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		<title>By: HuffPo Suggests Anti ObamaCare Doctors Will Harm Patients &#124; linkthe.com</title>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Suckers are meant to be taken.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s a huge mistake to believe the rest of us in the USA are like the Obama Town Hall audiences.  [gag]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Suckers are meant to be taken.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#39;s a huge mistake to believe the rest of us in the USA are like the Obama Town Hall audiences.  [gag]</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;why don&#039;t they pool their own money to solve the problem without stealing from other taxpayers?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Or from Medicare, which already is a large part of the &quot;problem&quot; of &quot;fear&quot; of seniors (along with obvious threats of future curtailment or denial of care as decided by others)?  Or from private insurers who remain allowed to exist but which can expect to be the object of cost-shifting (guess which way) in ObamaCare?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;why don&#39;t they pool their own money to solve the problem without stealing from other taxpayers?&#8221;</p>
<p>Or from Medicare, which already is a large part of the &#8220;problem&#8221; of &#8220;fear&#8221; of seniors (along with obvious threats of future curtailment or denial of care as decided by others)?  Or from private insurers who remain allowed to exist but which can expect to be the object of cost-shifting (guess which way) in ObamaCare?</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazz, I was aware of this for quite a while, and I shorted at Obama&#039;s campaign circus rhetoric with its deliberately included (shhh) omission:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;If you like your doctor...&quot;  &quot;If you&#039;re happy with your health care ...&quot;  &quot;you can keep it.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is, if it you still have it after ObamaCare takes effect, which in many cases is unlikely!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But never mind the details like that.  Continue to be starry- or dewy-eyed and good little suckers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazz, I was aware of this for quite a while, and I shorted at Obama&#39;s campaign circus rhetoric with its deliberately included (shhh) omission:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you like your doctor&#8230;&#8221;  &#8220;If you&#39;re happy with your health care &#8230;&#8221;  &#8220;you can keep it.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is, if it you still have it after ObamaCare takes effect, which in many cases is unlikely!</p>
<p>But never mind the details like that.  Continue to be starry- or dewy-eyed and good little suckers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leo- your last comment should have gone to ChrisWWW, not me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;@ChrisWWW, on your last comment:&lt;br&gt;Once again the blame is on the Republicans. The Dems can&#039;t possibly speak the truth because all of the people with mean signs outside the healthcare townhalls are confusing people. Um...OK.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Have you ever stopped to consider that some of the hyperbole and fearmongering might actually be LESS effective if the Dems weren&#039;t obviously distorting what&#039;s in the bill and what the likely effects of it will be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leo- your last comment should have gone to ChrisWWW, not me.</p>
<p>@ChrisWWW, on your last comment:<br />Once again the blame is on the Republicans. The Dems can&#39;t possibly speak the truth because all of the people with mean signs outside the healthcare townhalls are confusing people. Um&#8230;OK.</p>
<p>Have you ever stopped to consider that some of the hyperbole and fearmongering might actually be LESS effective if the Dems weren&#39;t obviously distorting what&#39;s in the bill and what the likely effects of it will be?</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CStanley&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; Leonidas,&lt;br&gt;So... your answer is for George Soros to start a large charity, or force people to join the military. Nice. Why don&#039;t we just send them if neither of those options work out? They&#039;ll get free housing and medical care. Perfect right?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well if the Liberal activist are so concerned why don&#039;t they pool their own money to solve the problem without stealing from other taxpayers?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the military option, its just that an option, some have taken it others have not, they have an option its their choice to make, get healthcare for serving the society or not.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Seriously though, many people in this country -- especially now -- have lost their jobs through no fault of their own. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Agreed, and bringing down healthcare costs is something we should be addressing.  No one disagrees with that on either side of the discussion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Using taxes on the wealthy, who have reaped nearly all the monetary gains from our people&#039;s rising productivity, to help the unfortunate poor go to doctors is the fair and moral thing to do. WWJD?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ahh those EVIL RICH BASTARDS , who the top 1% of just happen to pay more income taxes than the lower 95% of taxpayers. These guys fund your kids getting an education in public schools, finance the roads you drive on, pay for the military that protects you, etc.  Damn EVIL BASTARDS, how dare they</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CStanley</p>
<blockquote><p> Leonidas,<br />So&#8230; your answer is for George Soros to start a large charity, or force people to join the military. Nice. Why don&#39;t we just send them if neither of those options work out? They&#39;ll get free housing and medical care. Perfect right?</p></blockquote>
<p>Well if the Liberal activist are so concerned why don&#39;t they pool their own money to solve the problem without stealing from other taxpayers?  </p>
<p>As for the military option, its just that an option, some have taken it others have not, they have an option its their choice to make, get healthcare for serving the society or not.</p>
<blockquote><p>Seriously though, many people in this country &#8212; especially now &#8212; have lost their jobs through no fault of their own. </p></blockquote>
<p>Agreed, and bringing down healthcare costs is something we should be addressing.  No one disagrees with that on either side of the discussion.</p>
<blockquote><p>Using taxes on the wealthy, who have reaped nearly all the monetary gains from our people&#39;s rising productivity, to help the unfortunate poor go to doctors is the fair and moral thing to do. WWJD?</p></blockquote>
<p>Ahh those EVIL RICH BASTARDS , who the top 1% of just happen to pay more income taxes than the lower 95% of taxpayers. These guys fund your kids getting an education in public schools, finance the roads you drive on, pay for the military that protects you, etc.  Damn EVIL BASTARDS, how dare they</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CStanley,&lt;br&gt;You&#039;re right that he shouldn&#039;t promise people will be able to stay on their current insurance in perpetuity. You&#039;re employer and insurance company can&#039;t even promise that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But nor should he say that people will lose their current insurance, because they won&#039;t for quite some time. I&#039;m not sure how you explain the nuance without Republican a**holes crying wolf about everything losing their insurance and the country turning into the USSR w/ 5 year plans and death panels and on and on and on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CStanley,<br />You&#39;re right that he shouldn&#39;t promise people will be able to stay on their current insurance in perpetuity. You&#39;re employer and insurance company can&#39;t even promise that.</p>
<p>But nor should he say that people will lose their current insurance, because they won&#39;t for quite some time. I&#39;m not sure how you explain the nuance without Republican a**holes crying wolf about everything losing their insurance and the country turning into the USSR w/ 5 year plans and death panels and on and on and on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, the question is, even if you believe that this plan is the only way to go, is it right to sell it under false pretenses? The plan is either written in such a way that the likely outcome is all people having the ability to keep their current plans if they wish to do so, or it isn&#039;t. The factcheck articles are analyzing the bill and saying that Obama&#039;s claims of reassurance on that point are not exactly true.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If GWB sincerely believed that deposing Saddam was important to acheive other goals, was it OK for him to tell the American people that we had to do it because of the threat of WMD&#039;s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, the question is, even if you believe that this plan is the only way to go, is it right to sell it under false pretenses? The plan is either written in such a way that the likely outcome is all people having the ability to keep their current plans if they wish to do so, or it isn&#39;t. The factcheck articles are analyzing the bill and saying that Obama&#39;s claims of reassurance on that point are not exactly true.</p>
<p>If GWB sincerely believed that deposing Saddam was important to acheive other goals, was it OK for him to tell the American people that we had to do it because of the threat of WMD&#39;s?</p>
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