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		<title>By: ehcanada</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/42437/reading-incomprehension-strikes-the-palin-faithful/comment-page-1/#comment-202004</link>
		<dc:creator>ehcanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P. T. Barnum and H. L. Mencken both covered this well.  Barnum&#039;s &quot;a sucker is born every minute&quot; (probably every nano second now).  Mr. Mencken said something like &quot;no one ever went broke betting on the stupidity of the American public&quot;.  My opinion is that both were absolutely correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P. T. Barnum and H. L. Mencken both covered this well.  Barnum&#39;s &#8220;a sucker is born every minute&#8221; (probably every nano second now).  Mr. Mencken said something like &#8220;no one ever went broke betting on the stupidity of the American public&#8221;.  My opinion is that both were absolutely correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Corley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/42437/reading-incomprehension-strikes-the-palin-faithful/comment-page-1/#comment-201855</link>
		<dc:creator>Corley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the government take over of the health care system. End of life care is part of Health Care. That is what you want to look for. &quot;End of Life Care&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Seeing how rationing will be taking place on how to cut costs. End of Life care (see, there is that phrase again) for the elderly and infirmed will come down to How Much It Will Cost Per Day. Is it that much of a stretch to wonder if Obamacare will want to pull the plug on patients sooner rather than later?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve seen Death Panels elsewhere on the nets too, before Gov. Palin used it. But I&#039;m sure a thorough researcher would have found that out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nice quibble about the usage of the lexicon, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s the government take over of the health care system. End of life care is part of Health Care. That is what you want to look for. &#8220;End of Life Care&#8221;.</p>
<p>Seeing how rationing will be taking place on how to cut costs. End of Life care (see, there is that phrase again) for the elderly and infirmed will come down to How Much It Will Cost Per Day. Is it that much of a stretch to wonder if Obamacare will want to pull the plug on patients sooner rather than later?  </p>
<p>I&#39;ve seen Death Panels elsewhere on the nets too, before Gov. Palin used it. But I&#39;m sure a thorough researcher would have found that out.</p>
<p>Nice quibble about the usage of the lexicon, however.</p>
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		<title>By: JimTreacher</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/42437/reading-incomprehension-strikes-the-palin-faithful/comment-page-1/#comment-201721</link>
		<dc:creator>JimTreacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting fact-checked by Maureen Dowd is like having Stevie Wonder critique your outfit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting fact-checked by Maureen Dowd is like having Stevie Wonder critique your outfit.</p>
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		<title>By: narciso</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/42437/reading-incomprehension-strikes-the-palin-faithful/comment-page-1/#comment-201567</link>
		<dc:creator>narciso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you read the bill, particularly pg 425-6, 52, 16, 19, et al; then come up with a better argument, Arguing from faith doesn&#039;t help your cause</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you read the bill, particularly pg 425-6, 52, 16, 19, et al; then come up with a better argument, Arguing from faith doesn&#39;t help your cause</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/42437/reading-incomprehension-strikes-the-palin-faithful/comment-page-1/#comment-201541</link>
		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest boost to Obama&#039;s healthcare initiative this August has been the nutjobs. They have completely obfuscated the legitimate questions and discredited the whole conservative opposition.  Instead of talking about whether or not proposals to increase coverage will also increase costs - and for whom - we are laughing at conspiracy-minded morons who compare Obama to Hitler and political has-beens conjuring up death panels. At first I thought Obama was in trouble this month with all the teabaggers lined up for war. Instead, Obama just ju-jitsued his opposition. Again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest boost to Obama&#39;s healthcare initiative this August has been the nutjobs. They have completely obfuscated the legitimate questions and discredited the whole conservative opposition.  Instead of talking about whether or not proposals to increase coverage will also increase costs &#8211; and for whom &#8211; we are laughing at conspiracy-minded morons who compare Obama to Hitler and political has-beens conjuring up death panels. At first I thought Obama was in trouble this month with all the teabaggers lined up for war. Instead, Obama just ju-jitsued his opposition. Again.</p>
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		<title>By: skylights</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/42437/reading-incomprehension-strikes-the-palin-faithful/comment-page-1/#comment-201473</link>
