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		<title>By: Guest posting on The Moderate Voice &#171; Wellsy&#8217;s World</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest posting on The Moderate Voice &#171; Wellsy&#8217;s World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/44019/mixed-messages-being-sent-on-public-option-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-207643</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 00:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soo hows that single-payer universal coverage system Medicare doing right now.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soo hows that single-payer universal coverage system Medicare doing right now&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: shannonlee</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/44019/mixed-messages-being-sent-on-public-option-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-207610</link>
		<dc:creator>shannonlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The SurvUsa poll was done with NBC.  What the polls shows is that people would like a choice.  I don&#039;t see why any Republican would not like a choice...I thought the freedom to choose is something Reps strongly believe in.  The word &quot;choice&quot; is a very important part of that question.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As I noted before...the rest of the civilized world offers a public option.  Both private and public options are able to fairly compete in other parts of the world.  And most importantly....countries that have the public option are not running the kind of national debt totals that we are.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Apparently, you have a public health care option and not run your debt into the trillions.  Well, EU countries can...apparently Reps think we cannot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The SurvUsa poll was done with NBC.  What the polls shows is that people would like a choice.  I don&#39;t see why any Republican would not like a choice&#8230;I thought the freedom to choose is something Reps strongly believe in.  The word &#8220;choice&#8221; is a very important part of that question.</p>
<p>As I noted before&#8230;the rest of the civilized world offers a public option.  Both private and public options are able to fairly compete in other parts of the world.  And most importantly&#8230;.countries that have the public option are not running the kind of national debt totals that we are.</p>
<p>Apparently, you have a public health care option and not run your debt into the trillions.  Well, EU countries can&#8230;apparently Reps think we cannot.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/44019/mixed-messages-being-sent-on-public-option-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-207608</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ DLS&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot; Choosing Maxine Waters as one &quot;defender&quot; of this idiocy was a real laugh.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;you got that right she is dumber than a plant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ DLS</p>
<p>&#8221; Choosing Maxine Waters as one &#8220;defender&#8221; of this idiocy was a real laugh.&#8221;</p>
<p>you got that right she is dumber than a plant.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/44019/mixed-messages-being-sent-on-public-option-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-207547</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think the message is about to get a lot clearer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama to raise 10-year deficit to $9 trillion&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Response:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;We inherited an enormous deficit from BUSH&quot; [which we already have dwarfed]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Bush and Cheney ... Terrorist alert level ... Iraq ... torture ...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think the message is about to get a lot clearer.</p>
<p>Obama to raise 10-year deficit to $9 trillion&#8221;</p>
<p>Response:</p>
<p>&#8220;We inherited an enormous deficit from BUSH&#8221; [which we already have dwarfed]</p>
<p>&#8220;Bush and Cheney &#8230; Terrorist alert level &#8230; Iraq &#8230; torture &#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/44019/mixed-messages-being-sent-on-public-option-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-207545</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think the message is about to get a lot clearer.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To me the real question is if, as the bad news builds and the Dems fracture as well as flounder more and more from their missteps, eventually even the lib Dems as well as the Blue Dogs get their heads out of their asses and say that they must:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;a) Stop;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;b) Start thinking about what they really want to do;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;c) Restart from the beginning, trying to be sane and sensible, for a change, this year.  No more rushing, no more stupidity, no more idiotic extremist flirting and related destructive legislation and nonsense.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You know, maybe they&#039;ll stop being stupid (and expecting us stupidly to accept and support them) and actually try to be truly purposeful and intelligent in deciding what they want to do and how to do it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It doesn&#039;t even require them to reform themselves to the point where they listen to and work with the GOP.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It doesn&#039;t even require them to do what they should do to reassure better people, to admit they have been wrong in what they have sought, and more in how they&#039;ve sought it and otherwise behaved, increasingly, since the start of this year.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That would be expecting too much of them, anyway.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even their merely slowing down and rethinking what they&#039;ve rashly and ineptly been doing would be a relief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think the message is about to get a lot clearer.&#8221;</p>
