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The Markets Recovering, But Rush Still Hoping

Sorry, Rush.

Very sorry that your market investments (I am sure you have one or two) have risen in value by about 10 percent if tracked by the DJIA, and by about 30 percent according to the NASDAQ composite, since the day president Obama took the economic disaster over from Mr. Bush

Actually, since the market lows in early March 2009, those two indices have risen a whopping 34 percent and 55 percent, respectively. What a bummer.

Across the board, all kinds of market records were broken today.

As we are nearing the market closing hour, these are some of the headlines screaming across the various business cable channels:

NASDAQ longest winning streak since 1992

NASDAQ up for highest close since early October

S&P and Dow tracking for highest close since early November

NASDAQ, S&P 500 on pace for fifth consecutive monthly gains

NASDAQ up 13% over 11 days

(An encouraging side note to Rush: There are still 20 minutes to go till closing, things could still go to hell in a hand basket)

And more bad news. Just three days ago, those “eggheads” over at Goldman Sachs were bullish on the markets, commenting on what they see as a three-pronged approach to the market recovering from the financial crisis—“Pop, Stall, & Sustained recovery”:

We have experienced the brief euphoric one-month “pop” phase of the typical equity market recovery from a bear market low (27% rally from 667 to 850), endured the characteristic several-month long range-bound “stall” period (10% range from 850 to 940), and now we anticipate a more extended “sustained rally” in the U.S. equity market during the second-half of 2009.

What do they know.

But wait, there is some good news, a glimmer of hope even here. The Wall Street Journal, has the following qualifier:

There are risks to Goldman’s call. And the biggie is the U.S. economy, what with higher savings, falling wage growth, the housing bust, state and local cutbacks and fading stimulus. Goldman scribes say, “although earnings, valuation, and money flow offer support to our view that the S&P 500 will experience a more sustained rally during the second-half of 2009, the fourth pillar of our analysis — the U.S. economy — is the shakiest part of the foundation.”

Ahh, that fourth pillar to the rescue, Rush.

Also, sorry Rush. home resales in the U.S. rose in June for a third consecutive month, spurred by tax incentives, lower borrowing costs and foreclosure-driven declines in prices.

According to Bloomberg.com, “[Home] Purchases climbed 3.6 percent to an annual rate of 4.89 million, stronger than forecast and the highest level since October, the National Association of Realtors said today in Washington.”

And, again, that liberal rag, the Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday that, according to the Conference Board, the U.S. index of leading economic indicators rose 0.7% in June, the third straight monthly gain, “signaling that a recovery is likely in the second half of the year.” And, “Over the past six months, the index has improved at a 4.1% annual rate, up sharply from a negative 6.2% rate in the prior six months. This is the fastest pace since the first quarter of 2006.”

And, more heresy, “The trend is consistent with a slow recovery this autumn, according to Ken Goldstein, an economist at the Conference Board” and “‘The unqualified jump in the index holds out hope that the upturn is not far away,’ said Joel Naroff, president of Naroff Economic Advisors.”

Also in the WSJ:

Seven of the 10 indicators increased in June. The positive contributors — beginning with the largest positive contributor — were interest-rate spread, building permits, stock prices, weekly initial claims, average weekly manufacturing hours, index of supplier deliveries, and manufacturers’ new orders for consumer goods and materials.

But, Rush, fortunately, of the 10 indicators there were three negative indicators: real money supply, manufacturers’ new orders for nondefense capital goods.

Rush, don’t despair, there are still some glimmers of hope. For example, here’s a big one:

The Labor Department earlier today reported that first-time applications for jobless benefits climbed by 30,000 to 554,000 in the week ended July 18.

And remember, the market is not a good indicator of the economy, or of its recovery; its daily ups and downs are “fleeting” and “meaningless,” even if these fleeting ups-and-downs are steadily trending upwards, and the upward trends “only” last for five or six months.

Hope springs eternal, Rush. We are only six months into fixing an 8-year economic disaster, and anything can still happen. Your wish, “Not only do I want Obama to fail, I want this package to fail. I want this to blow up in their face. .. blow everything to smithereens…” could still come true. Keep hope alive…

  • DdW
    "We have had this conversation in the past, the daily movement of the DOW are meaningless. "

    Yes, I remember, for about four months, during which time those meaningless daily movements of the Dow and other market indices have resulted in the almost doubling of one index (the NASDAQ composite) and a whopping 34 % in the Dow since their lows this year in March.

    I guess one could call them meaningless.

    I guess tomorrow we could be back to the levels of early March.

    I guess the economy could still get much worse.

