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	<title>Comments on: Nancy and Charlie: A Love Story</title>
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		<title>By: Republicans Chide House Rep. Charles Rangel &#124; CrackedWorld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Republicans Chide House Rep. Charles Rangel &#124; CrackedWorld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] draining the swamp? What happened to the most open and ethical Congress in history? Just check with The Moderate Voice for Nazi Pelosi&#8217;s standing on the issue. Charles Rangel - Chairman of House Ways and Theives [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] draining the swamp? What happened to the most open and ethical Congress in history? Just check with The Moderate Voice for Nazi Pelosi&#8217;s standing on the issue. Charles Rangel &#8211; Chairman of House Ways and Theives [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Truth » Blog Archive &#187; Today&#8217;s Updates</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Truth » Blog Archive &#187; Today&#8217;s Updates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nancy and Charlie: A Love Story (themoderatevoice.com)     This entry was posted on Friday, September 11th, 2009 at 2:14 pm and is filed under Democrat, Fraud, Rangle, Tax Evasion, Terrorism, corruption. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nancy and Charlie: A Love Story (themoderatevoice.com)     This entry was posted on Friday, September 11th, 2009 at 2:14 pm and is filed under Democrat, Fraud, Rangle, Tax Evasion, Terrorism, corruption. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DaGoat</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45112/nancy-and-charlie-a-love-story/comment-page-1/#comment-210802</link>
		<dc:creator>DaGoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And, IMO, your &quot;Love Story&quot; title was looking for a reaction anyhow... &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It got a reaction from me - an interesting mental picture I&#039;d rather not experience again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And, IMO, your &#8220;Love Story&#8221; title was looking for a reaction anyhow&#8230; </i></p>
<p>It got a reaction from me &#8211; an interesting mental picture I&#39;d rather not experience again.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveK</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45112/nancy-and-charlie-a-love-story/comment-page-1/#comment-210790</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;T_Steel wrote: &quot;Next time I&#039;m going to put &quot;for the record&quot; gosh darn it! It&#039;s all good.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&#039;m not trying to give you a bad time T_Steel. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Had I put &quot;If the accusations against Rangel are proven true not only should he lose his chairmanship, he should lose his job and be punished to the full extent of the law&quot; in my first comment and you put &quot;For the record, I equate Libby, Cheney, and Rangel.&quot; in yours this thread may not have become so touchy (touche&#039;?) in the middle. It is all good. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>T_Steel wrote: &#8220;Next time I&#39;m going to put &#8220;for the record&#8221; gosh darn it! It&#39;s all good.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#39;m not trying to give you a bad time T_Steel. </p>
<p>Had I put &#8220;If the accusations against Rangel are proven true not only should he lose his chairmanship, he should lose his job and be punished to the full extent of the law&#8221; in my first comment and you put &#8220;For the record, I equate Libby, Cheney, and Rangel.&#8221; in yours this thread may not have become so touchy (touche&#39;?) in the middle. It is all good. <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: T_Steel</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45112/nancy-and-charlie-a-love-story/comment-page-1/#comment-210777</link>
		<dc:creator>T_Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next time I&#039;m going to put &quot;for the record&quot; gosh darn it!  It&#039;s all good.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I just got a splendid idea: a for the record in comment profiles.  A drop down list of where a person stands.  But in today&#039;s political environment, those &quot;for the records&quot; may be do slimy and incendiary to show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next time I&#39;m going to put &#8220;for the record&#8221; gosh darn it!  It&#39;s all good.</p>
<p>I just got a splendid idea: a for the record in comment profiles.  A drop down list of where a person stands.  But in today&#39;s political environment, those &#8220;for the records&#8221; may be do slimy and incendiary to show.</p>
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		<title>By: yidwithlid</title>
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		<dc:creator>yidwithlid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 21:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie Rangel shouldn&#039;t be leading Ways and Means, he should be practicing the traditional NYPD Perp Walk</description>
