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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/43848/things-really-havent-changed/comment-page-1/#comment-206883</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta love the modern Press.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most recent example..... Race baiting courtesy of MSNBC&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0809/Righty_bloggers_slam_MSNBC_over_gun_clip_network_responds.html?showall&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Following the shot of the African-American man focusing specifically on the gun, MSNBC host Contessa Brewer said that &quot;you have a man of color in the presidency and white people showing up with guns strapped to their waists or to their legs.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yup edit out anything that revealed he was a black man and then evoking an image of racist gun toting white people threatening the president....isn&#039;t that just a special kind of modern journalism.  Well done MSNBC you&#039;ve just lowered the bar again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta love the modern Press.</p>
<p>Most recent example&#8230;.. Race baiting courtesy of MSNBC</p>
<p><a href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0809/Righty_bloggers_slam_MSNBC_over_gun_clip_network_responds.html?showall" rel="nofollow">http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/&#8230;</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Following the shot of the African-American man focusing specifically on the gun, MSNBC host Contessa Brewer said that &#8220;you have a man of color in the presidency and white people showing up with guns strapped to their waists or to their legs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yup edit out anything that revealed he was a black man and then evoking an image of racist gun toting white people threatening the president&#8230;.isn&#39;t that just a special kind of modern journalism.  Well done MSNBC you&#39;ve just lowered the bar again.</p>
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		<title>By: D. E.Rodriguez</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/43848/things-really-havent-changed/comment-page-1/#comment-206651</link>
		<dc:creator>D. E.Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While I have already questioned Grant&#039;s implication that non-journalists are uneducated and his comment on &quot;the ignorance of the community,&quot; (I still have no idea what he is talking about--perhaps because I am uneducated), I believe that, on the other hand, you have totally jumped the shark by rushing to single out and condemn en-masse &quot;leftist, liberal&quot; journalism.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How  you come to such a conclusion from  Grant&#039;s post and links boggles my uneducated mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLS:</p>
<p>While I have already questioned Grant&#39;s implication that non-journalists are uneducated and his comment on &#8220;the ignorance of the community,&#8221; (I still have no idea what he is talking about&#8211;perhaps because I am uneducated), I believe that, on the other hand, you have totally jumped the shark by rushing to single out and condemn en-masse &#8220;leftist, liberal&#8221; journalism.</p>
<p>How  you come to such a conclusion from  Grant&#39;s post and links boggles my uneducated mind.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/43848/things-really-havent-changed/comment-page-1/#comment-206635</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No politicizing attempts by me, just timely noting of revelent facts (including the current behavior by the media aimed at mischaracterizing and attacking the public so as to defend the problem-ridden health care effort by the Dems in Washington).  Journalists are largely liberal and their bias and related conduct shows.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pew (source of many timely, good-quality reports) has plenty to say about how things may be changing:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://people-press.org/report/67/striking-the-balance-audience-interests-business-pressures-and-journalists-values&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://people-press.org/report/67/striking-the-...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://people-press.org/report/214/bottom-line-pressures-now-hurting-coverage-say-journalists&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://people-press.org/report/214/bottom-line-...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://people-press.org/report/403/financial-woes-now-overshadow-all-other-concerns-for-journalists&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://people-press.org/report/403/financial-wo...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Et cetera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No politicizing attempts by me, just timely noting of revelent facts (including the current behavior by the media aimed at mischaracterizing and attacking the public so as to defend the problem-ridden health care effort by the Dems in Washington).  Journalists are largely liberal and their bias and related conduct shows.</p>
<p>Pew (source of many timely, good-quality reports) has plenty to say about how things may be changing:</p>
<p><a href="http://people-press.org/report/67/striking-the-balance-audience-interests-business-pressures-and-journalists-values" rel="nofollow">http://people-press.org/report/67/striking-the-&#8230;</a></p>
<p><a href="http://people-press.org/report/214/bottom-line-pressures-now-hurting-coverage-say-journalists" rel="nofollow">http://people-press.org/report/214/bottom-line-&#8230;</a></p>
<p><a href="http://people-press.org/report/403/financial-woes-now-overshadow-all-other-concerns-for-journalists" rel="nofollow">http://people-press.org/report/403/financial-wo&#8230;</a></p>
<p>Et cetera.</p>
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		<title>By: Shard</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/43848/things-really-havent-changed/comment-page-1/#comment-206596</link>
