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KILLING COMPETITION – OH REALLY??

Some critics of current Democratic healthcare reforms falsely assert that a public option entity would kill competition within the U.S. private health insurance market. This claim begs several questions. Is the private health insurance market really competitive? Should it even be based on free-market principles?

Several studies have shown that in most cases across the U.S. just one or two private insurance companies dominate any particular region or state. The current regulatory system does not provide for national coverage or portability, in part due to separate state regulations on private healthcare plans and concurrently for Medicare and Medicaid. Tens of millions of people simply cannot buy health insurance due to the cost – so even that fact challenges the private sector’s ability to cover everyone or offer competitive prices. There are arguments that favor economies of scale, in that larger entities can control costs better than a group of smaller companies that have less bargaining power with their suppliers and customers. However, they run contrary to those arguing we must preserve private competition when essentially none exists.

Some other argue further that millions of young individuals who consider themselves indestructible refuse to buy insurance and that fact distorts the very notion of risk-spreading inherent with private insurance. If basic policies really charged these individuals a reasonable monthly charge to cover their anticipated medical needs (including a reasonable profit built into the price) these individuals would likely buy those policies, but again that choice really doesn’t exist in the current healthcare insurance market. Huge deductibles and co-pays, and multiple exclusions often offset lower monthly premiums.

Furthermore, if we wanted to charge the young to cover their parents’ far higher medical bills, then we would set up a Medicare-type system of mandatory payroll deductions not based upon any personal attributes nor actuarial charges associated with their healthcare needs, but rather based upon the overall need to cover a much larger population. It seems we have already done this successfully in the U.S. via a huge public option for our elderly. Based upon extensive historical evidence, we should all be able to agree that 80 percent of the healthy people are destined to pay for 20 percent who are the sick ones under any public or private plan.

Others facetiously argue, including private health insurance companies, that if these young indestructible individuals were required to buy insurance, many of the systemic financial problems would go away. Unfortunately, most of the uninsured people work as independent contractors, consultants, or for small businesses that do not provide employer-based health insurance. And this large number of uninsured individuals consists of people from all walks of economic life and it includes all age groups, often people with pre-existing conditions. The potential huge revenue stream will not materialize unless the Government subsidizes excessively high private insurance premiums to private insurers.

Comedian Bill Maher recently challenged the narrow-minded notion developed over the past 30 years that if something does not make a profit, we should not bother with it no matter how important it might be for most people. Many on the right believe that any activity, including the social and economic needs of the general public that cannot be met by a private for-profit company, must simply be ignored. We have seen the apotheosis of such a societal worldview – our unregulated financial and banking sector where greed brought down an entire world economy and making money was the only objective. That system has also extorted our Federal Government to socialize its losses so the profits-at-any-cost business model can continue despite the long-term needs of the rest of the economy and the vast majority of citizens.

If we only did things based upon an expectation of future profits, we certainly would not have children, draw and paint, play musical instruments, exercise or play any sports for the fun of it, read books, cook for family and friends, go on vacations, write poetry, and engage in most all pleasurable human activities. Some kids and their parents aggressively pursue various extra-curricular activities with the sole mindset of future college scholarships (a quasi “for-profit” attitude) that it becomes utterly repulsive in practice. Some may counter these are personal activities unrelated to the for-profit necessity in the rest of life, such as business, providing education to our children, transportation infrastructures, environmental protection, or a competent criminal and civil justice system. These closed-minded arguments have only been used to pick and choose which governmental programs are to be funded more than others – not that anything is anywhere related to preserving a capitalist system or providing for the public good.

Others have facetiously tried to argue that healthcare is not that important to even be considered a civil right for every human being. Why bother with annual inoculations of children against various diseases? I mean these little people are just loss centers that produce expenses but no profits and they should be reduced by the annual onslaught of preventable diseases so we adults can concentrate on our for-profit ventures that define everything in life. To think these nihilistic ideas are actually espoused by ostensibly sane individuals gives one pause.

