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	<title>Comments on: The Permission Slip Of The Silly (Well Not To Some) Times</title>
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		<title>By: EEllis</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45385/the-permission-slip-of-the-silly-well-not-to-some-times/comment-page-2/#comment-211800</link>
		<dc:creator>EEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 18:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Many on the far right are prepared to oppose Obama no matter what he says or does.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Which is why when some overreact you and others overreact in reply and pretend there was never any basis for any concern. Makes sense to you I&#039;m sure.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Obviously, that was not a serious suggestion&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So maybe you could denote what part of your arguments I should respond to and whats total BS that you will jettison and mock people for countering. Just to save us both the trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Many on the far right are prepared to oppose Obama no matter what he says or does.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is why when some overreact you and others overreact in reply and pretend there was never any basis for any concern. Makes sense to you I&#39;m sure.</p>
<p>&#8220;Obviously, that was not a serious suggestion&#8221;</p>
<p>So maybe you could denote what part of your arguments I should respond to and whats total BS that you will jettison and mock people for countering. Just to save us both the trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, that was not a serious suggestion, but if you have a short fuse-- go ahead an vent :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; I said it to make a point that we do have some elements of socialism already, and they have served the  elders, widows  and disabled in our society fairly well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many on the far right are prepared to oppose Obama no matter what he says or does. He could capture OBL and there would be those who would claim that Osama is no longer important, and that Obama only captured him to create a diversion from the health care mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, that was not a serious suggestion, but if you have a short fuse&#8211; go ahead an vent <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p> I said it to make a point that we do have some elements of socialism already, and they have served the  elders, widows  and disabled in our society fairly well.</p>
<p>Many on the far right are prepared to oppose Obama no matter what he says or does. He could capture OBL and there would be those who would claim that Osama is no longer important, and that Obama only captured him to create a diversion from the health care mess.</p>
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		<title>By: EEllis</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45385/the-permission-slip-of-the-silly-well-not-to-some-times/comment-page-2/#comment-211735</link>
		<dc:creator>EEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But put a kibosh on these idiotic comparisons&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You mean crap like asking conservatives to give back SSI and Medicare? Practice what you preach and maybe you&#039;ll have a little credibility. Right now you&#039;re pigs in the same pen bitching about how the &quot;other&quot; pig smells bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But put a kibosh on these idiotic comparisons&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean crap like asking conservatives to give back SSI and Medicare? Practice what you preach and maybe you&#39;ll have a little credibility. Right now you&#39;re pigs in the same pen bitching about how the &#8220;other&#8221; pig smells bad.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45385/the-permission-slip-of-the-silly-well-not-to-some-times/comment-page-2/#comment-211716</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 06:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, half a loaf is better than none,lol.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; But though many conservatives seem to want to go back to the good old days, its important to note that during the last century most people worked until they died and most- before the New Deal could not own their own homes. Workers had to put up with unsafe conditions in many occupations and often worked 6 12 hour days.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this country wealth is concentrated at the top--- we are nowhere near being socialist or communist.&lt;br&gt;To suggest this is just as bad as comparing Bush and Cheney to Hitler.  In other words, its only the desperate who resort to these kind of suggestions. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The right can&#039;t fight fair so they conjure up images of a totalitarian state- so that their followers won&#039;t even give the new administration a chance. Its fear-mongering at its worst- something the far right has gotten extremely good at. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If there are policy disagreements, come out with them. But put a kibosh on these idiotic comparisons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, half a loaf is better than none,lol.  </p>
<p> But though many conservatives seem to want to go back to the good old days, its important to note that during the last century most people worked until they died and most- before the New Deal could not own their own homes. Workers had to put up with unsafe conditions in many occupations and often worked 6 12 hour days.</p>
<p>In this country wealth is concentrated at the top&#8212; we are nowhere near being socialist or communist.<br />To suggest this is just as bad as comparing Bush and Cheney to Hitler.  In other words, its only the desperate who resort to these kind of suggestions. </p>
<p>The right can&#39;t fight fair so they conjure up images of a totalitarian state- so that their followers won&#39;t even give the new administration a chance. Its fear-mongering at its worst- something the far right has gotten extremely good at. </p>
