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	<title>Comments on: Ringling Brothers, Slave Mongers? Time to Stop Going to Animal Circuses?</title>
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		<title>By: hayley2004</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/40309/ringling-brothers-slave-mongers-time-to-stop-going-to-animal-circuses/comment-page-1/#comment-200811</link>
		<dc:creator>hayley2004</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for posting something about this. PETA can be ridiculous at times (e.g., Obama killing the fly) ... but this situation is totally at the other end of the extreme. This needs to be stopped and stopped yesterday. These animals need our help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting something about this. PETA can be ridiculous at times (e.g., Obama killing the fly) &#8230; but this situation is totally at the other end of the extreme. This needs to be stopped and stopped yesterday. These animals need our help.</p>
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		<title>By: ordinarysparrow</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/40309/ringling-brothers-slave-mongers-time-to-stop-going-to-animal-circuses/comment-page-1/#comment-195908</link>
		<dc:creator>ordinarysparrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>really hard to watch---could not make it to the third one----how sad----- how very blocked the heart of some yet to be humanes----and i could care less that PETA is over the line at times----at least they bring our eyes to this sickness----and ours if we deny it----</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>really hard to watch&#8212;could not make it to the third one&#8212;-how sad&#8212;&#8211; how very blocked the heart of some yet to be humanes&#8212;-and i could care less that PETA is over the line at times&#8212;-at least they bring our eyes to this sickness&#8212;-and ours if we deny it&#8212;-</p>
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		<title>By: joesue</title>
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		<dc:creator>joesue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not about Peta here. I may not agree with all they think or all they do but the undercover video speaks for itself. Also, some employess have come forward about the abuse. There is no excuse for abuse to circus animals. Thank god for under-cover video. I will not go to the circus. I went to Cirque Du Soleil and there were no animals and it was wonderful.  Those jerks should not be senselessly hitting and whipping those animals, somebody should whip them and see how they like it. How pathetic to abuse an animal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s not about Peta here. I may not agree with all they think or all they do but the undercover video speaks for itself. Also, some employess have come forward about the abuse. There is no excuse for abuse to circus animals. Thank god for under-cover video. I will not go to the circus. I went to Cirque Du Soleil and there were no animals and it was wonderful.  Those jerks should not be senselessly hitting and whipping those animals, somebody should whip them and see how they like it. How pathetic to abuse an animal.</p>
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		<title>By: spirasol</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirasol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember taking my first and last set of equestrian riding lessons years ago.  I had to be taught to be a rider, to dominate the horse, to whip if necessary, to dig in my heals. I was uncomfortable at first..... but I got it eventually.  I had to remind the &quot;dim witted&quot; animal who was in control.  Would the horse go back to the barn or would I make it jump over those artificial hurdles?  A battle of wills.  As a fledgling rider I&#039;m sure  went overboard...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then there was my first pet.  I was 16 and brought home a dog.  Being ignorant, I thought it was my job to train the dog.  Training the dog meant breaking its will in order to do mine.  Well it worked.  Even if the dog was out herding with neighboring dogs I could make it come to me, usually on a crawl from across the street, but the last laugh was on me, as when she was out of my sight, she did as she pleased.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What is it with the desire to control another?  I don&#039;t think anyone, anything is safe, especially that which is wild.  Think of nature, what we do and have done to her.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know I&#039;m sounding like a miserable bleeding heart but there is a lot of sadness there in the left hand corner of the heart.  I think of my soul looking into a mirror, rememering for only a moment, just before putting on my mask and shackles, banging my tin cup against the bars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember taking my first and last set of equestrian riding lessons years ago.  I had to be taught to be a rider, to dominate the horse, to whip if necessary, to dig in my heals. I was uncomfortable at first&#8230;.. but I got it eventually.  I had to remind the &#8220;dim witted&#8221; animal who was in control.  Would the horse go back to the barn or would I make it jump over those artificial hurdles?  A battle of wills.  As a fledgling rider I&#39;m sure  went overboard&#8230;</p>
<p>Then there was my first pet.  I was 16 and brought home a dog.  Being ignorant, I thought it was my job to train the dog.  Training the dog meant breaking its will in order to do mine.  Well it worked.  Even if the dog was out herding with neighboring dogs I could make it come to me, usually on a crawl from across the street, but the last laugh was on me, as when she was out of my sight, she did as she pleased.  </p>
<p>What is it with the desire to control another?  I don&#39;t think anyone, anything is safe, especially that which is wild.  Think of nature, what we do and have done to her.  </p>
