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		<title>By: vwcat</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/43305/healthcare-chess-and-unintended-consquences-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-205360</link>
		<dc:creator>vwcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the problem with the conservative idea of thing like state lines and their beloved tax cuts is that it does absolutely nothing for those most in need.  But, that is the point, isn&#039;t it.&lt;br&gt;Having things the conservative way does not address the fact that the costs are obscene, it does nothing for those thrown off for pre-existing conditions or those who have desperately needed care turned down.  It does nothing to get the insurance agent and the executive out from between you and your dr.&lt;br&gt;The whole &#039;government is so evil&#039; is simply old fashioned and out of touch with reality.&lt;br&gt;Reality has proven that it is not gov. but, corporations and their bloated, over paid and over fed CEOs - the modern day version of a robber baron - who is evil and needs to stay out of our lives and quit interfering as well as pulling their ongoing shell games on the public.&lt;br&gt;Government is not evil.  CEOs and big business are.&lt;br&gt;And CEOs are far more sinister then any gov. employee could ever dream of being.&lt;br&gt;And it is the robber barons and CEOs that along with conservative ideology that wreck the global economy and almost landed us in a second great depression.  And you want to trust them with your health care and your life?!??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problem with the conservative idea of thing like state lines and their beloved tax cuts is that it does absolutely nothing for those most in need.  But, that is the point, isn&#39;t it.<br />Having things the conservative way does not address the fact that the costs are obscene, it does nothing for those thrown off for pre-existing conditions or those who have desperately needed care turned down.  It does nothing to get the insurance agent and the executive out from between you and your dr.<br />The whole &#39;government is so evil&#39; is simply old fashioned and out of touch with reality.<br />Reality has proven that it is not gov. but, corporations and their bloated, over paid and over fed CEOs &#8211; the modern day version of a robber baron &#8211; who is evil and needs to stay out of our lives and quit interfering as well as pulling their ongoing shell games on the public.<br />Government is not evil.  CEOs and big business are.<br />And CEOs are far more sinister then any gov. employee could ever dream of being.<br />And it is the robber barons and CEOs that along with conservative ideology that wreck the global economy and almost landed us in a second great depression.  And you want to trust them with your health care and your life?!??</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 02:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People can go to hospitals across a State line, why not buy insurance across one.  The Constitution does not get in the way, just big government and a group of utterly stupid regulations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People can go to hospitals across a State line, why not buy insurance across one.  The Constitution does not get in the way, just big government and a group of utterly stupid regulations.</p>
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		<title>By: HansBader</title>
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		<dc:creator>HansBader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no &quot;constitutional problem&quot; in letting people buy insurance across state lines.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In fact, the constitution&#039;s interstate commerce clause lets people buy stuff across state lines UNLESS Congress passes a law allowing states to ban that -- as it has stupidly done in an archaic insurance law supported by big and powerful health insurers that use regulation to crush cheaper and smaller competitors.  (You can by groceries across state lines.  Why not insurance?)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Repeal that stupid law, and people will be able to buy cheaper insurance.  If any barriers remain, preempt the state laws that are obstacles using Congress&#039;s preemption powers under Article VI of the Constitution.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Congress has been preempting state laws that inhibit competition for decades.  ERISA is a classic example.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But rather than building on this, Obama wants to gut ERISA, reducing choice and increasing costs in employer-sponsored health insurance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no &#8220;constitutional problem&#8221; in letting people buy insurance across state lines.</p>
<p>In fact, the constitution&#39;s interstate commerce clause lets people buy stuff across state lines UNLESS Congress passes a law allowing states to ban that &#8212; as it has stupidly done in an archaic insurance law supported by big and powerful health insurers that use regulation to crush cheaper and smaller competitors.  (You can by groceries across state lines.  Why not insurance?)</p>
<p>Repeal that stupid law, and people will be able to buy cheaper insurance.  If any barriers remain, preempt the state laws that are obstacles using Congress&#39;s preemption powers under Article VI of the Constitution.</p>
<p>Congress has been preempting state laws that inhibit competition for decades.  ERISA is a classic example.</p>
<p>But rather than building on this, Obama wants to gut ERISA, reducing choice and increasing costs in employer-sponsored health insurance.</p>
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		<title>By: Chess Lessons &#8211; Improve Your Chess &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Healthcare, Chess and Unintended Consquences (Guest Voice) &#124; The &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chess Lessons &#8211; Improve Your Chess &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Healthcare, Chess and Unintended Consquences (Guest Voice) &#124; The &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Free Credit Card - Data indicates UAE banking sector exited worst of crisis - Business24-7 &#171; Free Credit Card</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Healthcare, Chess and Unintended Consquences (Guest Voice) - The Moderate VoiceIn the flap over an Op Ed article penned by the CEO of Whole Foods, John Mackey rehashes a right wing idea I blogged about after the CPAC convention in March. This idea has been widely touted as one of the conservative alternatives to any Democratic [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Healthcare, Chess and Unintended Consquences (Guest Voice) &#8211; The Moderate VoiceIn the flap over an Op Ed article penned by the CEO of Whole Foods, John Mackey rehashes a right wing idea I blogged about after the CPAC convention in March. This idea has been widely touted as one of the conservative alternatives to any Democratic [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Polimom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polimom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How coops would be regulated is a good question to bring forward.  However, I see it as a detail to be discussed and worked out rather than as a problematic show-stopper.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For instance -- the author suggests constitutional problems with the coop plan, yet to my knowledge there is nothing in our constitution that prohibits several states to agree to a regional regulatory plan.  And in terms of constitutionality, regional approaches are much closer to the founding intent than a national plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How coops would be regulated is a good question to bring forward.  However, I see it as a detail to be discussed and worked out rather than as a problematic show-stopper.</p>
<p>For instance &#8212; the author suggests constitutional problems with the coop plan, yet to my knowledge there is nothing in our constitution that prohibits several states to agree to a regional regulatory plan.  And in terms of constitutionality, regional approaches are much closer to the founding intent than a national plan.</p>
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		<title>By: tidbits</title>
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		<dc:creator>tidbits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Average Joe -&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s always good to read someone who goes beyond the rhetoric of the day and has a sense of real consequences.  Thank you for this very well reasoned perspective.</description>
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<p>It&#39;s always good to read someone who goes beyond the rhetoric of the day and has a sense of real consequences.  Thank you for this very well reasoned perspective.</p>
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