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		<title>By: Un-American? Protests are as American as Apple Pie (Guest Voice) &#124; Gadget Look</title>
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		<dc:creator>Un-American? Protests are as American as Apple Pie (Guest Voice) &#124; Gadget Look</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What a difference six months can make. In February, according to the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll, Obama enjoyed the approval of 65 percent of Americans. Now afRead more at http://themoderatevoice.com/43191/un-american-protests-are-as-american-as-apple-pie-guest-voice/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What a difference six months can make. In February, according to the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll, Obama enjoyed the approval of 65 percent of Americans. Now afRead more at <a href="http://themoderatevoice.com/43191/un-american-protests-are-as-american-as-apple-pie-guest-voice/" rel="nofollow">http://themoderatevoice.com/43191/un-american-protests-are-as-american-as-apple-pie-guest-voice/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TheMagicalSkyFather</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/43191/un-american-protests-are-as-american-as-apple-pie-guest-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-205163</link>
		<dc:creator>TheMagicalSkyFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>plumpplumberbalding- As a recovering libertarian that has finally accepted after 30 years of voting republican that they will do nothing but sell us further and further down the corporate river I no longer trust corporations with my health care.  Sadly my choices are them and to go without, feel the freedom!!  When I get to vote for a libertarian wake me up but a true libertarian would know that corporations are government inventions and just as bad as government but totally unaccountable to the citizenry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plumpplumberbalding- As a recovering libertarian that has finally accepted after 30 years of voting republican that they will do nothing but sell us further and further down the corporate river I no longer trust corporations with my health care.  Sadly my choices are them and to go without, feel the freedom!!  When I get to vote for a libertarian wake me up but a true libertarian would know that corporations are government inventions and just as bad as government but totally unaccountable to the citizenry.</p>
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		<title>By: plumpplumberbalding</title>
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		<dc:creator>plumpplumberbalding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 03:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re given the right of free speech for times like this. Obama is losing, and he knows it. The attempt to belittle the folks who are protesting is creating more protesters. The actual folks who pay the taxes are refusing to go along with a bill no one understands. Trying to shove this monstrosity thru on a panic mode ain&#039;t gonna happen. As a libertarian, I don&#039;t trust the government with my healthcare. Such power doesn&#039;t belong in government hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#39;re given the right of free speech for times like this. Obama is losing, and he knows it. The attempt to belittle the folks who are protesting is creating more protesters. The actual folks who pay the taxes are refusing to go along with a bill no one understands. Trying to shove this monstrosity thru on a panic mode ain&#39;t gonna happen. As a libertarian, I don&#39;t trust the government with my healthcare. Such power doesn&#39;t belong in government hands.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 01:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually make it a point to just never respond to Sil&#039;s lunatic rants and delusional ravings anymore, but let&#039;s use actual, real current data:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/15/obamas-push-health-care-reform-squander-political-capital/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;34 percent say they support current reform legislation, 49 percent now say they oppose it Aug 15)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1357&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;American voters disapprove 52 - 39 percent of the way President Obama is handling health care (Aug 5)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/090729_NBC-WSJ_poll.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;46 percent disapproved of Obama’s handling of health care reform, while 41 percent approved. (July 29)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/july_2009/53_now_oppose_congressional_health_care_reform&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;53% Now Oppose Congressional Health Care Reform (July 22)&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually make it a point to just never respond to Sil&#39;s lunatic rants and delusional ravings anymore, but let&#39;s use actual, real current data:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/15/obamas-push-health-care-reform-squander-political-capital/" rel="nofollow">34 percent say they support current reform legislation, 49 percent now say they oppose it Aug 15)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1357" rel="nofollow">American voters disapprove 52 &#8211; 39 percent of the way President Obama is handling health care (Aug 5)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/090729_NBC-WSJ_poll.pdf" rel="nofollow">46 percent disapproved of Obama’s handling of health care reform, while 41 percent approved. (July 29)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/july_2009/53_now_oppose_congressional_health_care_reform" rel="nofollow">53% Now Oppose Congressional Health Care Reform (July 22)</a></p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really?  