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Consensus, Not Oversight

Earlier this week, CIA director Leon Panetta advised us that we all need to stop worrying about war crimes of the past (our past), put CIA black sites and “ ‘enhanced’ interrogation techniques” behind us, and move on. (After all, the CIA was just following orders only “implements presidential decisions”; it “does not make them.”)

So, in Mr. Panetta’s honor, here are two blog posts — also from earlier this week — written by Glenn Greenwald. The first, dated July 30, concerns repeated threats made by the Obama administration to “cut off intelligence-sharing programs with the U.K. if the British High Court discloses information which British intelligence officials learned from the CIA about how [Binyam] Mohamed [a former Gitmo detainee and a British citizen] was tortured.” (Emphasis is Glenn’s.)

In August 2008, the British High Court ruled in Mohamed’s favor, concluding in a 75-page ruling (.pdf) that there was credible evidence in Britain’s possession that Mohamed was brutally tortured and was therefore entitled to disclosure of that evidence under long-standing principles of British common law, international law (as established by the Nuremberg Trials and the war crimes trials of Yugoslav leaders, among others), and Britain’s treaty obligations (under the Convention Against Torture).  But as part of that ruling, the Court redacted from its public decision seven paragraphs which detailed the facts of Mohamed’s torture — facts which British intelligence agents learned from the CIA — based on the British Government’s representations that both the Bush and Obama administrations had threatened to cut off intelligence-sharing with Britain if those facts were disclosed, even as part of a court proceeding.

The British government’s claims about these threats led the British High Court to conclude that it could not disclose those facts in good conscience because the U.S. was, in essence, threatening to put the lives of British citizens at risk by terminating intelligence-sharing over terrorist threats. …

The second, from the next day, July 31, is about two more Gitmo detainees who have been ordered released by federal judges following habeus review of their cases:

This week, two more Guantanamo detainees — Khaled Al-Mutairi from Kuwait and Mohamed Jawad of Afghanistan — were ordered released by federal judges on the ground that there was insufficient evidence to justify their detention.  The Washington Independent’s Daphne Eviatar notes this amazing fact: ”In 28 of 33 Gitmo detainee cases heard so far, federal judges have found insufficient evidence to support keeping them in prison.”  Virtually all of those detainees were held for many years without charges and with no opportunity for judicial review.  Once they finally got into a court, federal judges (including Bush-43 appointed judges) in the vast majority of cases concluded there was virtually no credible evidence ever to justify their detention. …

Finally, Marcy Wheeler has a direct response to Panetta’s op-ed that is well-worth your time:

Remember when the Obama Administration appealed to a “fundamental compact” between Congress and the Executive Branch when arguing the intelligence community didn’t need more oversight? (”Fundamental compact, my ass,” I thought was the best response.)

Well, Leon Panetta’s out with a similar appeal to inflated, but totally bogus, language in an attempt to avoid increased Congressional oversight. This time, he appeals to “consensus” as the core of congressional oversight.
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The last eight years have proven that Congress is utterly impotent to stop covert actions the Executive Branch wants to do. Congress’ unsuccessful attempt to stop the data-mining of American citizens by defunding it proves that point. And other tactics used by the Bush Administration–such as funding covert activities in supplemental appropriations or having JSOC carry out those activities instead of CIA, both to completely side-step the intelligence committees’ oversight–further proves Congress’ utter impotence to influence Executive Branch activities.

So when Panetta appeals to consensus as a cornerstone of oversight, when he says “we need broad agreement,” he’s basically saying, “Congress must agree with the Executive Branch.” “Deteriorating consensus,” in this context, is just a pretty way of saying “blowing off Congress” in the face of opposition. When Panetta suggests there needs to be a “balance between appropriate oversight and a recognition that the security of the United States depends on a CIA that is totally focused,” he’s basically arguing that oversight must stop short of actually criticizing CIA, however merited.

  • Father_Time
    The thing is, Leon Panetta is one of the most reliably honest and forthright people on this planet. If I had to risk my life on what Leon Panetta said, it would not worry me much. Clearly he is warning us of more serious repercussions if there is further pursuit of torture-gate. As much as I hate to say it, international alliances may prove to be far more important in the future than humanitarian treaties to the United States.

    There is no comparison with U.S. water-boarding torture and the death of, (how many captives?), with the Yugoslav combatant’s blatant murder of thousands of unarmed civilians. Not fair to compare these even if the same point of law was broken in each set of circumstances.