<p>To me the real question is if, as the bad news builds and the Dems fracture as well as flounder more and more from their missteps, eventually even the lib Dems as well as the Blue Dogs get their heads out of their asses and say that they must:</p>
<p>a) Stop;</p>
<p>b) Start thinking about what they really want to do;</p>
<p>c) Restart from the beginning, trying to be sane and sensible, for a change, this year.  No more rushing, no more stupidity, no more idiotic extremist flirting and related destructive legislation and nonsense.</p>
<p>You know, maybe they&#39;ll stop being stupid (and expecting us stupidly to accept and support them) and actually try to be truly purposeful and intelligent in deciding what they want to do and how to do it.</p>
<p>It doesn&#39;t even require them to reform themselves to the point where they listen to and work with the GOP.</p>
<p>It doesn&#39;t even require them to do what they should do to reassure better people, to admit they have been wrong in what they have sought, and more in how they&#39;ve sought it and otherwise behaved, increasingly, since the start of this year.</p>
<p>That would be expecting too much of them, anyway.</p>
<p>Even their merely slowing down and rethinking what they&#39;ve rashly and ineptly been doing would be a relief.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/44019/mixed-messages-being-sent-on-public-option-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-207543</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Now pick your poll you can believe shanon lee&#039;s poll that has 58% of Republicans strongly favoring a public option compared to just 3% more of Democrats, or you can believe something more in the realm of reality&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Shannon Lee&#039;s blatant, overt bias and misstatements about, for example, the true political mainstream and character of the US public have been observed before.  I&#039;ve also seen (courtesy of Clearly Not Neutral) quick film clips of the fringists who sport signs saying things like &quot;Health Care Is A Right&quot; [sic] and &quot;83% Love The Public Option&quot; [sic], for example.  It wouldn&#039;t surprise me if, even after the latest disturbing news (to the mainstream, to those of us who are in the real world, at least) of the latest deficit figures (showing a record by the Dems whose misspending we predicted would be worse than the GOP&#039;s, but remain very surprising in how bad it would be, and how soon after the elections), some people might actually insist on maintaining the silly phrase and position, &quot;We can&#039;t afford NOT to&quot; engage in the Dems&#039; problematic health care effort, including the &quot;public option&quot; feature, with the additional childish word and view, &quot;NOW!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Now pick your poll you can believe shanon lee&#39;s poll that has 58% of Republicans strongly favoring a public option compared to just 3% more of Democrats, or you can believe something more in the realm of reality&#8221;</p>
<p>Shannon Lee&#39;s blatant, overt bias and misstatements about, for example, the true political mainstream and character of the US public have been observed before.  I&#39;ve also seen (courtesy of Clearly Not Neutral) quick film clips of the fringists who sport signs saying things like &#8220;Health Care Is A Right&#8221; [sic] and &#8220;83% Love The Public Option&#8221; [sic], for example.  It wouldn&#39;t surprise me if, even after the latest disturbing news (to the mainstream, to those of us who are in the real world, at least) of the latest deficit figures (showing a record by the Dems whose misspending we predicted would be worse than the GOP&#39;s, but remain very surprising in how bad it would be, and how soon after the elections), some people might actually insist on maintaining the silly phrase and position, &#8220;We can&#39;t afford NOT to&#8221; engage in the Dems&#39; problematic health care effort, including the &#8220;public option&#8221; feature, with the additional childish word and view, &#8220;NOW!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/44019/mixed-messages-being-sent-on-public-option-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-207534</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just how stupid do they think we are?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We may see more answers to that question the more desperate they get.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Choosing Maxine Waters as one &quot;defender&quot; of this idiocy was a real laugh.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Demmies&#039; max-overreach-to-date is coming apart and going down in flames somewhat already.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Burn, baby, burn!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just how stupid do they think we are?&#8221;</p>
<p>We may see more answers to that question the more desperate they get.</p>
<p>Choosing Maxine Waters as one &#8220;defender&#8221; of this idiocy was a real laugh.</p>
<p>The Demmies&#39; max-overreach-to-date is coming apart and going down in flames somewhat already.</p>