I heard quite different statistics Gpt, from CBS news.  It runs 72% IN FAVOR of the PUBLIC OPTION.  &lt;br&gt;  &lt;br&gt;*******&lt;br&gt;Poll: No Dent In Obama&#039;s Popularity &lt;br&gt;(CBS)  A clear majority of Americans -- 72 percent -- support a government-sponsored health care plan to compete with private insurers, a new CBS News/New York Times poll finds. Most also think the government would do a better job than private industry at keeping down costs and believe that the government should guarantee health care for all Americans. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/19/opinion/polls/main5098517.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/19/opini...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;********&lt;br&gt;As of June 20, 2009.  That was about 7 weeks ago.  Now you want me to believe that in that seven weeks 72% of the public went from loving the idea clear down to 15% loving it with 85% hating it eh?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please do us all a favor and keep your &quot;manufactured information&quot; and put it where the sun doesn&#039;t shine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really?  I heard quite different statistics Gpt, from CBS news.  It runs 72% IN FAVOR of the PUBLIC OPTION.  </p>
<p>*******<br />Poll: No Dent In Obama&#39;s Popularity <br />(CBS)  A clear majority of Americans &#8212; 72 percent &#8212; support a government-sponsored health care plan to compete with private insurers, a new CBS News/New York Times poll finds. Most also think the government would do a better job than private industry at keeping down costs and believe that the government should guarantee health care for all Americans. <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/19/opinion/polls/main5098517.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/19/opini&#8230;</a><br />********<br />As of June 20, 2009.  That was about 7 weeks ago.  Now you want me to believe that in that seven weeks 72% of the public went from loving the idea clear down to 15% loving it with 85% hating it eh?</p>
<p>Please do us all a favor and keep your &#8220;manufactured information&#8221; and put it where the sun doesn&#39;t shine.</p>
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		<title>By: Gpt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gpt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real problem with health care as of now is illegal aliens use it for free , the phama companies have far too large a profit, way too much medicare fraud going on , and far too many frivilous law suits or just plain too much money awarded to plantiffs in health care cases.&lt;br&gt;Also we need all hospitals to go non profit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The last thing we need is a government that can&#039;t run social security, Freddie mac / Fannie may , the Postal service or Social Security to attempt to run health care.&lt;br&gt;We need the current administration to help with the economy but they seem to not give two chits about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real problem with health care as of now is illegal aliens use it for free , the phama companies have far too large a profit, way too much medicare fraud going on , and far too many frivilous law suits or just plain too much money awarded to plantiffs in health care cases.<br />Also we need all hospitals to go non profit.</p>
<p>The last thing we need is a government that can&#39;t run social security, Freddie mac / Fannie may , the Postal service or Social Security to attempt to run health care.<br />We need the current administration to help with the economy but they seem to not give two chits about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Gpt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gpt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>85% of  Americans do not want any form of governmentrun health care.&lt;br&gt;Obama and all the senators will still have their deluxe health coverage while the middle class gets the bill for illegal aliens (felons) and those that already suck off the government.&lt;br&gt;In return for paying higher taxes, the middle class will get sub standard rationed health care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>85% of  Americans do not want any form of governmentrun health care.<br />Obama and all the senators will still have their deluxe health coverage while the middle class gets the bill for illegal aliens (felons) and those that already suck off the government.<br />In return for paying higher taxes, the middle class will get sub standard rationed health care.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMagicalSkyFather</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMagicalSkyFather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hold it what legitimate concerns?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have heard about the socialism, which its not.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have heard about his birth place, which is not part of the health care debate.