<p>If there are policy disagreements, come out with them. But put a kibosh on these idiotic comparisons.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMagicalSkyFather</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMagicalSkyFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 05:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kritt11-Well I agree 100% with your first paragraph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kritt11-Well I agree 100% with your first paragraph.</p>
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		<title>By: EEllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>EEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 04:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why not give back your Social Security checks and refuse your Medicare benefits.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sure right after you get those assholes to stop taking my money!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why not give back your Social Security checks and refuse your Medicare benefits.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure right after you get those assholes to stop taking my money!!!</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45385/the-permission-slip-of-the-silly-well-not-to-some-times/comment-page-2/#comment-211698</link>
		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 04:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its easy in the talk radio world to create the false impression that any  black liberal Democrat has to be a socialist or a Communist. This is the far right&#039;s plan to win back the WH in 2012. Its brainwashing- pure and simple.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You righties want pure capitalism? Why not give back your Social Security checks and refuse your Medicare benefits. We&#039;ve had pure capitalism, and it resulted in child labor, unsafe working conditions and filthy tenements full of disease. Robber barons made huge fortunes which their descendants used for philanthropic causes. Presently, we have a hybrid of capitalism and socialism and it works pretty well. It enabled a poor fatherless kid born in Hawaii to become president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its easy in the talk radio world to create the false impression that any  black liberal Democrat has to be a socialist or a Communist. This is the far right&#39;s plan to win back the WH in 2012. Its brainwashing- pure and simple.</p>
<p>You righties want pure capitalism? Why not give back your Social Security checks and refuse your Medicare benefits. We&#39;ve had pure capitalism, and it resulted in child labor, unsafe working conditions and filthy tenements full of disease. Robber barons made huge fortunes which their descendants used for philanthropic causes. Presently, we have a hybrid of capitalism and socialism and it works pretty well. It enabled a poor fatherless kid born in Hawaii to become president.</p>
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		<title>By: EEllis</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45385/the-permission-slip-of-the-silly-well-not-to-some-times/comment-page-2/#comment-211684</link>
		<dc:creator>EEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Oh it&#039;s racism. What people say about the President when black people are not around, is unbelievable&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Try hanging around with a better class of people. Perhaps it&#039;s just like calling to like because right now you seem like a bigot to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oh it&#39;s racism. What people say about the President when black people are not around, is unbelievable&#8221;</p>
<p>Try hanging around with a better class of people. Perhaps it&#39;s just like calling to like because right now you seem like a bigot to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Father_Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father_Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 01:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh it&#039;s racism. What people say about the President when black people are not around, is unbelievable.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What they say when black are around, is mere partisan politics.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A lack of confidence based in racism permeates America and it makes me sick. Worse yet, it gives ME a lack of confidence in Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh it&#39;s racism. What people say about the President when black people are not around, is unbelievable.</p>
<p>What they say when black are around, is mere partisan politics.</p>
<p>A lack of confidence based in racism permeates America and it makes me sick. Worse yet, it gives ME a lack of confidence in Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMagicalSkyFather</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMagicalSkyFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work hard to remain in the unreasonable camp.  If the nation were to swing that direction I would likely swing back to libertarianism and go all Ron Paul.  I think I just like to poke people in the eye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work hard to remain in the unreasonable camp.  If the nation were to swing that direction I would likely swing back to libertarianism and go all Ron Paul.  I think I just like to poke people in the eye.</p>
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		<title>By: EEllis</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45385/the-permission-slip-of-the-silly-well-not-to-some-times/comment-page-1/#comment-211656</link>
