I have no reason to. I have been commenting on here for years and know that Joe Gandleman's guidelines include focusing on the issues at hand and not on other commenters.

Perhaps a little feedback would help you tone down your comments in order to be more respectful of others here.

Why don't you learn some etiquette before you come on a message board and discuss politics with a bunch of perfect strangers?
You might get you point across by informing me instead of insulting me.

Do you have any links to back this up, or is it just a rant?

Then there is the former Idiot in Chief former President George Walker Bush who had his daddy get him into the Texas Air National Guard ten days before he was to be drafted and to go serve his country in Vietnam. Then George Walker Bush was also suspended from flying in 1971 due to substance abuse as he was a cocaine addict and as well was AWOL from the last year of his Guard Service though he had his records destroyed when he was Governor of Texas. How did some one who should have been in prison in Leavenworth for being AWOL ever become President but when you are part of the Bush Crime Family anything goes.

Now to the other incident that raised some eyebrows. Remember back in April that unscheduled high-security clearance landing our president made in Bagdhad? Remember the report of a string of “seemingly coordinated bombings” http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idU… the day before he landed there? Al Qaida [one presumes] sure did come in handy back when Cheney was really pushing for a “need” for our continued presence there. And the security leaks between our intelligence and Al Qaidas sure was interesting.

Then just last night I was watching Greta Van Susteren on Cluster-Fox [kudos to Olbermann..lol..] interview the hopeful candidate for Iraqi leadership and how members of his family have been killed every time he tries to speak out for peace between his country and Iran. He was certain that iranians were behind the killings and when she questioned him how he could be sure, he said that the weapons used to kill various family members had earmarks of those types imported or used through Iran.

With all the funny business that goes on over there, and Cheney wanting a reason to f with Iran, this just seems like another all-too convenient rabbit popping out of the hole at just the right time for his agenda. Get the hopeful leader for a peaceful Iraq to believe he is under assault from Iran and get him to say that on public american venue..Fox the king of disinformation [Greta often an unwitting or begrudging accomplice] has this bit. I thought, “interesting”. So this guy is dead sure that it's iranian weaponry used to kill his family members and he concludes absolutely therefore that Iran is behind it all.

It could be. But then again it seems so damned convenient to anyone who might want anti-iranian sentiments fanned within the general american public. Cheney may be powerful and may escape justice on this side of the veil. I hope for his sake that he lives a very very long time because when it's time to face the justice that none of us will escape, there will be no buying-off that judge and jury.. *shudder*

Moderate on here just means that no one gets too angry about their views– it doesn't mean that everyone is a centrist. We get comments from all parts of the political spectrum.

And I agree with Sil that sometimes the right does try to pass the left's commentary off as far left wing nuttery- so that no one will believe it.

I do believe that Cheney came into office hoping to find a reason to invade Iraq- which is why the evidence was formed around the facts. He camped out at the CIA with Scooter and forced the investigators to interpret the evidence his way. Cheney wanted Iraq's oil and would have gone into Iran if it were up to him. He was as Biden said “the most dangerous VP in our history”.

I don't know if he had personal gain in mind– but I do think we should never elect two oil men to office- because we will end up at war. We should have been weaning ourselves off of foreign oil – but instead we failed in our attempts to remake the ME.

I doubt he will ever be brought to justice for anything — he is still too powerful.

“Axis of Evil”. Code for “countries with oil”? You see there are far more oil-poor countries who harbor anti-american sentiments and who abuse and murder their citizenry but we're not there are we? No oil, no evil.

If you're going to launch a bogus attack that favors some of your corporate buddies the last thing you would call it is “Operation Oil”….duh! You'd give it a catchy name that ropes in as many supporters as possible. Particularly if you're going to dip into the public coffers to fund your corporate takeover. This is how things are done in DC. If you spent a lot of time there you should know that?

I think I see where this is going. I'm making some good points but the ones I'm making about the Big Elephant in the living room [Iraq invasion for oil] is “way off base” nutty, conspiracy-theory, far fringe left. etc. etc. etc. Is that how we remake the obvious nowadays? lol… The obvious speaks for itself. There were no WOMDs. They lied.

