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		<title>By: Capito, Rahall Split on Health Insurance Reform</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capito, Rahall Split on Health Insurance Reform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JoseHdez</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/42603/alternate-healthcare-bills-needed/comment-page-1/#comment-204103</link>
		<dc:creator>JoseHdez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great ideas, specially the proposal, borrow from Switzerland, of universal coverage but through public legislation requiring all private insurers to provide a minimum “public” health insurance plan to all citizens covering a specific list of treatments, drugs, etc.  But now the sticky question raises its ugly head, which is: Who defines what is &quot;minimum&quot;? If Congress is the final arbiter to this question, and history is a prelude to the future, it is predictable that this legislative body will respond to interest groups mandating coverage for benefits that consumer may not need or want but will have to pay for it. This esteemed legislative body will redefine the word “minimum” to the citizens detriment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great ideas, specially the proposal, borrow from Switzerland, of universal coverage but through public legislation requiring all private insurers to provide a minimum “public” health insurance plan to all citizens covering a specific list of treatments, drugs, etc.  But now the sticky question raises its ugly head, which is: Who defines what is &#8220;minimum&#8221;? If Congress is the final arbiter to this question, and history is a prelude to the future, it is predictable that this legislative body will respond to interest groups mandating coverage for benefits that consumer may not need or want but will have to pay for it. This esteemed legislative body will redefine the word “minimum” to the citizens detriment.</p>
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		<title>By: jonimp9</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/42603/alternate-healthcare-bills-needed/comment-page-1/#comment-202950</link>
		<dc:creator>jonimp9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CO, the stats you give actually say that all three (for, against, and unsure) are statistically insignificant, or equal in laymen&#039;s terms. From that poll we can only conclude that people are evenly divided into those three groups. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The key is to look at the margin of error which is plus or minus 4 points applied to each number. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The only conclusion I make from this is that there is a large portion of America who have yet to pick a side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CO, the stats you give actually say that all three (for, against, and unsure) are statistically insignificant, or equal in laymen&#39;s terms. From that poll we can only conclude that people are evenly divided into those three groups. </p>
<p>The key is to look at the margin of error which is plus or minus 4 points applied to each number. </p>
<p>The only conclusion I make from this is that there is a large portion of America who have yet to pick a side.</p>
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		<title>By: ginnymac</title>
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		<dc:creator>ginnymac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The story is everyone will be able to get insurance regardless of prexisting conditions and no one will have their insurance canceled for getting sick. So, you get insurance and a panel of &quot;experts&quot; in Washington decides no, you are really too old for chemotherapy; no, you have Alzheimers and a hip replacement would not be cost-effective, .... what good is having insurance?? If their plans are so wonderful, why have the authors made sure they themselves are exempted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The story is everyone will be able to get insurance regardless of prexisting conditions and no one will have their insurance canceled for getting sick. So, you get insurance and a panel of &#8220;experts&#8221; in Washington decides no, you are really too old for chemotherapy; no, you have Alzheimers and a hip replacement would not be cost-effective, &#8230;. what good is having insurance?? If their plans are so wonderful, why have the authors made sure they themselves are exempted?</p>
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		<title>By: casualobserver</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/42603/alternate-healthcare-bills-needed/comment-page-1/#comment-202499</link>
		<dc:creator>casualobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are now officially back into the minority view, guys. Sledding could be a bit uphill from here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Gallup Poll. Aug. 6-9, 2009. N=1,010 adults nationwide. MoE ± 4.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;      .&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&quot;Would you advise your member of Congress to vote for or against a health care reform bill when they return to Washington in September, or do you not have an opinion?&quot;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;      .&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;  For          Against               Unsure   &lt;br&gt;  %                %                       %   &lt;br&gt;                                                                     8/6-9/09&lt;br&gt; 35                36                        29</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are now officially back into the minority view, guys. Sledding could be a bit uphill from here.</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>Gallup Poll. Aug. 6-9, 2009. N=1,010 adults nationwide. MoE ± 4.</p>
<p>      .</p>
<p>&#8220;Would you advise your member of Congress to vote for or against a health care reform bill when they return to Washington in September, or do you not have an opinion?&#8221;</p>
<p>      .</p>
<p>  For          Against               Unsure   <br />  %                %                       %   <br />                                                                     8/6-9/09<br /> 35                36                        29</p>
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		<title>By: shannonlee</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/42603/alternate-healthcare-bills-needed/comment-page-1/#comment-202463</link>
		<dc:creator>shannonlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m personally against the bill because of a couple of things already stated.  This bill is watered down...it doesn&#039;t cover everyone and it going to cost a trillion dollars.  The CBR has already tanked anything we having going in the House right now.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If we are going to do this right, the public option has to be debated.  There are a lot of systems out there that work for a lot of people.  We have to be able to find one or tweak one that works for us.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Swiss like their health care, so do the French, Germans, Brits, ect....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m personally against the bill because of a couple of things already stated.  This bill is watered down&#8230;it doesn&#39;t cover everyone and it going to cost a trillion dollars.  The CBR has already tanked anything we having going in the House right now.  </p>
<p>If we are going to do this right, the public option has to be debated.  There are a lot of systems out there that work for a lot of people.  We have to be able to find one or tweak one that works for us.</p>
<p>The Swiss like their health care, so do the French, Germans, Brits, ect&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: HemmD</title>
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		<dc:creator>HemmD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that for Democrats to match the zeal and emotionalism of the Republicans, the public option has to be on the table.  Those on the left who actually would be willing to &quot;hit the streets&quot; for health care are laying back because their fundamental goal, a public system, has been nixed from the get go.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I mean really, how can you get excited by a process diluted in committee, watered down by blue dogs, and lied about by Republican and Democratic lobbied legislators alike?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Those at town halls screaming are factually wrong, but scared.  They over shout the details of an unclear bill proposal because they believe the lies told to them in simple terms.  Euthanasia, socialism, and abortion drive their enthusiasm.    Democrats can&#039;t point to such simple concepts when trying to make their case.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s ridiculous, but I would rather this health care bill as cobbled together goes down,  Only as prices continue to skyrocket and more people lose their houses to bankruptcy will the situation become clear to people, Clear and scary is how we persuade and govern in the US. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Currently, those who don&#039;t have insurance are for the bill and those who have insurance are against it.  I&#039;m sorry to say that it may take more people unprotected before health care change occurs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IMO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that for Democrats to match the zeal and emotionalism of the Republicans, the public option has to be on the table.  Those on the left who actually would be willing to &#8220;hit the streets&#8221; for health care are laying back because their fundamental goal, a public system, has been nixed from the get go.</p>
<p>I mean really, how can you get excited by a process diluted in committee, watered down by blue dogs, and lied about by Republican and Democratic lobbied legislators alike?</p>
<p>Those at town halls screaming are factually wrong, but scared.  They over shout the details of an unclear bill proposal because they believe the lies told to them in simple terms.  Euthanasia, socialism, and abortion drive their enthusiasm.    Democrats can&#39;t point to such simple concepts when trying to make their case.</p>
<p>It&#39;s ridiculous, but I would rather this health care bill as cobbled together goes down,  Only as prices continue to skyrocket and more people lose their houses to bankruptcy will the situation become clear to people, Clear and scary is how we persuade and govern in the US. </p>
<p>Currently, those who don&#39;t have insurance are for the bill and those who have insurance are against it.  I&#39;m sorry to say that it may take more people unprotected before health care change occurs.</p>
<p>IMO</p>
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