    I agree that our economic recovery still has a long way to go, that uneployment continues to rise and that people are still suffering...just pointing out some positive indicators
  • jchem
    I agree fully with DQ. Here in South Carolina, our unemployment is 12.1%, and I will guarantee you none of those folks could give a rat's rear what's going on with the DOW. Perhaps their is a correlation here. Jwest made a great point up above--these companies are shedding employees fast enough that they are able to keep the profit machine going. Now that's something to celebrate
  • Don Quijote
    We have had this conversation in the past, the daily movement of the DOW are meaningless. Do not judge the economy, or the success of an economic policy by looking at the DOW. The Dow has damn near nothing to do with the economic experiences of the vast majorities of Americans.

    Until our balance of trade, our health-care costs, our military spending, our deficits and the distribution of income/wealth are brought under control, the economy is going to keep going down the crapper.

    And I don't expect Obama to fix any of these problems.
  • StockBoySF
    casualobserver: "Well, it certainly had nothing to do with Obama and his policies, if that were to be anyone's contention."

    Yes, I'm sure all the Republicans would agree with you. These are the same Republicans who started saying in November, right after Obama was elected, that the reason the stock market went down was because everyone (whatever that meant) was afraid of what Obama would do.

    These are the same Republicans who blamed the stock market drop on Obama once he was in office and the market continued to plunge. These are the same Republicans who pointed to the markets falling in January and Feb. as proof that Obama's stimulus package would not work.... When that stimulus package had not even been voted on yet, and the money distributed.

    Yes. Now that Obama has been in office a while, the stimulus package money has been introduced into the economy and the market is up quite a bit, it's not because of anything Obama did. The market is up for other reasons..... Having nothing to do with Obama.

    Either one believes the president has some power over the market or not. Republicans like to have it both ways. Blame Obama when things go wrong but give no credit to Obama when things improve.

    That aside..... I do agree with Austin that the stock market and the economy are two different things. Personally I feel that we're not out of the woods yet and the market will go down again.

    But I'm not concerned over momentary swings of the market. What's more important to me is the unemployment rate and getting people back to work. Once that happens, then the gains of the market will be gains based on a solid foundation, and not momentary gains based on people's perception on what is happening at the moment. Obama's mantra should be: jobs, jobs, jobs.
  • mlhradio
    Don't count your chickens before they hatch. The market has fluctuated greatly before, and it will again. Don't get me wrong - happy to see things pointing in the right direction. It is doing great today, but all it takes is one major unexpected event to cause a shock to the system and watch those indices fall. A few months of good news is just that -- good news, but hardly enough to qualify as a recovery. If things are still doing great a year from today, then in hindsight we can look back at how Obama was able to save the world economy from the disastrous Bush Depression. But for now -- way too soon to pat ourselves on the back. Yet.
  • AustinRoth
    Let's not mix up the performance of the markets, which are positive, with the economy itself, which continues to perform poorly.

    That said, as I have said before, the market tends towards a 6 month leading indicator, so it is promising news. I still believe that this is going to be a fairly jobless recovery for longer than that, though, given the state of the credit markets.
  • DdW
    co:

    Let me ask you, it the markets had crashed today, would that have had something "to do with Obama"?
  • casualobserver
    Well, it certainly had nothing to do with Obama and his policies, if that were to be anyone's contention.
  • DdW
    Yeah, the markets have, for over four consecutive months, been "outperforming some truly ruinous predictions, so it is better than expected." Yeah, that's the explanation for the markets performing better than expected...
  • jwest
    DaGoat,

    Exactly right. The market is outperforming some truly ruinous predictions, so it is better than expected.

    Companies that shed employees normally experience short term earnings gains and a rise in their stock prices. It’s basic cost cutting to improve profits.

    The trend line looks like Wall Street will be back to paying exceptional bonuses while unemployment reaches the low teens by the midterm elections next year. I expect the bond traders to vote heavily Democratic……..

    For the rest of the voters – not so much.
  • StockBoySF
    The Obama opposers can't use the economy against Obama (at the moment). So now they are focusing their scare tactics around healthcare.

    The Republicans understand that the best way to rally their supporters is to have an enemy.

    Their scare tactics were wrong under eight years of Bush/Cheney and their scare tactics continue to be wrong today.

    I'm amazed that more hasn't been made of DeMint's comment about wanting to bring Obama down.... If the Dems has said anything remotely similar about Bush, every Republican from Limbaugh to Bush woudl have called the Dems unpatriotic. Actually.... Rush would have called such people terrorists and terrorists sympathizers.
  • PWT
    Is there any possible motivation behind Goldman's upbeat market call? Perhaps they'd like to clear out some positions before it drops off again? Sell-side analysts.....pffffttttt!

    I'm sure that you would have written the same sort of post in February of 2000.
  • DaGoat
    Yeah I've been thinking we should recognize the market recovery after we were bad-mouthing it before. I'm not sure what's changed except for some earnings being better than the dismal predictions.
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