		<dc:creator>EEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 21:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if that commercial is part of the &quot;speech&quot; or not. I did hear it would be, but since it hasn&#039;t happened yet who knows. I also figure they&#039;ll be doing a little work after all the hoopla. I do want to thank Polimom for saying I&#039;m perfectly reasonable, that&#039;s not something I&#039;ve heard much of here. As far as what difference Obama&#039;s speech would make please see my reference to anti drug speeches that seem to fall short.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t know if that commercial is part of the &#8220;speech&#8221; or not. I did hear it would be, but since it hasn&#39;t happened yet who knows. I also figure they&#39;ll be doing a little work after all the hoopla. I do want to thank Polimom for saying I&#39;m perfectly reasonable, that&#39;s not something I&#39;ve heard much of here. As far as what difference Obama&#39;s speech would make please see my reference to anti drug speeches that seem to fall short.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillmz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jillmz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 21:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve mostly just tweeted (&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/jillmz&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://twitter.com/jillmz&lt;/a&gt;) my thoughts on this situation but I also have been using this quote from the blog of a friend of mine in the Ohio blogosphere who is a conservative former political operative, and a father:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is what he wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    &quot;I could care less that Obama is speaking for 15-20 minutes to my daughter during school.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    &quot;I am 100% positive that he will not successfully change any of the beliefs &amp; values she has come to   hold after being on this planet for nearly 14 years.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    &quot;If you think Obama is going to have that kind of influence on your child then you might want&lt;br&gt;    to take a look in the mirror at the type of parent you have been to your child up to this point in their life that you believe the Snake Oil Salesman in Chief can change your child&#039;s beliefs &amp; values in a speech that is less than 20 minutes long.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve mostly just tweeted (<a href="http://twitter.com/jillmz" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/jillmz</a>) my thoughts on this situation but I also have been using this quote from the blog of a friend of mine in the Ohio blogosphere who is a conservative former political operative, and a father:</p>
<p>This is what he wrote:</p>
<p>    &#8220;I could care less that Obama is speaking for 15-20 minutes to my daughter during school.</p>
<p>    &#8220;I am 100% positive that he will not successfully change any of the beliefs &#038; values she has come to   hold after being on this planet for nearly 14 years.</p>
<p>    &#8220;If you think Obama is going to have that kind of influence on your child then you might want<br />    to take a look in the mirror at the type of parent you have been to your child up to this point in their life that you believe the Snake Oil Salesman in Chief can change your child&#39;s beliefs &#038; values in a speech that is less than 20 minutes long.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Polimom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polimom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 19:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EEllis -- since you weren&#039;t the first perfectly reasonable person I&#039;ve seen worrying about the &quot;I Pledge&quot; video, I decided to run a whole post on the subject.  It&#039;s here (&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.chron.com/polimom/2009/09/i_pledge.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not cross-posting to TMV cuz I don&#039;t want you to feel like I&#039;m picking on you.  I&#039;m definitely not.  Yours was just the catalyst that made me finally write something about it.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EEllis &#8212; since you weren&#39;t the first perfectly reasonable person I&#39;ve seen worrying about the &#8220;I Pledge&#8221; video, I decided to run a whole post on the subject.  It&#39;s here (<a href="http://blogs.chron.com/polimom/2009/09/i_pledge.html" rel="nofollow">link</a>).</p>
<p>I&#39;m not cross-posting to TMV cuz I don&#39;t want you to feel like I&#39;m picking on you.  I&#39;m definitely not.  Yours was just the catalyst that made me finally write something about it.  </p>
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		<title>By: TheMagicalSkyFather</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMagicalSkyFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 17:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is where we are getting confused.  I sat through Bush I and Reagan speeches in school.  I suppose it just confused me and made me think this was common place and even though I actually bickered with my teacher at the time over Reagan bringing up the tax cuts I did not think he should not have done it then or now.  He was my president at the time.  I was too young to have voted but he was still my president and elections have consequences.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most of my point though was hyper-ventilating over this issue as with many others that have come up does give red meat to the right but it doe not actually help them with the middle or the soft left since then Obama(unlike prior GOP admins.) actually moderates what they were planning and comes off like calm grown ups.  I would eventually like to have two parties to choose from again but freaking out before something happens makes that side look bad if it does not go down that way.  If you want Obama to lose the best course of action is to sit back and let him overreach and fall on his face.  Instead I think the right is actually helping to hold him up though they would of course be horrified by the thought.  I do think freaking out about this before it happens is an extreme stance.  In essence it sounds like &quot;I dont trust you to not win over my child with tv waves&quot; which of course is the kind of crazy that the Dems found themselves in 30-40 years ago and still carry the label for it.  When the election happened I thought he could be the lefts Reagan swinging the country back the other way for 30 years or so until we switch course again after going too far.  Moments like this just make me more certain that this is the case.  Well that and the tax=theft thing which is as common now as the property=theft thing was in the 60&#039;s/70&#039;s.&lt;br&gt;The technology has changed the type of event that can be held but I am seeing the seeds of a future where either the left will flip out just as hard or worse when the next Repub tries it or neither party will ever again be able to speak to our children and I think that is actually a bad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is where we are getting confused.  I sat through Bush I and Reagan speeches in school.  I suppose it just confused me and made me think this was common place and even though I actually bickered with my teacher at the time over Reagan bringing up the tax cuts I did not think he should not have done it then or now.  He was my president at the time.  I was too young to have voted but he was still my president and elections have consequences.  </p>