		<dc:creator>skylights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Palin is an astoundingly bad politician and I continue to be amazed by her popularity.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not surprised at all. I&#039;ve long contended that about 85% of the American public is comprised of imbeciles. Palin&#039;s fans and supporters come entirely from this large segment of society. They like Palin because she is like them, and she gives a loud, proud voice to their stupidity.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The rest of these ignoramuses either didn&#039;t vote, or voted for Obama, despite his intelligence and learning. Luckily, some morons want someone smarter than them to be their leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Palin is an astoundingly bad politician and I continue to be amazed by her popularity.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#39;m not surprised at all. I&#39;ve long contended that about 85% of the American public is comprised of imbeciles. Palin&#39;s fans and supporters come entirely from this large segment of society. They like Palin because she is like them, and she gives a loud, proud voice to their stupidity.</p>
<p>The rest of these ignoramuses either didn&#39;t vote, or voted for Obama, despite his intelligence and learning. Luckily, some morons want someone smarter than them to be their leader.</p>
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		<title>By: smitty1e</title>
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		<dc:creator>smitty1e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t illiteracy be the limit as reading comprehension goes to zero?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#39;t illiteracy be the limit as reading comprehension goes to zero?</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/42437/reading-incomprehension-strikes-the-palin-faithful/comment-page-1/#comment-201397</link>
		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smitty, Smitty, Smitty. By definition, illiterate people can not have reading comprehension problems, silly. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smitty, Smitty, Smitty. By definition, illiterate people can not have reading comprehension problems, silly. <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: smitty1e</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/42437/reading-incomprehension-strikes-the-palin-faithful/comment-page-1/#comment-201364</link>
		<dc:creator>smitty1e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Response from alleged illiterate &lt;a href=&quot;http://rsmccain.blogspot.com/2009/08/jazz-shaw-i-think-were-talking-past.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response from alleged illiterate <a href="http://rsmccain.blogspot.com/2009/08/jazz-shaw-i-think-were-talking-past.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>, sir.</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/42437/reading-incomprehension-strikes-the-palin-faithful/comment-page-1/#comment-201336</link>
		<dc:creator>StockBoySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concerning Palin&#039;s lies from her Facebook post, I wrote this in response to a fellow commenter...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As Maureen Dowd put it in today&#039;s column: &quot;...she [Palin] put up a demented, fact-free Facebook rant trashing the president’s health care plan....&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Fact-free&quot; seems so non-confrontational, yet snarky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning Palin&#39;s lies from her Facebook post, I wrote this in response to a fellow commenter&#8230;</p>
<p>As Maureen Dowd put it in today&#39;s column: &#8220;&#8230;she [Palin] put up a demented, fact-free Facebook rant trashing the president’s health care plan&#8230;.&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Fact-free&#8221; seems so non-confrontational, yet snarky.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/42437/reading-incomprehension-strikes-the-palin-faithful/comment-page-1/#comment-201322</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 18:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sara Palin will fit in nicely next to the Glenn Beck Show on Fox. A rodeo clown and moose hunter on Fox, but no &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amconmag.com/larison/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Larison&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amconmag.com/schwenkler/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Schwenkler&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara Palin will fit in nicely next to the Glenn Beck Show on Fox. A rodeo clown and moose hunter on Fox, but no <a href="http://www.amconmag.com/larison/" rel="nofollow">Larison</a> or <a href="http://www.amconmag.com/schwenkler/" rel="nofollow">Schwenkler</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Pug</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/42437/reading-incomprehension-strikes-the-palin-faithful/comment-page-1/#comment-201318</link>
		<dc:creator>Pug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 18:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah should apply for health insurance for her son with any private carrier.  Then she will know where the real &quot;death panels&quot; are.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This woman is beyond clueless.  And proud of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah should apply for health insurance for her son with any private carrier.  Then she will know where the real &#8220;death panels&#8221; are.</p>
