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	<title>Comments on: How Much Per Car Did &#8220;Cash For Clunkers&#8221; Really Cost?</title>
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		<title>By: adelinesdad</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45035/how-much-per-car-did-cash-for-clunkers-really-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-210903</link>
		<dc:creator>adelinesdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 04:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether it is considered a success or not, I don&#039;t see how you can justify taking money from people who don&#039;t want to (or can&#039;t) buy cars, in order to give it to people who do want to buy cars.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I get it.  We&#039;re in a recession.  Drastic times call for drastic measures, etc.  But why should I be punished if I don&#039;t want a new car--or if I already own a fuel efficient car?  Too many people are ignoring the fact that there&#039;s no such thing as free money.  It comes from somewhere.  Or, to put it more accurately, it comes from someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether it is considered a success or not, I don&#39;t see how you can justify taking money from people who don&#39;t want to (or can&#39;t) buy cars, in order to give it to people who do want to buy cars.</p>
<p>I get it.  We&#39;re in a recession.  Drastic times call for drastic measures, etc.  But why should I be punished if I don&#39;t want a new car&#8211;or if I already own a fuel efficient car?  Too many people are ignoring the fact that there&#39;s no such thing as free money.  It comes from somewhere.  Or, to put it more accurately, it comes from someone.</p>
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		<title>By: mikkel</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/45035/how-much-per-car-did-cash-for-clunkers-really-cost/comment-page-1/#comment-210462</link>
		<dc:creator>mikkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah at this point I find it hard to say that the program was negative...the entire program really won&#039;t be able to be analyzed for about 6 months. Critics argue that all it did was push demand forward, which may be true but is beneficial if it helps jumpstart parts of the economy. If it doesn&#039;t -- well no one will be talking about it because there will be bigger problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah at this point I find it hard to say that the program was negative&#8230;the entire program really won&#39;t be able to be analyzed for about 6 months. Critics argue that all it did was push demand forward, which may be true but is beneficial if it helps jumpstart parts of the economy. If it doesn&#39;t &#8212; well no one will be talking about it because there will be bigger problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Father_Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father_Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Cash for Clunkers, how much can we get for George Will?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Cash for Clunkers, how much can we get for George Will?</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An article in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/2226156/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Slate&lt;/a&gt; last week made this claim:   &lt;blockquote&gt;Cash for Clunkers, by contrast, has had a much bigger impact. According to Paul Taylor, chief economist at the National Automobile Dealers Association, the average new car sold in the United States so far this year has cost $29,106. Those 625,000 cars sold through Cash for Clunkers, then, probably account for about $18.2 billion of retail sales. They&#039;ve also spurred a lot of secondary economic activity—taxes paid, dealership advertising, overtime wages for dealership employees.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And:    &lt;blockquote&gt;If we use Taylor&#039;s estimate, about 250,000 extra cars were purchased (40 percent of 625,000). And if each cost $29,000, those sales generated about $7.3 billion in revenue in the space of a few weeks. That&#039;s a pretty good return on $2.6 billion in government spending. Let&#039;s be more conservative. Say only 20 percent of the clunker traders were extra demand, and the cars they bought cost $25,000 each. That&#039;s still an extra $3.125 billion in sales for dealers. What&#039;s more, the sales represent only a portion of the economic impact. Ford, for example, announced that it is increasing production of some models. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/08/new-hampshire-clunker-state.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Calculated Risk&lt;/a&gt; ran the numbers differently last week, dollars-per-person-per-state. (Link includes a sortable chart.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An article in <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2226156/" rel="nofollow">Slate</a> last week made this claim:<br />
<blockquote>Cash for Clunkers, by contrast, has had a much bigger impact. According to Paul Taylor, chief economist at the National Automobile Dealers Association, the average new car sold in the United States so far this year has cost $29,106. Those 625,000 cars sold through Cash for Clunkers, then, probably account for about $18.2 billion of retail sales. They&#39;ve also spurred a lot of secondary economic activity—taxes paid, dealership advertising, overtime wages for dealership employees.</p></blockquote>
<p>And:<br />
<blockquote>If we use Taylor&#39;s estimate, about 250,000 extra cars were purchased (40 percent of 625,000). And if each cost $29,000, those sales generated about $7.3 billion in revenue in the space of a few weeks. That&#39;s a pretty good return on $2.6 billion in government spending. Let&#39;s be more conservative. Say only 20 percent of the clunker traders were extra demand, and the cars they bought cost $25,000 each. That&#39;s still an extra $3.125 billion in sales for dealers. What&#39;s more, the sales represent only a portion of the economic impact. Ford, for example, announced that it is increasing production of some models. </p></blockquote>
<p>Also, <a href="http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/08/new-hampshire-clunker-state.html" rel="nofollow">Calculated Risk</a> ran the numbers differently last week, dollars-per-person-per-state. (Link includes a sortable chart.)</p>
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