I am not a capitalist, socialist, communist, monetarist, or any other –ist. I do not subscribe to any particular economic or political system despite the claims of many critical commentators to my prior TMV posts. I cannot see any particular economic system enshrined in the U.S. Constitution. The document lets future generations pursue what works for them towards a “more perfect union” not just for the extreme enrichment of just a small minority of citizens. Those who claim to know the real “founders’ intent” are merely liars and control freaks. The constitution is meant to change and be amended over time, though it does require a super-majority that has been achieved 27 times over the past 200 years.

Some have claimed the 5th Amendment against governmental taking without just compensation as preserving the capitalist system. People read what they want to in any document but such an assertion is ludicrous and completely wrong. It is just a recognition that no governmental entity should simply take private property without providing “just” compensation – more enshrining an idea that is simply right and sensible – possibly reflecting one of the Ten Commandments admonishing humans not to steal. The founders simply extended it to the central government as well.

Back in 1789, there was already a long history of despots, monarchs and even English nobles taking the land and property of common people without paying for it. That certainly does not endorse free capitalism but puts an important limit on extortion or stealing into our Constitution. It is unfortunate that our national and state governments have done so little limiting the interest charged by loan sharks – our modern-day extortionists called payday lenders. Of course our large banking institutions are now moving into these lucrative unregulated local markets in full force. That happens when a country does not regulate greedy and amoral sociopaths.

Returning to the healthcare insurance conundrum, a public option does not require a public or quasi-governmental entity to exist. I mentioned in a prior post that a nationally required and regulation minimum health insurance plan could be offered by each private healthcare company to the general public. The premiums, coverages and patient protections would all be set by law. Private health insurers could continue competing by offering additional benefits in supplemental policies. Switzerland already has a very similar system in place and they essentially have universal coverage with healthcare costs at 11% of GDP instead of 16% as in the U.S. Cost-containment is a separate issue from expanding coverage to cover all Americans.

It is sad that too many Democrats are being unrealistically demanding of this Administration to put into place some idealized national healthcare system by the end of this year. Republicans never admitted defeat when tax cuts were not large enough to meet original demands – they claimed victory for every small one that after time now is the source of over 30% of our current Federal fiscal deficit. When Social Security was enacted in 1935, it did not cover agricultural or domestic workers, along with many others, and the benefits were certainly meager. However, it was a major beginning upon which successive Democratic Administrations and Congresses built upon until it is now an unassailable essential part of American society.

Those who claim Social Security is another governmental failure because its revenues from payroll taxes will not cover total payments (expenses) in 10 years, conveniently forget that most Americans cannot look lovingly or securely to their private savings and 401K plans for any predictable retirement income – thanks to our reckless, greedy and unregulated financial sector. Social Security is an inter-generational contract that presupposes that there are more people paying into the system as younger workers than those taking out benefits after retirement.

To solve the Social Security long-term funding problem, the current withholding tax should not be capped at the first $106,800 of earned income. It should be imposed on all earned income as is the 1.45% payroll tax for Medicare & Medicaid. Yes, this will raise income taxes for the wealthiest 5% of Americans but that is necessary for the long-term benefit for the other 95% of Americans. Those who argue that most poor people do not pay any income taxes are also being disingenuous – usually when arguing against raising marginal income tax rates on the very wealthy 1 to 5 percent of the population. Payroll taxes are imposed after the first $600 is earned in a year. These taxes are levied against all earned income from actually working – not just bloviating on conservative talk radio or TV. Just calling them “payroll” taxes does not make them any less “income” taxes, particularly when all self-employed people must calculate them on their 1040 income tax returns.

I think Democrats should push to enact the 80% of proposed healthcare reforms that are not being contested, such as more patient protections, regulations on what private health insurers can refuse to cover or pay, and certain programs to determine what works best in controlling costs systemically. These and other healthcare issues can and should be revisited every 2 to 4 years so further incremental changes can be enacted. Democrats should not become disillusioned that complete healthcare reform is not achieved in 2009. They should be prepared to embrace the first major step towards reforming this large sector of the American economy.

