It seemed to me to be another case of talking past one another. Yes, Democrats are right to point at the Republicans didn't pay for their programs. But how does that address the concern that Guliani raised: that if you're not going to consider other cost-saving measures like those he mentioned, how do you pay for the bill (and they have committed to pay for it) without cutting benefits? There is a counter-argument to that, but it's not the one Ford responded with (“Well, at least we're paying for it”).

“Note how early in the clip Ford has to bite his tongue while waiting to get a word in edgewise.”

Noted. An impressive tongue-bite.