I threw them together in 5 minutes. I am on vacation visiting my brother and family in Miami. The fact I could throw together such a list of links, totally cohesive or not, so quickly is proof enough, in my mind, that I made my point. It was going on for years.

And let's be clear. I am NOT saying it is OK now because it was done then. I am saying the Left, as a whole, in the form of the sudden realization of how truly offensive it is to use Nazi and Hitler comparisons is willfully whitewashing their own actions, and that that is a very common behavioral trait of theirs, IMHO.

An impressive collection. Thanks for following through.

Much of what's in these links are claims without any real documentation, or that at best are disputed. Some of them might be true, but it's hard to know without researching each one of them. These are not anchored in one relatively specific time and place. Some of them are comments from foreigners (like Harold Pinter). Doesn't make his comment any less outrageous, but he's Harold Pinter, a British playwright, not Rush Limbaugh or John Boehner.

The link to the photos of participants in various demonstrations was the most credible, at least in terms of the specific demonstrators. One doesn't know of course whether this was one demonstrator out of thousands, or whether this was at all representative of the event as a whole, BUT — that said — just talking about those particular, specific people, the messages they had on signs and banners, etc., were disgusting. Stomach-turning. I have been to many anti-war demonstrations, and I know there are people like that, and as far as I'm concerned they're total hypocrites (in addition to being vile and disgusting). You cannot claim to be against war, against violence, against killing, and hold up signs saying that Bush (or anyone) should be killed. That's just revoltingly wrong.

That said, in the demonstrations I've been to, people like that were almost always a tiny minority of the overall crowd. Plus, you did not have the governor of Texas egging them on and encouraging them.

Finally, I don't get any sense from this collection about the response at the time from the media and other public figures. And it wasn't just one period in time, even roughly. It seems to me a bit of a stretch, and not terribly reasonable, to compare such a vast collection of disparate, unconnected events, quotes, claims, etc. — with no evidence that they were *not* criticized and/or condemned at the time, in the dozens and dozens and dozens of places and contexts they happened — to what Republican leaders in Congress and famous media pundits are saying in a relatively short period of time (one or two months) in the context of a specific legislative proposal.

http://semiskimmed.net/bushhitler.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8AdSHKywEU

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/15574…

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/08/stunn…

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=yd…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpxmYvlLKXo

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

http://brain-terminal.com/posts/2009/08/20/hitl…

So really now, you are using the “They did it too” defense?

Yes, well, I guess as compared to Kathy Kattenburg, Michael Stickings, et. al., I do express my opinions strongly. I will try to keep my comments to the level of civility they demonstrate.

Oh. Wait. That won't really work, will it?

“And [if] my gentle 'nuanced' comment is going to ruffle your feather so much…”

No feathers were raised here, I'm telling you that there are many topics where many of us are basically aligned than not yet your inflammatory language pushes support away. But don't let me stop you.

I also said, correctly, there as just as much, if not more, of it coming form the Left then as the Right now.

And my gentle 'nuanced' comment is going to ruffle your feather so much, perhaps you shouldn't hang around political blogs. I mean, really, that was hardly an attack or an insult. It was just a reference to the meme the Left use to LOVE throwing around about their grasp of nuance as compared to the Right, nothing more.

You may actually get more people to agree with you if you don't stand there and insult them.

Too nuanced for you, I guess.

I appreciate your willingness to be turn introspective and be honest. More importantly I know you do as well. This is a sign of character, we all fall down from time to time, it happens, as long as we can pick ourselves back up, it will be ok.

LOL, AR. I will await “the NUMEROUS links of Bush = Hitler at mainstream events (attended by Democratic officials and lawmakers); the NUMEROUS Death to Bush memes and signs and songs and plays (along with death to Cheney)” from you or one of your fellow travelers who are not traveling.

There goes AR again painting with a broad brush and now with a “Well they did it too!” hue.

Is it that you've forgotten the lessons of your youth, or that you don't consider yourself among the “so many” who were taught? Because your ability to deny that your opinions come from a place of racial priviledge is still very much intact.

So many of us were taught from the beginning to do this (in addition to exercising logical and moral review of our other actions and the thoughts which have underlain or moved them). We're also aware of the Civil Rights movement and how things used to be before the revolution in these affairs. We're the last people who should be accused wrongly as well as falsely of racism, especially when no such racism exists (which dishonest people say actually still exists when it doesn't exists, merely as “code” [sic]). This is similar in a way to other self-hatred or nihilistic drives or urges we have inherited from the mid to late 1960s when wrong lessons were learned and liberalism became radicalized. This includes a “need” that the USA and the West feel “guilty” about its successes and feel especially wrong about over-hyped things it has done wrong that routinely have been surpassed by misdeeds elsewhere (when not a case of dishonest accusations of misdeeds). We've paid for it ever since.

Obama lost approval among the public not only when he wrongly (and arrogantly) agitated on behalf of the lunatic climate legislation pushed by crazier Dems in Congress earlier this year, then he lost more approval after misspeaking publicly about the Gates affair (which was overblown, should never have been made into nation-wide news in the first place or a subject at a Presidential news conference) and insulting better people by saying the public at large is racist and in need of “teaching” (indoctrination with nonsense, for pathological bogus “guilt” reasons!); he has only made things worse by taking among the most strident or forceful (i.e., the worst) position favoring the current defect-ridden health care effort.

He only debases himself by attacking the opposition (the _mainstream_) and appealing pathetically as follows:

“These are all fabrications that have been put out there in order to discourage people from meeting what I consider to be a core ethical and moral obligation: that is that we look out for one another, that I am my brother’s keeper, I am my sister’s keeper. In the wealthiest nation on earth right now, we are neglecting to live up to that call.”

I like the idea of “racism without racists”. It puts the focus on specific actions instead of something wrong with a person's soul that made them perform those actions. As suggested in one of the quoted articles, perhaps we can think of racism as a societal problem that needs working on. With that view, when we see racist actions in ourselves, instead the knee-jerk reaction of “I'm not a racist!” that is so common, perhaps we can look at what we've done (even if subtle), apologize, and move on with a greater understanding of how to be less racist in the future. Coming from the view of labeling people as racists, people who know they are good people will be unable to see themselves as having done or said something from a place of racial priviledge because of the roadblock of that label “racist”.

She is one of the few militant fringists who is desperate to see the awful health care initiative succeed.

There was nothing wrong with my earlier reference this year to Hitler when saying Obama was launching attacks on several fronts (issues) at once without securing a single one before proceeding to the next.

There also is nothing wrong about my identifying (predictable) SEIU brown-shirt behavior in St. Louis.

I have to again disagree with you. Unfortunately, I am traveling to Miami right now, and am between flights, and will be tied up all weekend, so I won't have time to chase down the NUMEROUS links of Bush = Hitler at mainstream events (attended by Democratic officials and lawmakers); the NUMEROUS Death to Bush memes and signs and songs and plays (along with death to Cheney). Hopefully one of the other posters who do not view the Bush years through such distorted lenses such as your can save me the trouble, and before this thread goes stale.

But it definitely was not just individuals – it was coordinated, repeated, mass-emailed, and supported throughout the Democratic ranks high and low. How ridiculously disingenuous of you to even try that Big Lie tactic on this topic. I cannot believe that even you believe yourself on this one.