Republicans, who merely want to defeat any and all healthcare reforms in order to continue their political and social war against Democrats and this new Administration, are doing this country a great long-term disservice. Of course a party that wrongly opposed Social Security, Medicare, Children’s Healthcare initiatives, the Civil Rights Acts, the 2009 Stimulus Act, and many other important national legislation when they were original proposed, that spent recklessly over the prior 8 years, went to war in Iraq on flimsy or fabricated grounds, really should never been considered a serious source of national policy or worthwhile ideas.

Many of the angry older white people screaming at Town Hall Healthcare meetings are simply sore losers who cannot accept the 2008 election results. Intentionally fabricating lies about healthcare proposals that have not yet been finalized is absurd. Exaggerated charges of Hitler, Nazism, and socialism denigrates the real evils those historical movements and person meant to many people. They are simply not appropriate references for normal disagreements with respect to national policy. Arguing that a few Democrats foolishly engaged in some prior branding in the past, does not justify the over-the-top, constant and concerted use of such lies by most Republicans who speak for their party, whether elected or unelected.

Democrats must understand that Republicans are masters of appealing to the base emotions of humans, and misleading many gullible and uneducated people. They must be prepared to enact healthcare, financial, environmental and infrastructure reforms with no bipartisan support. The discredited policies of Republicans have so damaged this country that it will take years to dig ourselves out of the deep pit in which they have dumped the country. They and their ignorant wing-nut supports have no credibility whatsoever and should be completely ignored until the necessary national legislation is passed and signed by the President.

Submitted on 8/16/09 by Marc Pascal in Phoenix, Arizona.

  • Father_Time
    Yes of course. Never underestimate some people's willingness to believe what they want to believe, truth or not. Never underestimate some people's willingness to propagandize that which is not true for self interest. In short, never underestimate selfishness and greed among those whom hate others as much as they hate themselves.
  • Leonidas
    The Public option is already dead.
  • I tend to agree Leonidas. From a political point of view, I think the Republicans have won a sizable victory already. Whether it was by the Democrats hands or not, the Obama Administration is like a boxer in that's backpedaling with his gloves squarely in a defensive position. This is why I've always felt the President Obama should have pounced HARD on big infrastructure projects and start putting people to work (instead of a stimulus bill with oodles of pork ladled on it). Because a person who starts working again will be hard press to give you much grief if YOUR jobs program is the reason they are working.
  • Father_Time
    Leonidas--

    That just may be, since it was just announced. Congress has apparently decided that business is more important than people. We have learned that conservatives, whether it be blue dog democrats or the republican party, can buy congress against the people's will. Continue down this path and as more Americans are squeezed out of any hope for even the palest description of prosperity and you can expect violence.
  • Leonidas
    FT. Sorry but your way off bounds with that Limbaugh like hyperbole. The fact is most people are against this government plan, and that even though the democrats have enough seats to pass it on their own, they can't. Only the far left is really love with the public option, and guess what? There aren't that many of them.

    Now, if they want meaningful reform now that the horrible idea of the government running it (like other troubled programs, Social Security, Medicare, the Post Office, etc.) is essentailly off the table, Congress can get to the real work of coming up with pragmatic solutions and not liberal pipe dreams.

    There are areas where bipartisan solutions can work. Allow folks to buy insurance from other states. After all can you think of any reason why someone in New Jersey pays twice what someone in California pays for the same coverage? Can you?

    Reform the way doctor and hospital costs are hidden from the patient beforehand and make healthcare professionals required to send their costs (udated when changes are made) to a national database so that people can go online and compare services offered and prices for all facilities and doctors in their area. Such open competition will bring down costs.

    Strip away the levels of government regulations and you will find savings too, as well as removing barriers between the doctor and patients. Before government got heavily involved costs were much lower and the doctor - patient relationship was probably better.

    It also must be understood that insurance companies do not provide healthcare, they provide risk management. As long as the actual costs of the services remain high, the cost of risk management will as well.