<p>Most of my point though was hyper-ventilating over this issue as with many others that have come up does give red meat to the right but it doe not actually help them with the middle or the soft left since then Obama(unlike prior GOP admins.) actually moderates what they were planning and comes off like calm grown ups.  I would eventually like to have two parties to choose from again but freaking out before something happens makes that side look bad if it does not go down that way.  If you want Obama to lose the best course of action is to sit back and let him overreach and fall on his face.  Instead I think the right is actually helping to hold him up though they would of course be horrified by the thought.  I do think freaking out about this before it happens is an extreme stance.  In essence it sounds like &#8220;I dont trust you to not win over my child with tv waves&#8221; which of course is the kind of crazy that the Dems found themselves in 30-40 years ago and still carry the label for it.  When the election happened I thought he could be the lefts Reagan swinging the country back the other way for 30 years or so until we switch course again after going too far.  Moments like this just make me more certain that this is the case.  Well that and the tax=theft thing which is as common now as the property=theft thing was in the 60&#39;s/70&#39;s.<br />The technology has changed the type of event that can be held but I am seeing the seeds of a future where either the left will flip out just as hard or worse when the next Repub tries it or neither party will ever again be able to speak to our children and I think that is actually a bad thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Polimom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polimom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EEllis, thanks for your reply.  I&#039;m seeing this (the I Pledge commercial will be shown) popping up here and there in comment sections, but I&#039;m not finding the source anywhere for it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You probably already know that the &quot;commercial&quot; is actually a video produced in January (around inauguration time) by some &lt;em&gt;extremely&lt;/em&gt; star-struck hollywood folks swept fully up into the hope-and-change theme.  It&#039;s got nothing whatsoever to do with teh white house. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Strangely, it appears to have become merged w/ the president&#039;s Tuesday speech in some quarters -- likely because a less-than-perceptive elementary school principal in Utah showed it in an assembly on August 28th -- and michelle malkin then put that story into her hard spin about the speech.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It would be extremely inappropriate to show -- not just in the context of the speech, but to a school in general.  But nowhere (other than by malkin and a couple of comments) have I seen that obama / the white house are incorporating it -- or even that they&#039;re aware of its existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EEllis, thanks for your reply.  I&#39;m seeing this (the I Pledge commercial will be shown) popping up here and there in comment sections, but I&#39;m not finding the source anywhere for it.</p>
<p>You probably already know that the &#8220;commercial&#8221; is actually a video produced in January (around inauguration time) by some <em>extremely</em> star-struck hollywood folks swept fully up into the hope-and-change theme.  It&#39;s got nothing whatsoever to do with teh white house. </p>
<p>Strangely, it appears to have become merged w/ the president&#39;s Tuesday speech in some quarters &#8212; likely because a less-than-perceptive elementary school principal in Utah showed it in an assembly on August 28th &#8212; and michelle malkin then put that story into her hard spin about the speech.</p>
<p>It would be extremely inappropriate to show &#8212; not just in the context of the speech, but to a school in general.  But nowhere (other than by malkin and a couple of comments) have I seen that obama / the white house are incorporating it &#8212; or even that they&#39;re aware of its existence.</p>
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		<title>By: EEllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>EEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Personally I&#039;m heartened somewhat by President Obama&#039;s willingness to pull back. Even though he and his administration may use &quot;tricky language&quot; to explain it, the pull back shoes where that they can admit a mistake.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The funny thing is that if it wasn&#039;t for all the BS about how there is no problem at all, the repubs did it to, you&#039;re a racist, it&#039;s inconceivable that any rational person would ever see anything wrong in the least, ect garbage I would be bothered a lot less</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Personally I&#39;m heartened somewhat by President Obama&#39;s willingness to pull back. Even though he and his administration may use &#8220;tricky language&#8221; to explain it, the pull back shoes where that they can admit a mistake.&#8221;</p>
<p>The funny thing is that if it wasn&#39;t for all the BS about how there is no problem at all, the repubs did it to, you&#39;re a racist, it&#39;s inconceivable that any rational person would ever see anything wrong in the least, ect garbage I would be bothered a lot less</p>
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		<title>By: EEllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>EEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding is the &quot;I Pledge&quot; commercial is going to play as part of the &quot;broadcast&quot;. Now that may or may not be true and to be honest I don&#039;t know who is showing the speech so I can&#039;t answer who would be showing the commercial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding is the &#8220;I Pledge&#8221; commercial is going to play as part of the &#8220;broadcast&#8221;. Now that may or may not be true and to be honest I don&#39;t know who is showing the speech so I can&#39;t answer who would be showing the commercial.</p>