		<dc:creator>Shard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS&#039;s politicizing attempts aside, the four websites which were on display in the original post are more indicative of the way tools have changed in journalism than journalism itself. An investigative journalist - whether they be considered professional or amateur - is now able to more easily gather information on a given subject than ever before. I&#039;ve used at least two of those sites, myself, to find new information on current topics. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps this, more than anything, is where journalism is changing once more. Before the Associated Press and other conglomerates, local news would allow for independent reporters or citizens to investigate stories. The editor&#039;s job remained somewhat the same as now: verifying the information present. Over time, the staff reporter was all that was allowed in the paper.  Now, however, that scheme isn&#039;t held as acceptable by a growing number of readership. For that matter, the same can be said true for viewership of the last journalistic trend: television.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLS&#39;s politicizing attempts aside, the four websites which were on display in the original post are more indicative of the way tools have changed in journalism than journalism itself. An investigative journalist &#8211; whether they be considered professional or amateur &#8211; is now able to more easily gather information on a given subject than ever before. I&#39;ve used at least two of those sites, myself, to find new information on current topics. </p>
<p>Perhaps this, more than anything, is where journalism is changing once more. Before the Associated Press and other conglomerates, local news would allow for independent reporters or citizens to investigate stories. The editor&#39;s job remained somewhat the same as now: verifying the information present. Over time, the staff reporter was all that was allowed in the paper.  Now, however, that scheme isn&#39;t held as acceptable by a growing number of readership. For that matter, the same can be said true for viewership of the last journalistic trend: television.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Journalism&#039;s &quot;qualifications&quot; should not be limited to being able to stupidly pronounce leftist ideological and partisan Democratic (often pre-published) talking points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Journalism&#39;s &#8220;qualifications&#8221; should not be limited to being able to stupidly pronounce leftist ideological and partisan Democratic (often pre-published) talking points.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, what we&#039;re seeing here is more dishonesty and resentment from the Left, as the more educated the public is about the nature of the Dems and their behavior (going all the way back to the bank bailout, the GM takeover, the stimulus) and how it has gotten worse this year (such as with the climate bill), and the more it learns about the health care effort (beginning with deliberate avoidance of costs and paying them, with failure of legislators to read the legislation they are to vote on, and more), the more it learns, the more it objects, and that has childish, condescending, smug, ignorant little lefties agitated and angry.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hence the scummy slander and other forms of attack directed at those who know and are better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, what we&#39;re seeing here is more dishonesty and resentment from the Left, as the more educated the public is about the nature of the Dems and their behavior (going all the way back to the bank bailout, the GM takeover, the stimulus) and how it has gotten worse this year (such as with the climate bill), and the more it learns about the health care effort (beginning with deliberate avoidance of costs and paying them, with failure of legislators to read the legislation they are to vote on, and more), the more it learns, the more it objects, and that has childish, condescending, smug, ignorant little lefties agitated and angry.</p>
<p>Hence the scummy slander and other forms of attack directed at those who know and are better.</p>
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		<title>By: Father_Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father_Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A BA in modern journalism is considered educated? I was under the impression that journalism is where students go that can&#039;t handle math and physics. If journalists are charged with teaching the ignorance out of the larger community, then maybe they should be &quot;educated&quot; in more than just talking head spectra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A BA in modern journalism is considered educated? I was under the impression that journalism is where students go that can&#39;t handle math and physics. If journalists are charged with teaching the ignorance out of the larger community, then maybe they should be &#8220;educated&#8221; in more than just talking head spectra.</p>
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		<title>By: D. E.Rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>D. E.Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Grant:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s hard to tell what the intent of your short post (including linked articles) is, but I wouldn&#039;t rush to equate those who are not journaslist, those who don&#039;t write in accordance with the AP Style manual, etc., to &quot;the uneducated&#039;&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would dare to say that many of those uneducated bloggers (modern jounalism) (sic), are much more &quot;educated&quot; than many journalists.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It all depends on your  definition of &quot;educated&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for your post, anyway</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Grant:</p>
<p>It&#39;s hard to tell what the intent of your short post (including linked articles) is, but I wouldn&#39;t rush to equate those who are not journaslist, those who don&#39;t write in accordance with the AP Style manual, etc., to &#8220;the uneducated&#39;&#8221;</p>
<p>I would dare to say that many of those uneducated bloggers (modern jounalism) (sic), are much more &#8220;educated&#8221; than many journalists.</p>
<p>It all depends on your  definition of &#8220;educated&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for your post, anyway</p>
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