    Another area is tort reform that will reduce physician's costs, thus insurance costs.

    There are so many possible reforms that have no reliance on a public option, going for a system that once implimented we could never be rid of was anything but serious thinking by the democrats, now that the pipe dream is over, hopefully they can get back to what they should have been doing all along, trying to work with their republican colleagues and come up with a practical reform that the public can be happy with.
  • kathykattenburg
    he fact is most people are against this government plan...

    The fact is, there is no specific plan, government or otherwise. Most Americans want to be able to get the health care and medical services that they need without worrying about how they are going to pay for it. If a public health care option can do that for them, they will be in favor of it. Nobody who lives in a country where you can just make a doctor's appt when you need to or go to the hospital ER when you need to, show them a card, and know that you will not be billed for thousands of dollars, thinks it's a bad thing to have such a system.

    Allow folks to buy insurance from other states. After all can you think of any reason why someone in New Jersey pays twice what someone in California pays for the same coverage? Can you?

    Yes, I can, because the health care costs and risks are different.
  • Kathy, I think it's true that Americans want reform. But I think your statement that they'll take any solution -- including a government-run health system -- assumes far too much. As I mentioned on your other post (in which you also referenced other countries), we are not them. And no matter what system works in a country 1/10th the size of this one, such a system will not be the same here. Size, if nothing else, will glitch that to pieces.

    Also -- in response to Leonidas' question about why someone in one state pays twice what someone in another state pays for the same coverage, you said "the health care costs and risks are different".

    Hunh? You can't seriously be saying that an American living in one state has twice the care needs and risks. Worse yet -- if your statement were correct, that alone would negate any one-size-fits-all solution, would it not?
  • kathykattenburg
    Polimom,

    I didn't say "the same." No two health care systems are "the same" but all countries that have some kind of national health care system (every industrialized country but us) have in common that they provide at least basic preventive health care to *all citizens.*

    Re your But all those other countries are 1/10th our size! I would point to Canada, which is, I'm guessing, about twice the size of the United States. Then there is Australia, which although smaller than the U.S. is comparable in size. .

    You can't seriously be saying that an American living in one state has twice the care needs and risks.

    I'm saying that certain health risks are higher or lower depending where you are in the country. For example, incidence rates for certain types of cancers, like breast and cervical just for two, are higher in certain parts of the country than in others. An insurance company in Omaha, Nebraska, is not going to give me, living as I do on the East Coast, the same coverage policy -- or perhaps more accurately the same premium cost or the same deductible level -- as a woman in Nebraska. This is why huge national insurance companies ask you where you live and have regional branches even if headquartered in one particular state. Did you realize this? It's not rocket science.
  • mikkel
    Haha Kathy, I'm not sure that health care is based on geographic land mass. Australia has a bit over 20 million people and canada 33, so they are 1/10th roughly.

    "This is why huge national insurance companies ask you where you live and have regional branches even if headquartered in one particular state. Did you realize this? "

    Actually it's because each state has their own regulations and that is the primary reason for cost discrepancies.
  • kathykattenburg
    Haha Kathy, I'm not sure that health care is based on geographic land mass. Australia has a bit over 20 million people and canada 33, so they are 1/10th roughly

    I agree, but Polimom thinks the U.S. can't handle a public health care option because of our size.

    Actually it's because each state has their own regulations and that is the primary reason for cost discrepancies.

    Uh-huh, and how likely is it that Repubs and conservadems will agree to abolish state regulations or tell states they have to abolish state regulations so Americans can get the same health insurance rates no matter where they live?
  • CStanley
    I agree, but Polimom thinks the U.S. can't handle a public health care option because of our size.

    But she was talking about population size, not geographic size. And actually, although I don't know all the details, I don't think Canada has one nationalized system- I believe it's a federation of systems organized by province, with some autonomy in each region. So, even if their population size were similar to ours, they would not be an example of a one size fits all nationalized healthcare system.
  • Don Quijote
    Another area is tort reform that will reduce physician's costs, thus insurance costs.