<p>I know I&#39;m sounding like a miserable bleeding heart but there is a lot of sadness there in the left hand corner of the heart.  I think of my soul looking into a mirror, rememering for only a moment, just before putting on my mask and shackles, banging my tin cup against the bars.</p>
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		<title>By: heather1980</title>
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		<dc:creator>heather1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this really about peta though? Honestly, I could have filmed this newest video and I am not a part of peta. This new video doesn&#039;t lie! Elephants are being beaten into submission and this is the point. I will never go to a circus this is how they get them to perform, is this surprising to anyone? They don&#039;t do all that weird shit for nothing...they are huge animals doing these un-natural acts, come on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this really about peta though? Honestly, I could have filmed this newest video and I am not a part of peta. This new video doesn&#39;t lie! Elephants are being beaten into submission and this is the point. I will never go to a circus this is how they get them to perform, is this surprising to anyone? They don&#39;t do all that weird shit for nothing&#8230;they are huge animals doing these un-natural acts, come on.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to wonder about anything PETA claims.  They killed 95% of adoptable animals in their care in 2008&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.consumerfreedom.com/pressRelease_detail.cfm/release/258&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.consumerfreedom.com/pressRelease_det...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;snip&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;According to public records from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA killed 2,124 pets last year and placed only seven in adoptive homes. Since 1998, a total of 21,339 dogs and cats have died at the hands of PETA workers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Despite having a $32 million budget, PETA does not operate an adoption shelter. PETA employees make no discernible effort to find homes for the thousands of pets they kill every year. Last year, the Center for Consumer Freedom petitioned Virginia’s State Veterinarian to reclassify PETA as a slaughterhouse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;snip&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to wonder about anything PETA claims.  They killed 95% of adoptable animals in their care in 2008</p>
<p><a href="http://www.consumerfreedom.com/pressRelease_detail.cfm/release/258" rel="nofollow">http://www.consumerfreedom.com/pressRelease_det&#8230;</a></p>
<p>&lt;snip&gt;</p>
<p>According to public records from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA killed 2,124 pets last year and placed only seven in adoptive homes. Since 1998, a total of 21,339 dogs and cats have died at the hands of PETA workers.</p>
<p>Despite having a $32 million budget, PETA does not operate an adoption shelter. PETA employees make no discernible effort to find homes for the thousands of pets they kill every year. Last year, the Center for Consumer Freedom petitioned Virginia’s State Veterinarian to reclassify PETA as a slaughterhouse.</p>
<p>&lt;snip&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: susan1024</title>
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		<dc:creator>susan1024</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heartbreaking. nice job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heartbreaking. nice job.</p>
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		<title>By: archangel</title>
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		<dc:creator>archangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear Thurman, I didnt think I said an elephant&#039;s life was more or less compared to grand scheme? The old root of the word &#039;noble&#039; means one who knows, in this case, this creature has its knowing instincts, that are definitely interrupted and corrupted by those who brutalize the elephants&#039; lives. Did you watch all three films? Any more thoughts?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;dr.e</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear Thurman, I didnt think I said an elephant&#39;s life was more or less compared to grand scheme? The old root of the word &#39;noble&#39; means one who knows, in this case, this creature has its knowing instincts, that are definitely interrupted and corrupted by those who brutalize the elephants&#39; lives. Did you watch all three films? Any more thoughts?</p>
<p>dr.e</p>
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		<title>By: ThurmanHart</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThurmanHart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...far far beneath the elephants noble life that’s meant to be.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Elephants lives are noble?  I&#039;m just wondering what part of a nomadic foraging life qualifies it as &quot;noble.&quot;  I have no interest in seeing, much less defending, &quot;wild animal acts.&quot;  But in the grand scheme of things, an elephant&#039;s life is no more, or less, noble than any other animal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;far far beneath the elephants noble life that’s meant to be.&#8221;</p>
<p>Elephants lives are noble?  I&#39;m just wondering what part of a nomadic foraging life qualifies it as &#8220;noble.&#8221;  I have no interest in seeing, much less defending, &#8220;wild animal acts.&#8221;  But in the grand scheme of things, an elephant&#39;s life is no more, or less, noble than any other animal.</p>
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