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have heard about the costs, even though they are paying for the costs unlike the Republican habit of the last few years of tacking it onto the debt.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So what &quot;legitimate&quot; concerns are you speaking of because I have yet to hear a legitimate argument short of &quot;the system works fine for me&quot; which is actually a rare sentiment in public but gets decent poll numbers.  The only concern I have heard about the bill is about the death panels which is mere propaganda and the Public Option which had around 70% public support last I checked.  So other than the Public Option what other concerns exist, please let me know I really want to know because it seems that we just do not like to have democrats pass legislation but costly legislation from republicans is just hunky dory, please let me know I am wrong and why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold it what legitimate concerns?  </p>
<p>I have heard about the socialism, which its not.  </p>
<p>I have heard about his birth place, which is not part of the health care debate.  </p>
<p>I have heard about the costs, even though they are paying for the costs unlike the Republican habit of the last few years of tacking it onto the debt.  </p>
<p>So what &#8220;legitimate&#8221; concerns are you speaking of because I have yet to hear a legitimate argument short of &#8220;the system works fine for me&#8221; which is actually a rare sentiment in public but gets decent poll numbers.  The only concern I have heard about the bill is about the death panels which is mere propaganda and the Public Option which had around 70% public support last I checked.  So other than the Public Option what other concerns exist, please let me know I really want to know because it seems that we just do not like to have democrats pass legislation but costly legislation from republicans is just hunky dory, please let me know I am wrong and why.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The coordinate efforts of MedMob to circulate flyers of Obama&#039;s face superimposed with the [now in reality] dead joker from the latest &quot;Batman&quot; are as american as Al Qaida.  Can you imagine the turmoil our nearly bankrupt country would be in if these usurpers actually succeeded in their attempts to instigate an assasination of our leader right now?  That is like pointing a gun at every person&#039;s head in the country simultaneously.   It is treason and attempted assasination to take advantage of and whip up irrational fears that are intended to result in our president&#039; [literally our collective] death.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m thinking that if Al Qaida itself didn&#039;t circulate those posters that they whispered in the ears of someone who did.  Are there any Al Qaida on staff of the MedMob movement?  How american are their efforts to divide and conquer our country?  I&#039;m thinking this anti-health movement has had some infiltrators that are way less american than I am comfortable with.  No patriot ever would seek to weaken a country on it&#039;s last leg.  So I&#039;m thinking there needs to be a cyber team working 24/7 to track down the source of these &quot;american apple pie&quot; death threats to our leaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The coordinate efforts of MedMob to circulate flyers of Obama&#39;s face superimposed with the [now in reality] dead joker from the latest &#8220;Batman&#8221; are as american as Al Qaida.  Can you imagine the turmoil our nearly bankrupt country would be in if these usurpers actually succeeded in their attempts to instigate an assasination of our leader right now?  That is like pointing a gun at every person&#39;s head in the country simultaneously.   It is treason and attempted assasination to take advantage of and whip up irrational fears that are intended to result in our president&#39; [literally our collective] death.  </p>
<p>I&#39;m thinking that if Al Qaida itself didn&#39;t circulate those posters that they whispered in the ears of someone who did.  Are there any Al Qaida on staff of the MedMob movement?  How american are their efforts to divide and conquer our country?  I&#39;m thinking this anti-health movement has had some infiltrators that are way less american than I am comfortable with.  No patriot ever would seek to weaken a country on it&#39;s last leg.  So I&#39;m thinking there needs to be a cyber team working 24/7 to track down the source of these &#8220;american apple pie&#8221; death threats to our leaders.</p>
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		<title>By: COACHEP &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Posts about Obama Health Care Failure as of August 15, 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>COACHEP &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Posts about Obama Health Care Failure as of August 15, 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You can’t do that either because you’re not allowed to ration (i.e., give less to more).   Un-American? Protests are as American as Apple Pie (Guest Voice) - themoderatevoice.com 08/15/2009 Guest Voice posts do not necessarily reflect the viewpoint of TMV [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] You can’t do that either because you’re not allowed to ration (i.e., give less to more).   Un-American? Protests are as American as Apple Pie (Guest Voice) &#8211; themoderatevoice.com 08/15/2009 Guest Voice posts do not necessarily reflect the viewpoint of TMV [...]</p>
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