    Really? I am sure that you have a list of states that have passed tort reform & studies (by someone other than the insurance companies) showing that the cost and quality of health care has gone up.

    Now, if they want meaningful reform now that the horrible idea of the government running it (like other troubled programs, Social Security, Medicare, the Post Office, etc.) is essentailly off the table, Congress can get to the real work of coming up with pragmatic solutions and not liberal pipe dreams.


    Meaningful reforms?
    Community rating at the state level, the inability to reject people with pre-existing conditions, no rescission and standardized insurance packages (policy X if bought from Aetna or BC-BS would have identical coverage) would turn most health insurance companies into public utilities or put them out of business.

    There are so many possible reforms that have no reliance on a public option, going for a system that once implimented we could never be rid of was anything but serious thinking by the democrats, now that the pipe dream is over, hopefully they can get back to what they should have been doing all along, trying to work with their republican colleagues and come up with a practical reform that the public can be happy with.


    The belief that the Republican party is going to help the Democrats pass any kind of health-care bill is either a sign of naivety or extreme stupidity (the kind that keeps you in third grade until you're sixteen). These are the people who came up with death-panels, Obama not American, etc,,, They have no interest in health-care, they had eight years to do something about it, they did nothing.
  • This is why huge national insurance companies ask you where you live and have regional branches even if headquartered in one particular state. Did you realize this? It's not rocket science.

    Why, Kathy -- thank you so much for clearing that up for me. I did, in fact, have this all mixed up with rocket science. I will immediately cancel my late-night physics tutoring (what a relief!).

    Mikkel, of course, replied that it's because the states have different regulatory bodies, and they're setting their rates and standards independently of one another. He probably used the same tutoring service I did. I'll drop him a note so he can cancel as well.

    "Friendly" little joshing aside -- I see that both CStanley and Mikkel were able to decipher my late-night comment and understand that I wasn't actually concerned about little bureaucrats trying to deliver x-rays on bicycles or something. I had nothing to do with geography, and everything to do with population. In scholastic terms, this translates into numbers and math (though it's still less complex than physics). And I'm amused that you used Canada, since that's one of the countries I had in mind. At 33 million people versus our 300 million people, their logistics are roughly 1/10 what ours would be -- even with a federalized system. The UK's population is about 1/5 of ours (though I suppose they could use bicycles given their compact geographical size).

    It is these very complex, higher-order mathematical equations, in part, that make me think administering a national health care plan would be... um.... logistically challenging.
  • "and how likely is it that Repubs and conservadems will agree to abolish state regulations or tell states they have to abolish state regulations so Americans can get the same health insurance rates no matter where they live?"

    Kathy, the "conservadems" and "Repubs" have been suggesting that insurance companies be allowed to offer policies across state lines throughout this debate.
  • kathykattenburg
    It is these very complex, higher-order mathematical equations, in part, that make me think administering a national health care plan would be... um.... logistically challenging.

    Challenging, certainly, but I have a great deal of faith in American ingenuity and good old American know-how. I refuse to believe that France or Germany can come up with a first-class national health care system that works for their people but the U.S. cannot do the same. In fact, I am convinced that the argument you make here is not pragmatic at all, but just an excuse for a philosophical or ideological opposition to national health care.

    Kathy, the "conservadems" and "Repubs" have been suggesting that insurance companies be allowed to offer policies across state lines throughout this debate.

    Yes, Polimom, I get that part. What I am saying is that this is mere anti-health care reform gameplaying. If health care reform is defeated and Republicans actually have to come up with legislation that includes specific provisions for health care reform, allowing insurance companies to operate across state lines would violate the rights of individual states to regulate cost and coverage. I don't think that would go over too well, and conservatives know that perfectly well.There are a number of other serious problems with allowing insurance companies to operate across state lines, and if we want to get into that discussion, we can, but for now my point is that this so-called "idea" or "proposal" from Republicans is hogwash.
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