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		<title>By: SteveK</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45112/nancy-and-charlie-a-love-story/comment-page-1/#comment-210723</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazz maybe I overreacted to T_Steel&#039;s comment but as the Senate actually has a functioning Ethics Committee and they are looking into it it didn&#039;t sound like much of a story to me. And, IMO, your &quot;Love Story&quot; title was looking for a reaction anyhow... I&#039;d have rather left mine at two sentences.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your link to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thehill.com/homenews/campaign/57029-pelosi-will-let-rangel-hold-post-despite-new-allegations&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article at The Hill explains why I don&#039;t think it&#039;s that big a deal... yet&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;Aides cited various reasons for Pelosi holding her fire.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;First&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;u&gt;she does not want to be seen as interfering with the ethics committee probe by stepping in before it reaches a conclusion&lt;/u&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“You do not want to undermine the bipartisan ethics committee process,” said a senior Democratic aide. “Under Republican control, &lt;u&gt;the ethics panel has been broken for many years. Individuals on that committee are now committed to doing their jobs and they’re investigating all aspects&lt;/u&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“We don’t know where they are in the process,” the aide added.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;In addition&lt;/b&gt;, the &lt;u&gt;Speaker does not want to set the precedent of penalizing a colleague because of transgressions alleged in media reports&lt;/u&gt;. Rangel’s failure to disclose hundreds of thousand of dollars in assets and income, including rental income from a Harlem townhouse, were covered in recent days by The New York Times, New York Post and other publications.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“There has to be more of a standard than that,” said a second Democratic aide in reference to those reports. “She is concerned about setting a bad precedent.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Third&lt;/b&gt;, there is not an obvious successor on the powerful Ways and Means Committee, which has jurisdiction over all tax issues.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;Note: The third reason appears to be editorial comment from The Hill as there is no attribution to Pelosi or her office.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;If the accusations against Rangel are proven true not only should he lose his chairmanship, he should lose his job and be punished to the full extent of the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazz maybe I overreacted to T_Steel&#39;s comment but as the Senate actually has a functioning Ethics Committee and they are looking into it it didn&#39;t sound like much of a story to me. And, IMO, your &#8220;Love Story&#8221; title was looking for a reaction anyhow&#8230; I&#39;d have rather left mine at two sentences.</p>
<p>Your link to the <a href="http://www.thehill.com/homenews/campaign/57029-pelosi-will-let-rangel-hold-post-despite-new-allegations" rel="nofollow">article at The Hill explains why I don&#39;t think it&#39;s that big a deal&#8230; yet</a>:<br />
<blockquote>Aides cited various reasons for Pelosi holding her fire.</p>
<p><b>First</b>, <u>she does not want to be seen as interfering with the ethics committee probe by stepping in before it reaches a conclusion</u>.</p>
<p>“You do not want to undermine the bipartisan ethics committee process,” said a senior Democratic aide. “Under Republican control, <u>the ethics panel has been broken for many years. Individuals on that committee are now committed to doing their jobs and they’re investigating all aspects</u>.</p>
<p>“We don’t know where they are in the process,” the aide added.</p>
<p><b>In addition</b>, the <u>Speaker does not want to set the precedent of penalizing a colleague because of transgressions alleged in media reports</u>. Rangel’s failure to disclose hundreds of thousand of dollars in assets and income, including rental income from a Harlem townhouse, were covered in recent days by The New York Times, New York Post and other publications.</p>
<p>“There has to be more of a standard than that,” said a second Democratic aide in reference to those reports. “She is concerned about setting a bad precedent.”</p>
<p><b>Third</b>, there is not an obvious successor on the powerful Ways and Means Committee, which has jurisdiction over all tax issues.</p>
<p><i>Note: The third reason appears to be editorial comment from The Hill as there is no attribution to Pelosi or her office.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>If the accusations against Rangel are proven true not only should he lose his chairmanship, he should lose his job and be punished to the full extent of the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45112/nancy-and-charlie-a-love-story/comment-page-1/#comment-210681</link>
