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	<title>Comments on: Joe Lieberman&#8217;s Case Against Healthcare Reform</title>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/44245/joe-liebermans-case-against-healthcare-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-208616</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the kids can joke, the adults continue to be concerned.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Now we&#039;re up to $1.6 T so far.  Quick, everyone look back at Bush &#039;n&#039; Cheney &#039;n&#039; torture, instead!)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=a_YN2A6Y3bi4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ah, and look here -- the Little Green Fascists haven&#039;t agreed on all their poor plan&#039;s details yet.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-GreenBusiness/idUSTRE57O5MO20090825&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-GreenBusines...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the kids can joke, the adults continue to be concerned.</p>
<p>(Now we&#39;re up to $1.6 T so far.  Quick, everyone look back at Bush &#39;n&#39; Cheney &#39;n&#39; torture, instead!)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&#038;sid=a_YN2A6Y3bi4" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&#8230;</a></p>
<p>Ah, and look here &#8212; the Little Green Fascists haven&#39;t agreed on all their poor plan&#39;s details yet.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-GreenBusiness/idUSTRE57O5MO20090825" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-GreenBusines&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/44245/joe-liebermans-case-against-healthcare-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-208400</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have 9 Trillion Reasons Health Care May Be Dead, at least in the form of the Democratic plans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have 9 Trillion Reasons Health Care May Be Dead, at least in the form of the Democratic plans.</p>
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		<title>By: Davebo</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/44245/joe-liebermans-case-against-healthcare-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-208355</link>
		<dc:creator>Davebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 02:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS says:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;He&#039;s just being a sane Democrat. &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Right, just like those sane Democrats who decided we should give it a hundred years or so before we actually enforced the Emancipation Proclamation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In fact, the Civil Rights Act was a sweeping and incredibly landmark change in our policy from what, 1963 to 1965 and only 100 years or so in the making.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How could I have guessed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLS says:</p>
<p>&#8220;He&#39;s just being a sane Democrat. &#8220;</p>
<p>Right, just like those sane Democrats who decided we should give it a hundred years or so before we actually enforced the Emancipation Proclamation.</p>
<p>In fact, the Civil Rights Act was a sweeping and incredibly landmark change in our policy from what, 1963 to 1965 and only 100 years or so in the making.</p>
<p>How could I have guessed?</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/44245/joe-liebermans-case-against-healthcare-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-208345</link>
		<dc:creator>StockBoySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe L: &quot;Morally, everyone of us would like to cover every American with health insurance but that&#039;s where you spend most of the trillion dollars plus, or a little less that is estimated.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, Joe.  We know your morals have a price tag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe L: &#8220;Morally, everyone of us would like to cover every American with health insurance but that&#39;s where you spend most of the trillion dollars plus, or a little less that is estimated.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, Joe.  We know your morals have a price tag.</p>
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		<title>By: Father_Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father_Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe who?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe who?</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/44245/joe-liebermans-case-against-healthcare-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-208271</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s just being a sane Democrat.  The current effort is ridiculously rushed, of course, and is as sloppy when not pathological as the other things the Dems have increasingly badly done, only the worst so far.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Aside from the poor quality of the Dems&#039; conduct and legislation and underlying goals --&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obviously the health care effort and anything else that is costly should have waited for economic recovery.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But intelligence is in short supply where it counts, even though Lieberman is trying to reinject it as a Dem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#39;s just being a sane Democrat.  The current effort is ridiculously rushed, of course, and is as sloppy when not pathological as the other things the Dems have increasingly badly done, only the worst so far.</p>
<p>Aside from the poor quality of the Dems&#39; conduct and legislation and underlying goals &#8211;</p>
<p>Obviously the health care effort and anything else that is costly should have waited for economic recovery.</p>
<p>But intelligence is in short supply where it counts, even though Lieberman is trying to reinject it as a Dem.</p>
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		<title>By: Frith_Ra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frith_Ra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does not. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He&#039;s essentially saying: &quot;Let&#039;s put it on the back burner until all of our other problems go away.&quot; Which problems are going away by having a large, &amp; growing, segment of society be disease vectors for the rest of us? Which health care issue is going to be solved by letting more &amp; more of the poorer end of the financial spectrum get government supported health care in our public hospitals &amp; emergency rooms? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I care about people, I have several members of my family who are currently uninsured, I have many friends who are likewise, uninsured. I work part-time at a county hospital. It would be full time, but there are more patients than money &amp; I see people who are dying who would be active &amp; contributing members of our society if they would have been able to have seen a doctor when the first symptoms cropped up. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp; can someone please tell me what benefit that the insurers do society which a single payer plan couldn&#039;t do better? Joe Lieberman can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does not. </p>
<p>He&#39;s essentially saying: &#8220;Let&#39;s put it on the back burner until all of our other problems go away.&#8221; Which problems are going away by having a large, &#038; growing, segment of society be disease vectors for the rest of us? Which health care issue is going to be solved by letting more &#038; more of the poorer end of the financial spectrum get government supported health care in our public hospitals &#038; emergency rooms? </p>
<p>I care about people, I have several members of my family who are currently uninsured, I have many friends who are likewise, uninsured. I work part-time at a county hospital. It would be full time, but there are more patients than money &#038; I see people who are dying who would be active &#038; contributing members of our society if they would have been able to have seen a doctor when the first symptoms cropped up. </p>
<p>&#038; can someone please tell me what benefit that the insurers do society which a single payer plan couldn&#39;t do better? Joe Lieberman can&#39;t.</p>
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