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		<title>By: Clinton criticizes Bush handling of Afghan conflict &#124; Photos Of Food</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clinton criticizes Bush handling of Afghan conflict &#124; Photos Of Food</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Twitter Trackbacks for Avoiding Defeat in Afghanistan &#124; The Moderate Voice [themoderatevoice.com] on Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitter Trackbacks for Avoiding Defeat in Afghanistan &#124; The Moderate Voice [themoderatevoice.com] on Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Avoiding Defeat in Afghanistan &#124; The Moderate Voice  themoderatevoice.com/44207/avoiding-defeat-in-afghanistan &#8211; view page &#8211; cached  Guest post by Peter S. Henne Peter S. Henne is a Security Fellow with the Truman National Security Project and a doctoral candidate at Georgetown &#8212; From the page [...]</description>
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		<title>By: shannonlee</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/44207/avoiding-defeat-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-208240</link>
		<dc:creator>shannonlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Maybe in large urban areas where people hardly know each other the issue was forgotten, but at least in the small corner of the nation it was not.&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is that a direct quote from Sarah Palin? ;)  Kinda of a culture war remark if you ask me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway...you would be surprised to know that even urban people like myself, have family serving in Afghanistan.  I even have German friends over there.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So not all of us forgot.  And even some of us fully support our efforts over there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe in large urban areas where people hardly know each other the issue was forgotten, but at least in the small corner of the nation it was not.&#8221; </p>
<p>Is that a direct quote from Sarah Palin? <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   Kinda of a culture war remark if you ask me.</p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;you would be surprised to know that even urban people like myself, have family serving in Afghanistan.  I even have German friends over there.  </p>
<p>So not all of us forgot.  And even some of us fully support our efforts over there.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; As a country, it left our conscious. Yes, we were there, but people weren&#039;t talking about it.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe so but not everyone got distracted.  I live in a small town and we have soldiers there, we did not allow it to leave our consciousness.  When we saw the mothers, wives and children of our veterans serving over there we were constantly reminded.  Maybe in large urban areas where people hardly know each other the issue was forgotten, but at least in the small corner of the nation it was not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; As a country, it left our conscious. Yes, we were there, but people weren&#39;t talking about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe so but not everyone got distracted.  I live in a small town and we have soldiers there, we did not allow it to leave our consciousness.  When we saw the mothers, wives and children of our veterans serving over there we were constantly reminded.  Maybe in large urban areas where people hardly know each other the issue was forgotten, but at least in the small corner of the nation it was not.</p>
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		<title>By: shannonlee</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/44207/avoiding-defeat-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-208206</link>
		<dc:creator>shannonlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a country, it left our conscious.  Yes, we were there, but people weren&#039;t talking about it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, stuff like this doesn&#039;t help:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;I think it is serious and it is deteriorating, and I&#039;ve said that over the past couple of years -- that the Taliban insurgency has gotten better, more sophisticated,&quot; said Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is the truth and needs to be said, but it surely doesn&#039;t help opinion polls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a country, it left our conscious.  Yes, we were there, but people weren&#39;t talking about it.</p>
<p>Also, stuff like this doesn&#39;t help:</p>
<p>&#8220;I think it is serious and it is deteriorating, and I&#39;ve said that over the past couple of years &#8212; that the Taliban insurgency has gotten better, more sophisticated,&#8221; said Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff.</p>
<p>It is the truth and needs to be said, but it surely doesn&#39;t help opinion polls.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/44207/avoiding-defeat-in-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-208203</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; we go right back into Afghanistan &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;no we don&#039;t we never left it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> we go right back into Afghanistan<br />
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<p>no we don&#39;t we never left it.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: shannonlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>shannonlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think most Americans are going through war fatigue.  First it was Afghanistan, and a very large percentage of Americas were behind it.  Then we went into Iraq and have been reminded every day about the horrors of that war.  Now that we are about to get out of Iraq, we go right back into Afghanistan...into a war that most Americans don&#039;t understand how we win...or what winning really means.  We hear about the war...hear the bickering between politicians over the war...hear about how much it costs...how many die...ect...It just feels like one long horrible war.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is no wonder that support is starting to dwindle, especially on the left.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is a certain portion of the left that Obama will never get...they simply do not support war in almost any form...your code pinker types.  Then you have others that see the war effort as a detriment to other policies...say health care.  You also have others that simply do not want anything that W started, to turn out well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama is going to have to rely on his liberal allies and Republicans.  I don&#039;t think he is going to win a lot of support from his typical base on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most Americans are going through war fatigue.  First it was Afghanistan, and a very large percentage of Americas were behind it.  Then we went into Iraq and have been reminded every day about the horrors of that war.  Now that we are about to get out of Iraq, we go right back into Afghanistan&#8230;into a war that most Americans don&#39;t understand how we win&#8230;or what winning really means.  We hear about the war&#8230;hear the bickering between politicians over the war&#8230;hear about how much it costs&#8230;how many die&#8230;ect&#8230;It just feels like one long horrible war.</p>
<p>It is no wonder that support is starting to dwindle, especially on the left.</p>
<p>There is a certain portion of the left that Obama will never get&#8230;they simply do not support war in almost any form&#8230;your code pinker types.  Then you have others that see the war effort as a detriment to other policies&#8230;say health care.  You also have others that simply do not want anything that W started, to turn out well.</p>
<p>Obama is going to have to rely on his liberal allies and Republicans.  I don&#39;t think he is going to win a lot of support from his typical base on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is between a rock and a hard place on Afganistan.  I do not envy his position and do not blame him for being in it, anyone who took over the office would have a difficult time on this issue.  The only blame that he deserves is not devoting enough time to it thus far, not a critical glaring error at the moment, but one that will appear if he doesn&#039;t rectify the situation before too long. Not having appointed an Army Secretary yet, doesn&#039;t help this any.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama actually has it tougher than John McCain would have (and not just due to having less Foreign Policy experience), since Obama is up against the progressives to a significant extent on this issue.  He can probably count on blue dog and conservative support (although he needs to make sure he keeps an eye on wastes in spending which will be a valid criticism) but the liberal wing of his own Party is becoming more and more problematic for his agenda despite all the catering he has done to their interests with the Stimulas, the Omnibus Appropriations bill, and the climate change legislation all greatly increasing the deficit during a time of economic hardship which many moderates in his own party cringed at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is between a rock and a hard place on Afganistan.  I do not envy his position and do not blame him for being in it, anyone who took over the office would have a difficult time on this issue.  The only blame that he deserves is not devoting enough time to it thus far, not a critical glaring error at the moment, but one that will appear if he doesn&#39;t rectify the situation before too long. Not having appointed an Army Secretary yet, doesn&#39;t help this any.</p>
<p>Obama actually has it tougher than John McCain would have (and not just due to having less Foreign Policy experience), since Obama is up against the progressives to a significant extent on this issue.  He can probably count on blue dog and conservative support (although he needs to make sure he keeps an eye on wastes in spending which will be a valid criticism) but the liberal wing of his own Party is becoming more and more problematic for his agenda despite all the catering he has done to their interests with the Stimulas, the Omnibus Appropriations bill, and the climate change legislation all greatly increasing the deficit during a time of economic hardship which many moderates in his own party cringed at.</p>
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		<title>By: Avoiding Defeat in Afghanistan &#124; The Moderate Voice &#124; Afghanistan Today</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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