) is on aisle 4
  • Davebo
    As it now stands, the bill has a ban on illegal immigrants, but Congress has chosen to leave that ban unenforced.


    So fraud is now legal?
  • SteveK
    This is at least the third time you've spammed a link to CIS. The CIS is a racist group that put all their energy into kicking Mexicans out of the country.

    The CIS Executive Director is xenophobe Mark Krikorian. It's an easy Google to find all you need to know about Mark Krikorian. hint: He's not the least bit interested in Health Care Reform... He's into Mexicans.

    Here's one of Mark Krikorian's anti-Hispanic rants.

    It's probably wise to look at where Leonidas gets his "facts" (sic) before you give them credence.
  • "Spam (along with all the other canned baloney) is on aisle 4"

    LOL. Good one.
  • DLS
    Would Mikey neglect splattering his waste again when opportunity presents itself to such people?

    Noooooooooooo.

    Note that Obama's and the Congre-Dems' plan don't offer free drug trips for foreigners yet, Mikey.
  • DLS
    "Come on gang"

    They can't or won't even acknowledge or admit that the speech includes a few relevent points and a huge amount of garbage. Of course, the garbage would have appealed primarily if not exclusively to whom?
  • Leonidas
  • CStanley
    What's even more annoying is the paucity of any posts that actually discuss the content of the speech. I actually thought there were a few interesting things that Obama said and was hoping to see what people's reactions and opinions on those points were. Instead, the only time the actual speech was discussed came in the context of whether or not Wilson was correct in saying that Obama lied.

    If this isn't a perfect example of political gamesmanship preventing citizens from actually engaging in discussions of real issues, I don't know what is.
  • Leonidas
    Agreed CStanley and I am guilty of it as well. If you want to discuss this sans talking points and such I'll put it aside and be more than willing, and have in some places, but surely not enough. Thank you for the reminder.
  • DLS
    "What's even more annoying is the paucity of any posts that actually discuss the content of the speech."

    I've listed the factual elements on more than one thread, as well as identified the many defects.

    Many don't care about that, but want to do Republican-bashing or other silliness instead. (Maybe the identification of the many defects sets off the especially touchy among the desperate and hurried these days; who knows.)
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