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		<title>By: EEllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>EEllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TMSF, look I don&#039;t think it&#039;s that big of a deal but if you can&#039;t understand why there is &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; issues with people then you just aren&#039;t trying. Is it really a big deal to you that some people think it should be less about Barack and more about the country?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And no there has never been this kind of event before. Also the feds have never tried to push (which is a violation of their own rules) a lesson plan based on such an event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TMSF, look I don&#39;t think it&#39;s that big of a deal but if you can&#39;t understand why there is <i>some</i> issues with people then you just aren&#39;t trying. Is it really a big deal to you that some people think it should be less about Barack and more about the country?</p>
<p>And no there has never been this kind of event before. Also the feds have never tried to push (which is a violation of their own rules) a lesson plan based on such an event.</p>
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		<title>By: mamj</title>
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		<dc:creator>mamj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget theat both Pres. Reagan and Bush 43 both gave speeches that were carried over C-Span to schools.  Reagan went off on tagent regarding how great to lower taxes it is and Bush went on about his agenda &quot;vision&quot; for the country.  Where are they with the &quot;respect the office of the President&quot; now that their party is not in the white house.  Grow up people.  We are not turning into Russia etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#39;t forget theat both Pres. Reagan and Bush 43 both gave speeches that were carried over C-Span to schools.  Reagan went off on tagent regarding how great to lower taxes it is and Bush went on about his agenda &#8220;vision&#8221; for the country.  Where are they with the &#8220;respect the office of the President&#8221; now that their party is not in the white house.  Grow up people.  We are not turning into Russia etc.</p>
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		<title>By: T_Steel</title>
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		<dc:creator>T_Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 15:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to complain about the Pledge Of Allegiance in my far, far left Black Nationalist days.  All I got out of the deal was a sore throat from all the screaming, temporary hearing loss, and countless empty magic markers.  :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The definition of a cult of personality is a country&#039;s leader uses mass media to create an idealized and heroic public image, often through unquestioning flattery and praise. If you look at that, many of our Presidents had cult of personalities created by their respective &quot;bots&quot;.  Ronald Reagan, John F. Kennedy, Dwight Eisenhower, and George Bush Jr (1st term) come to mind.  But President Obama is of a generation that is more technology savvy and &quot;in the loop&quot; so to speak.  So he presents &quot;messages&quot; utilizing all tools available.  He has set a standard that I know the Republicans will use as well (they would be foolish not to).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I will agree with you on overreaching.  Obama has folks in his administration that, in my opinion, looks at his historic election and presidency as a green light to make a &quot;historic image&quot;.  And it&#039;s not limited to his administration.  My grandparents, civil rights activists in Mississippi back in the &quot;bad times&quot;, have three big pictures on their living room wall, Jesus Christ, Martin Luther King Jr, and President Obama.  They are still stunned that he won and they are extremely emotional about it.  And there are folks in Obama&#039;s administration that know people like my grandparents exist and are going to piggyback off of that.  I don&#039;t like it one bit but it is a time-honored tradition among politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to complain about the Pledge Of Allegiance in my far, far left Black Nationalist days.  All I got out of the deal was a sore throat from all the screaming, temporary hearing loss, and countless empty magic markers.  <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The definition of a cult of personality is a country&#39;s leader uses mass media to create an idealized and heroic public image, often through unquestioning flattery and praise. If you look at that, many of our Presidents had cult of personalities created by their respective &#8220;bots&#8221;.  Ronald Reagan, John F. Kennedy, Dwight Eisenhower, and George Bush Jr (1st term) come to mind.  But President Obama is of a generation that is more technology savvy and &#8220;in the loop&#8221; so to speak.  So he presents &#8220;messages&#8221; utilizing all tools available.  He has set a standard that I know the Republicans will use as well (they would be foolish not to).</p>
<p>But I will agree with you on overreaching.  Obama has folks in his administration that, in my opinion, looks at his historic election and presidency as a green light to make a &#8220;historic image&#8221;.  And it&#39;s not limited to his administration.  My grandparents, civil rights activists in Mississippi back in the &#8220;bad times&#8221;, have three big pictures on their living room wall, Jesus Christ, Martin Luther King Jr, and President Obama.  They are still stunned that he won and they are extremely emotional about it.  And there are folks in Obama&#39;s administration that know people like my grandparents exist and are going to piggyback off of that.  I don&#39;t like it one bit but it is a time-honored tradition among politicians.</p>
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