    I want my pound of flesh out of the Bush-Cheney regime for what they did in my name and what it has done to our country, but I’m not willing to sacrifice the good graces of Great Briton, our closest and most beloved ally, on principal.
  • johnglad
    You've got to be kidding me. Panetta is no more or less reliable than any other politician. You'd trust him with your life? I wouldn't trust him with my wallet. He may be sincere in his declamations and defense of the Agency, but his opinions are only as valid as the information he's being given. The Agency is hardly going to tell him anything other than they are indispensible, infallible, and incredibly demoralized by ... well, everything demoralizes the Agency, according to their media flacks and stable of always-unnamed, long-experienced, retired officers. My own experience suggests that there are a few good ones, always deeply buried, and the HQ sh*theads are devoted to flex time and generating reports that "slam dunk" the "truth."
  • Silhouette
    If we don't punish people guilty of crimes then other people soon to replace them will see that corruption goes unpunished. The situation will get worse and worse until we have a regime like Iran. We may have already. The CIA pulls way too may strings. It's way too big for its britches as it is.

    We want Dick Cheney and Dubya put on trial. It's as simple as that.
  • DLS
    As I correctly wrote earlier, in earlier, more-mainstream-oriented days, liberal Democrat Obama actually put a muzzle on the worst of the extremists in power in Washington, his fellow and worse lib Dems, most notably the Bush-Cheney demented revanchists (as far from the mainstream as it is in US politics now).
  • DarthLoki
    George W. Bush and the C.I.A.

    George W. Bush used the people's and the congresses belief that all presidents have the integrity to separate defense of country, from defense of politics. He bullied the congress into accepting his viewpoint. The congress would back down, believing that no one who had been elected president could so blatantly lie and distort the facts. Bush's lies are still being defended to this day.

    The CIA has problems and they should be addressed, but Congress must accept that it was deceived and made a fool of by George W. Bush. Congressional oversight of the CIA really became CIA oversight of the CIA during the Bush Administration. Porter Goss, a former CIA operative, was the head of the House Intelligence Committee before becoming head of the CIA. The CIA's man in the U. S. Senate (Bill Nelson D-Fl), in a rare show of non-partisanship, immediately supported the republican Goss's nomination. The CIA penetration of the House and and Senate allowed it to disrupt, divide, and lie to the Senate and Congressional committees. With the blessings of the Bush administration the CIA wouldn't have to worry about any non-Bushies looking over their shoulders.

    Most of the CIA leadership was smart enough not to have anything to do with the Bushies, but a few did come forward and offered up their souls to the Bushies. These are the people who are fighting any investigation within the CIA. All the power that they had accumulated during the Bush administration would be lost. They could find themselves at the mercy of the laws and the people that they had stepped on in getting to their present positions.

    Congress must face the fact that they had been fooled and that the soldiers in intelligence community were doing what they were told to do. Congress must now take the difficult road of investigating and prosecuting the people who gave those orders. Some suggestions: George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, David Addington, Alberto Gonzales, Douglas Feith, John Yoo and Jay S. Bybee.

    P.S. Did I mention that the CIA's man in the U. S. Senate (Bill Nelson D-Fl) said Leon Panetta was a close friend.
  • Robert61
    Very enjoyable site, The Moderate Voice is. I ran across it on my DECLASSIFIED SECRETS site where I have daily updated newspaper and journal pieces about the CIA in general, black ops, etc. As a member of the Association of Former Intelligence Officers (AFIO), I will bookmark this site. Robert
    www.declassifiedsecrets.blogspot.com/
  • Robert61
    Nice discussion here. As a member of the Association of Former Intelligence Officers (AFIO), I write on my DECLASSIFIED SECRETS site that most intelligence failures are policy failures by some of our policy makers. Cherry-picking during the "W" era simply meant the administration ignored the intelligence collection, analysis and subsequent recommendations. It's one thing for our White House policy makers to simply read NIE's and daily briefs, then ignore them...not against the law. It's another to send Cheney over to make dozens of unprecedented visits to the CIA HQ in Langley and threaten lower and middle-level managers, thus debauching heretofore accurate intelligence estimates, making them perverted and warped into what the White House needed to support its invasion of Iraq..against the law.

    The Iraq invasion was not an intelligence failure, it was a policy failure...and young men and women continue to die years after. Visit my DECLASSIFIED SECRETS site and I'd enjoy hearing your opinions.
    www.declassifiedsecrets.blogspot.com/
  • keelaay
    The CIA, our CIA, my CIA, has lied, deceived, and even tortured??? I am shocked, SHOCKED!!

    Spare us the hand-wringing please. The CIA is a spy organization -- it infiltrates sovereign foreign governments via covert operations. Think about that for a minute. It is organized to operate outside the rule of international and sovereign law. What has been the inevitable outcome of this charter? For starters, our CIA has assisted in and enabled the assassination of democratically elected foreign heads of state. Many to ruinous consequence. That's not only against the laws of those nations, but our own. Given their mission to work outside the laws of sovereign nations, why in the world would anyone suppose the CIA would necessarily respect the laws of the United States? They respect one law -- their own. Don't get me wrong -- I am not arguing that all intelligence officers are criminals. But it should come as no surprise when an organization sanctioned to break laws of other nations breaks our own. Call it collateral damage if it makes you feel any better.
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