The bogus arguments involved have been laid to rest elsewhere, already. Now a real amendment, on the other hand, ratified and all, would settle this, as well as be remarkably refreshing from Washington and a completely alternative universe from what we face with the Democrats there now.

Actually, specifically, they claimed earlier to intend to reform entitlements (which they robotically as well as rabidly opposed during the Bush years, with no alternative offered at that time to the issue, which was to save Social Security and Medicare and make them sustainable, finally), yet specifically, this, the first logical thing for them to do (especially during a recession, which they profess to be on track to “cure”), has (along initially with paying the costs of this new health care initiative) has been deliberately _avoided_.

And, of course, they're not “repairing” it, but _replacing_ it (replacing private with public health care in the incrementalist form they've currently strived hurriedly to concoct). Their ineptitude as well as dishonesty, frequently, as well as deliberate evasion at the start of costs and payment for this have been a greater source of ever-growing widespread public concern than the transparent nature (the lies about which only the most stupid or “faithful” are willing to believe) of their incrementalist shift from private to public care.

Who is designing and who is managing this cooperative? Whose idea is this?

(That was too easy. No need to address the other emotional stuff… [sigh])

The fact is, the most gullible are the most fervent remaining core of “challenged” people who actually want this current initiative passed, and are upset at the slightest lack of idiotic charging “forward” [sic], or loss of “momentum,” on this (and to a similar extent, on other, earlier Dem initiatives), no matter what concerns more intelligent people have had all along with it; the most gullible people actually want _anything_ passed that has “health care” as its subject and is written by the activist Dems, and purports to give people something.

Obviously the result is increased federal intervention in, and provision of, health care, no matter in what name or form. Even the Republicans are largely conceding this trend (which, despite the silliness of the current Dem initiative's remaining “challenged” fervent proponents, is not limited only to it), despite very strong legitimate concerns with this current initiative.

This initiative, and any better substitutes later or follow-ups later, is all about increased federal health care interventionism and entitlement creation. (Libs and Dems have contempt for constitutional federalism and I doubt they've thought for one instant about any initiatives by state and local governments instead of by Washington instead. “Why waste time or trouble on the irrelevent?”)

The proponents want more entitlements, anyway, not even bothering to concern themselves with the costs (which they'll expect magically to be paid by Others somehow, if they ever think about it later); do you believe they, or the Dems in Washington, will ever address and work on entitlement reform?

Makes one wonder how any brakes can be put on a downwardly mobile status quo when we have a citizenry so gullible and stupid as to believe every cock and bull story they have put before them. Good grief…

Use the right to bear arms against the GOP. Watch as they gyrate between the right to defend ones life by bearing arms and their insistance on removing that right at their whim. That should be entertaining…

*pops popcorn*..