		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I called for Libby&#039;s hide. I called for Duke Cunningham&#039;s hide. I called for Ted Steven&#039;s hide and we never even got him on anything in court. I also bitched about Murtha. And Dollar Bill Jefferson. And now Charlie Rangel. I&#039;m not taking sides, Steve. Are you sure you aren&#039;t?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called for Libby&#39;s hide. I called for Duke Cunningham&#39;s hide. I called for Ted Steven&#39;s hide and we never even got him on anything in court. I also bitched about Murtha. And Dollar Bill Jefferson. And now Charlie Rangel. I&#39;m not taking sides, Steve. Are you sure you aren&#39;t?</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45112/nancy-and-charlie-a-love-story/comment-page-1/#comment-210660</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still like the &quot;cookie jar owner,&quot; &quot;It&#039;s so nice to see your [expected] deference, Mr. Capone&quot; photo of Charlie (&quot;I have a serious problem with pay-as-you-go&quot;) Moneybags on the earlier thread of yours, Jazz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still like the &#8220;cookie jar owner,&#8221; &#8220;It&#39;s so nice to see your [expected] deference, Mr. Capone&#8221; photo of Charlie (&#8220;I have a serious problem with pay-as-you-go&#8221;) Moneybags on the earlier thread of yours, Jazz.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45112/nancy-and-charlie-a-love-story/comment-page-1/#comment-210659</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind the childish defensiveness and worse.  Obviously the Dems have a moral problem, and obviously the Dems see nothing wrong with what they&#039;re doing, and they want to do more of the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind the childish defensiveness and worse.  Obviously the Dems have a moral problem, and obviously the Dems see nothing wrong with what they&#39;re doing, and they want to do more of the same.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45112/nancy-and-charlie-a-love-story/comment-page-1/#comment-210644</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, maybe you could try explaining why writing a story about a current scandal involving a high ranking Congressman and the complete non-reaction of the current Speaker of the House (who claimed that she&#039;d run the most ethical House ever, and has now reneged on that promise several times over) in any way would indicate that an author is acting as though this ethical lapse is the first ever of it&#039;s kind? Why would it be wrong in any way to focus on current problems?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And really, if you don&#039;t think that anyone should comment on these current problems if they aren&#039;t on record commenting on past GOP scandals (which I&#039;m not at all sure is the case for Jazz anyway- I certainly remember a slew of criticism over the Libby affair here at TMV and don&#039;t remember Jazz being a dissenter to that)...but in any case, if people here don&#039;t comment on ethical lapses of the Dems now, then won&#039;t they lack credibility by your logic in the future if the GOP retakes Congress? Won&#039;t it be just as valid for people to then say, &quot;Why are you acting as though this never happened before, and where were you when Nancy Pelosi accepted corruption among her party leaders?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, maybe you could try explaining why writing a story about a current scandal involving a high ranking Congressman and the complete non-reaction of the current Speaker of the House (who claimed that she&#39;d run the most ethical House ever, and has now reneged on that promise several times over) in any way would indicate that an author is acting as though this ethical lapse is the first ever of it&#39;s kind? Why would it be wrong in any way to focus on current problems?</p>
<p>And really, if you don&#39;t think that anyone should comment on these current problems if they aren&#39;t on record commenting on past GOP scandals (which I&#39;m not at all sure is the case for Jazz anyway- I certainly remember a slew of criticism over the Libby affair here at TMV and don&#39;t remember Jazz being a dissenter to that)&#8230;but in any case, if people here don&#39;t comment on ethical lapses of the Dems now, then won&#39;t they lack credibility by your logic in the future if the GOP retakes Congress? Won&#39;t it be just as valid for people to then say, &#8220;Why are you acting as though this never happened before, and where were you when Nancy Pelosi accepted corruption among her party leaders?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: T_Steel</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45112/nancy-and-charlie-a-love-story/comment-page-1/#comment-210610</link>
