[and see nothing wrong with "crusader" liberal journalism, where even pesky facts "may" be neglected in order to get the "right" important "message" to people]

“dislike them when they question it.”

This is also true routinely in academia and in government, for similar reasons, but many can't or won't concede the obvious. (It gets in the way of the “message”…)

True, among the intelligent, even though the excited leftist Herd is so devoid of intelligence.

It's the same with “if you like your doctor” or “if you like your insurance.” What's obviously left out, among other things, is the bigger if, which is “if you still have, or still can keep, your doctor,” the same with insurance, etc., after Change [tm] has infused health care.

I have noticed the “plethora” of “seminar commenters” such as the one who says:

“Oh please. You like “journalists” when they reinforce the liberal party line, dislike them when they question it.” and immeiately bashes Walter Cronkite because he questioned the Vietnam War.

As they did under the Bush administration and let him happily march our nation into a disastrous war, based on nothing but lies…

During the few months there have been a plethora of new people turning up at TMV solely to push the lies and misleading sidebars that are the heart of the Anti-Health Care position.

Someone last week tried to pass off as research a 'document' by the very people that lied us into the War in Iraq… the PNAC wrecking crew aka The American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research.

Haven't Dick (and daughter Lynne) Cheney, John Bolton, Newt Gingrich, Paul Wolfowitz, David Frum, Kevin Hassett, Frederick W. Kagan, Leon Kass, Irving (and son “Bloody” Bill) Kristol, Charles Murray, Michael Novak, Norman J. Ornstein, Richard Perle done enough damage already? These people are sociopaths and liars that having us time after time that they are not to be believed… It appears that the anti-health care reformers think not.

And now you long for more of the same with ObamaCare. How dare the media give a reasonable hearing to the critics? You want “truth”, explain how Obama is permitted to repeatedly claim savings when such claims have been debunked as false by the CBO. Sure, sometimes that is mentioned, but most articles have not pointed it out as the “truth”, just another point of view. Then we have the “death panels” that the ObamaCare Sales Force is so outraged about. Yet we are greeted with the conundrum that no such language was ever in the bill and furthermore it has been taken out. Maybe she used a little hyperbole, but this is politics, and she struck some core values of great interest to the American people.

It is not up to the overwhelmingly liberal media to arbitrate “truth” but report the news. A few are finally waking up to that responsibility after selling Obama to us like a new car for a solid year. It's about time.

It's a strange kind of abused-spouse dynamic. The current system mangles them worse than any other system in the world, but when some people try to explain that the current beau is completely insane and that this fellow from the government would be a much better choice, the possessive husband basically tells his spouse “No baby! He'll hit you (just like I do) but, even worse, he'll hit you in an un-American way! You don't want to upset daddy Reagan, now do you?”

You can't criticize the hypothetical government option without also criticizing the current system. That hypocrisy bothers me.

Don't understand your comment. Perhaps you can send me an e-mail.

Just take a deep breath and remind yourself that some people have unresolved issues.

I wonder what your B,S. meter tells you about the following styatement in the Op-Ed by Gabler:

“It was Cronkite who visited Vietnam and declared it a stalemate when nearly everyone else in the news media was gung-ho.”

Just curious

You don't mince words.

Thanks for the info.

Dorian

Please, if you write anything about any “news” mediums, then write about exactly who owns that “news” medium.

You read the LA Times, who owns it? That is the first damn question that you should ask. Don't quote without noting exactly who controls the “news” medium and I guaranfuckingt you that it is not some “liberal.” It is Sam fucking Zell. If you don't know then assume that the owner is a right wing rich asshole.

That is high school journalism and I should not have to point it out to you.

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