Now ask yourself the question: “why did they lie”? And then plug in the facts about Iraq's oil reserves, Cheneyco's ties to BigOil and all the rest. Plug it in and answer the question yourselves.

I think you are missing the big picture. I was really paying attention back then, and live in the DC suburbs. Iraq was just supposed to be the beginning of the plan for regime change. Remember the Axis of Evil? Iran was supposed to be next. Bush and Cheney planned to remake the entire Mideast in our own image- or er sorry planned to “liberate” the entire Mideast. That was what alienated people like Sen Chuck Hagel who had seen combat and who thought they were totally on another planet.

It was justified in their minds by the actions of al queda and other extremist Muslim groups– and yes there were maps in Cheney's residence dividing up the oil rich regions among the multinationals.

I'm not saying that its not possible that it was a conspiracy– but I know that Bin Laden had spoken many times about how angry he was at the US and Israel for the bases in S.A., the subjugation of Palestinians and the death of a half a million Iraqi children due to US sanctions. I dont' see him making it all up for Poppy Bush and Cheney.

I my pedestrian post on Cheney's “Battlefield Exeperience,” about the most perspicacious (look it up, I did) words or terms I used to describe Cheney & Co, were: “The five-military-service-deferrals Dick Cheney,” and in a comment I described Colin Powell as “a great military leader.”

I had no idea that my post would evoke such an in-depth psychometric analysis of the Bush administration.

I thought it would be interesting to catalogue the various attributes ascribed to those characters.

George W. Bush: malignant narcissist, monopolistic profiteer, narso, sociopath, perfect self-absorbed idiot, head cowboy, dumbass…

Dick Cheney: 5-deferments chickehawk , malignant narcissist, Pol Pot, sociopath, apathic personality disorder, unpatritoc

Colin Powell: egomaniac, lying sac of sh*t, lil Eichman, no patriot, “virginal,” but also “basically good”

Condy Rice: “at first was evil…” ,”blind and stupid faithful republican,” loyalist

She came off the best

My way of thinking tells me that they, Cheneyco, figured that all they had to do was make cursory links to Saddam and Iraq via the ever slippery and convenient Al Qaida and a little lie about WOMDs and the otherwise complacent and easily duped american public would make little if any fuss about it. The trouble is that the internet got in their way. Seriously. I think those old codger's achilles' heel was that they simply had gotten away with this type of nonsense since even back before Vietnam [remember, Bush Sr.'s CIA hayday] and their top brass simply underestimated the finesse of the internet crowd to stay six steps ahead of their disinformation-campaign-as-usual.

I think it's that simple really. The internet screwed Cheney/BigOil's plans of tried-and-true simple deception. I remember back when CNN had intelligence PSYOPS people on staff. One of the things they were there to learn was how to interrupt broadcasts of satellite service….if memory serves..and that would include the internet. Remember, during the Cheneyco years the internet was still getting its footing as far as reaching mass numbers of the public. Not everyone was savvy and many still found getting their news here cumbersome and not the preference to the old monopolized news outets.

Now I'd say the majority of people use the internet daily and realize how easy it is to search subjects they're interested in and stumble across stuff they might never have before. Again, I really think the internet is the David and good old covert ops the Giant Ogre.

There is a lot of coincidence— but as much as I dislike Cheney, I don't believe that he planned 9/11. It was very strange to me that he kept pointing to Iraq, though it was the Saudis who were responsible. I would like to see an investigation on the decision to invade Iraq- because Cheney and Rummy are too smart to screw up that badly.

Those are the people who ran the country for 8 years. Dubya and the rest? Nah, they just thought they did. Cheney is good at what he does. I'll hand him that. And it's so outrageous that the beauty of it is that being unbelievable, no one will believe it, lest they risk being called “a conspiracy theorist” and wear the unfortunate garb that goes along with that label.

Fortunately I could give a rat's ass. I like getting to the bottom of things.

It's like the GOP is one big narcissistic unit if you think about how well that shoe fits..