		<dc:creator>T_Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya know SteveK, do you have proof that I didn&#039;t care about the slimy Bush/Cheney/Libby thing?  Why do you have to do that man?!  I&#039;m talking about today&#039;s issue but you have a litmus test to see if I&#039;m down with the Bush smackdown.  Not going to play that game with ya friend.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No this isn&#039;t the first time this has happened.  But it stinks EVERY DAMN TIME IT DOES.  So now we have Rangel and Pelosi.  Not Bush/Cheney/Libby.  And it stinks.  So I&#039;m saying it stinks.  &#039;Nuff said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya know SteveK, do you have proof that I didn&#39;t care about the slimy Bush/Cheney/Libby thing?  Why do you have to do that man?!  I&#39;m talking about today&#39;s issue but you have a litmus test to see if I&#39;m down with the Bush smackdown.  Not going to play that game with ya friend.</p>
<p>No this isn&#39;t the first time this has happened.  But it stinks EVERY DAMN TIME IT DOES.  So now we have Rangel and Pelosi.  Not Bush/Cheney/Libby.  And it stinks.  So I&#39;m saying it stinks.  &#39;Nuff said.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveK</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45112/nancy-and-charlie-a-love-story/comment-page-1/#comment-210606</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;T_Steel wrote: &quot;Speaker Pelosi needs to (like yesterday) ask/demand Rangel to step down from is Ways And Means post. No ifs, ands, or buts.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;George W. Bush and/or Dick Cheney needed to (like yesterday) ask/demand Scooter Libby to step down, too, and that was my point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jazz IMO (and now you) are acting as this is the first time a thing like this has ever happened. Where was he (were you) when much higher level shenanigans were going on? That was my point AND it was directed to &quot;the substance of Jazz&#039;s article&quot;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your jumping all over me and my comment says more about you and where you are coming from than it does about me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>T_Steel wrote: &#8220;Speaker Pelosi needs to (like yesterday) ask/demand Rangel to step down from is Ways And Means post. No ifs, ands, or buts.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>George W. Bush and/or Dick Cheney needed to (like yesterday) ask/demand Scooter Libby to step down, too, and that was my point.</p>
<p>Jazz IMO (and now you) are acting as this is the first time a thing like this has ever happened. Where was he (were you) when much higher level shenanigans were going on? That was my point AND it was directed to &#8220;the substance of Jazz&#39;s article&#8221;. </p>
<p>Your jumping all over me and my comment says more about you and where you are coming from than it does about me.</p>
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		<title>By: T_Steel</title>
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		<dc:creator>T_Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SteveK, the title &quot;Nancy and Charlie: A Love Story&quot; is hardly derogatory (humorous actually).  And why don&#039;t you talk about the substance of Jazz&#039;s article please?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Speaker Pelosi needs to (like yesterday) ask/demand Rangel to step down from is Ways And Means post.  No ifs, ands, or buts.  Then you can resume &quot;blasting Republicans for hypocrisy&quot; somewhat.  Damn right it looks like a love story because she is showing too much &quot;luv&quot; in her handling of this situation.  There&#039;s more than enough debris around Rangel to warrant a step down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SteveK, the title &#8220;Nancy and Charlie: A Love Story&#8221; is hardly derogatory (humorous actually).  And why don&#39;t you talk about the substance of Jazz&#39;s article please?</p>
<p>Speaker Pelosi needs to (like yesterday) ask/demand Rangel to step down from is Ways And Means post.  No ifs, ands, or buts.  Then you can resume &#8220;blasting Republicans for hypocrisy&#8221; somewhat.  Damn right it looks like a love story because she is showing too much &#8220;luv&#8221; in her handling of this situation.  There&#39;s more than enough debris around Rangel to warrant a step down.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveK</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45112/nancy-and-charlie-a-love-story/comment-page-1/#comment-210581</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s appears Jazz thinks we&#039;re facing a new (but much lower level) George Bush / Dick Cheney / Scooter Libby crisis... Oh my!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;UPDATE: Maybe if a clever blogger had called the Libby affair the &quot;George and Dick and Scooter Love Story&quot; it would have been resolved sooner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s appears Jazz thinks we&#39;re facing a new (but much lower level) George Bush / Dick Cheney / Scooter Libby crisis&#8230; Oh my!</p>
<p>UPDATE: Maybe if a clever blogger had called the Libby affair the &#8220;George and Dick and Scooter Love Story&#8221; it would have been resolved sooner.</p>
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