<p>This woman is beyond clueless.  And proud of it.</p>
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		<title>By: johncarpenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>johncarpenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 18:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re DaGoat: Palin is an astoundingly bad politician and I continue to be amazed by her popularity.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yeah. And Obama is Disraeli. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you&#039;re amazed now, you might start taking preemptive measures to minimize your vertigo after Roger Ailes gets a year or so to do his Henry Higgins job on her.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Google it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re DaGoat: Palin is an astoundingly bad politician and I continue to be amazed by her popularity.</p>
<p>Yeah. And Obama is Disraeli. </p>
<p>If you&#39;re amazed now, you might start taking preemptive measures to minimize your vertigo after Roger Ailes gets a year or so to do his Henry Higgins job on her.</p>
<p>Google it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Beasley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/42437/reading-incomprehension-strikes-the-palin-faithful/comment-page-1/#comment-201263</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Beasley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most amazing thing about Palin&#039;s comment is that the &quot;death panels&quot; at the private insurance companies have already written off her Down Syndrome baby. If she gets insurance it will have to be through Medicade, yes, a &quot;socialist&quot; progam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most amazing thing about Palin&#39;s comment is that the &#8220;death panels&#8221; at the private insurance companies have already written off her Down Syndrome baby. If she gets insurance it will have to be through Medicade, yes, a &#8220;socialist&#8221; progam.</p>
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		<title>By: DaGoat</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaGoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palin is an astoundingly bad politician and I continue to be amazed by her popularity.  Her portrayal of the &quot;death squads&quot; is either intentionally misleading or really ignorant.  There are plenty of things to criticize in the health care proposals and there is no need to make things up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Looking at the actual proposal to pay for end-of-life counseling (assuming this is what Palin is talking about - who knows), I am a little surprised it&#039;s even in the bill.   Normally the AMA and Medicare revise CPT codes annually, and this is the kind of thing that usually gets done at the yearly revision.  If it had been done that way I doubt anyone would have noticed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I understand it correctly it essentially formalizes a way for doctors to get reimbursed for end-of-life counseling, which generally is talking about living will topics like whether people want to be on a ventilator, do they want feeding tubes, etc.  Actually doctors can already get reimbursed for this sort of thing, they just have to code the visit based on time and link it to any disease diagnosis the patient might have, such as diabetes, heart disease, whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palin is an astoundingly bad politician and I continue to be amazed by her popularity.  Her portrayal of the &#8220;death squads&#8221; is either intentionally misleading or really ignorant.  There are plenty of things to criticize in the health care proposals and there is no need to make things up.</p>
<p>Looking at the actual proposal to pay for end-of-life counseling (assuming this is what Palin is talking about &#8211; who knows), I am a little surprised it&#39;s even in the bill.   Normally the AMA and Medicare revise CPT codes annually, and this is the kind of thing that usually gets done at the yearly revision.  If it had been done that way I doubt anyone would have noticed.</p>
<p>If I understand it correctly it essentially formalizes a way for doctors to get reimbursed for end-of-life counseling, which generally is talking about living will topics like whether people want to be on a ventilator, do they want feeding tubes, etc.  Actually doctors can already get reimbursed for this sort of thing, they just have to code the visit based on time and link it to any disease diagnosis the patient might have, such as diabetes, heart disease, whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Palin Facebook &#124; All Days Long</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Palin Facebook &#124; All Days Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Reading Incomprehension Strikes the Palin Faithful The Moderate Voice I wholeheartedly agree that this statement by Sarah Palin on her Facebook page is unconscionable, outrageous, and either a deliberate lie, or proof that she &#8230;  See all stories on this topic [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Reading Incomprehension Strikes the Palin Faithful The Moderate Voice I wholeheartedly agree that this statement by Sarah Palin on her Facebook page is unconscionable, outrageous, and either a deliberate lie, or proof that she &#8230;  See all stories on this topic [...]</p>
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