<p>Burn, baby, burn!</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregg Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This clip really helped me understand the nuances of health care reform debates, not to mention it&#039;s hilarious. You have to watch it. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsy.com/videos/language_of_the_healthcare_debate&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.newsy.com/videos/language_of_the_hea...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This clip really helped me understand the nuances of health care reform debates, not to mention it&#39;s hilarious. You have to watch it. <a href="http://www.newsy.com/videos/language_of_the_healthcare_debate" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.newsy.com/videos/language_of_the_hea.." rel="nofollow">http://www.newsy.com/videos/language_of_the_hea..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/44019/mixed-messages-being-sent-on-public-option-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-207371</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the message is about to get a lot clearer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama to raise 10-year deficit to $9 trillion&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE57K4XE20090821&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Public option just got much harder to sell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the message is about to get a lot clearer.</p>
<p>Obama to raise 10-year deficit to $9 trillion</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE57K4XE20090821" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5.." rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5..</a>.</p>
<p>The Public option just got much harder to sell.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/44019/mixed-messages-being-sent-on-public-option-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-207368</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/090818/trever.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/090818/trever.gif&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 08:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and a new NBC poll shows 47% oppose the Public Option and only 43% favor it&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now pick your poll you can believe shanon lee&#039;s poll that has 58% of Republicans strongly favoring a public option compared to just 3% more of Democrats, or you can believe something more in the realm of reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and a new NBC poll shows 47% oppose the Public Option and only 43% favor it</p>
<p>Now pick your poll you can believe shanon lee&#39;s poll that has 58% of Republicans strongly favoring a public option compared to just 3% more of Democrats, or you can believe something more in the realm of reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 08:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a must read on the way Conservatives feel about this:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Stupid Nation&lt;br&gt;Just how stupid do they think we are?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZWQ3Njk0OWNlZGNhZDVmOTFiNjJmYTRkNjMxNWJjYjI=&amp;w=MQ==&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZWQ3Njk0OW...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a must read on the way Conservatives feel about this:</p>
<p>Stupid Nation<br />Just how stupid do they think we are?</p>
<p><a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZWQ3Njk0OWNlZGNhZDVmOTFiNjJmYTRkNjMxNWJjYjI=&#038;w=MQ==" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZWQ3Njk0OW.." rel="nofollow">http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZWQ3Njk0OW..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: shannonlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>shannonlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 07:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A new surveyusa polls show that 77 percent of americans support the choice of a public plan.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;!n any health care proposal, how important do you feel it is to give people a choice of both a public plan administered by the federal government and a private plan for their health insurance--extremely important, quite important, not that important, or not at all important?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now please explain to me how a public option would cast the Dem party &quot;further into the liberal mold and farther away from the centrist interests of the American people&quot;, when a majority of Americans want the option?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am getting tired of people saying that a public option is socialism...far left...out of the mainstream.  Maybe in your conservative world it is, but center America obviously supports it.  Most 1st world countries support it.  It is time to evolve...if you believe in such a thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new surveyusa polls show that 77 percent of americans support the choice of a public plan.</p>
<p>&#8220;!n any health care proposal, how important do you feel it is to give people a choice of both a public plan administered by the federal government and a private plan for their health insurance&#8211;extremely important, quite important, not that important, or not at all important?&#8221;</p>
<p>Now please explain to me how a public option would cast the Dem party &#8220;further into the liberal mold and farther away from the centrist interests of the American people&#8221;, when a majority of Americans want the option?</p>
<p>I am getting tired of people saying that a public option is socialism&#8230;far left&#8230;out of the mainstream.  Maybe in your conservative world it is, but center America obviously supports it.  Most 1st world countries support it.  It is time to evolve&#8230;if you believe in such a thing.</p>
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