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		<title>By: Father_Time</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/39452/stink-bombs-in-our-midst/comment-page-1/#comment-194644</link>
		<dc:creator>Father_Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capitalism is a shell game of manipulation, a form of legal corruption. Capitalism should have strict laws imposed to protect the innocent and gullible. Free Enterprise is mere rhetoric for legalized theft. I much prefer some European Social capitalism systems over the oppressive American (U.S.) heartless and evil system. Especially since at least five other nations have a higher standard of living than the United States. It is good to know that the U.S. is closer to Social Capitalism than ever before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capitalism is a shell game of manipulation, a form of legal corruption. Capitalism should have strict laws imposed to protect the innocent and gullible. Free Enterprise is mere rhetoric for legalized theft. I much prefer some European Social capitalism systems over the oppressive American (U.S.) heartless and evil system. Especially since at least five other nations have a higher standard of living than the United States. It is good to know that the U.S. is closer to Social Capitalism than ever before.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/39452/stink-bombs-in-our-midst/comment-page-1/#comment-194541</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Goldman Sachs and other big name financial firms. I feel like these people are laughing at the likes of me&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They and their friends and abettors in the Obama Administration, if you&#039;re honest and complete in scope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Goldman Sachs and other big name financial firms. I feel like these people are laughing at the likes of me&#8221;</p>
<p>They and their friends and abettors in the Obama Administration, if you&#39;re honest and complete in scope.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/39452/stink-bombs-in-our-midst/comment-page-1/#comment-194539</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The primary care numbers [...]&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Note that the Clinton scandal included intentions (threats) to influence and change (i.e., control and revise at will) the distribution of GPs versus specialists, and I still speculate aloud what may be done by any new government health care initiative that purports to approach the problems of lack of GPs, lack of doctors in underserved areas, and disparity of incomes of GPs, etc., versus some (many) specialists.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A relevent subject also in the news because of Washington&#039;s interventionism (intrusion and worse) is the case of global-warming-idiocy-driven intentions by Washington to develop a &quot;cap and trade&quot; system for controlling power plant (and other stationary-large-source, no doubt) emissions, which is a quota system with trading and lucrative opportunities for middlemen and for meddling by government, rather than being honest and non-cowardly, and imposing a fuel tax to combat emissions from combustion directly.  Such a &quot;cap and trade&quot; system could be imitated by any system that would allocate and apportion various kinds of doctors (and residency and future-practice positions, or quotas of these) on, say, a regional basis.  Not only would quotas be possible on different types of future (and present) doctors in an area, but also where they would be practiced.  (A regional approach rather than at the state level seems likelier.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The primary care numbers [...]&#8220;</p>
<p>Note that the Clinton scandal included intentions (threats) to influence and change (i.e., control and revise at will) the distribution of GPs versus specialists, and I still speculate aloud what may be done by any new government health care initiative that purports to approach the problems of lack of GPs, lack of doctors in underserved areas, and disparity of incomes of GPs, etc., versus some (many) specialists.</p>
<p>A relevent subject also in the news because of Washington&#39;s interventionism (intrusion and worse) is the case of global-warming-idiocy-driven intentions by Washington to develop a &#8220;cap and trade&#8221; system for controlling power plant (and other stationary-large-source, no doubt) emissions, which is a quota system with trading and lucrative opportunities for middlemen and for meddling by government, rather than being honest and non-cowardly, and imposing a fuel tax to combat emissions from combustion directly.  Such a &#8220;cap and trade&#8221; system could be imitated by any system that would allocate and apportion various kinds of doctors (and residency and future-practice positions, or quotas of these) on, say, a regional basis.  Not only would quotas be possible on different types of future (and present) doctors in an area, but also where they would be practiced.  (A regional approach rather than at the state level seems likelier.)</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That is the truth of it folks. Worker class salaries are based on how society values those workers.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It goes farther than that.  With the progress of transport and of development elsewhere in the world, anything that can be easily or practically done in the Third World as well as here will effectively command Third Wages somewhere, or be done somewhere else.  And that was explicitly stated among the books I own by a self-professed yellow-dog Democrat (actually quoting people like Robert Reich and Lester Thurow to describe economic trends as of the 1990s).  While the resentful can insult those of us who know better than they, or engage in other illogical behavior, more reasoned minds and individuals will first see the issues and problems that truly exist, and draw logical inferences and conclusions, or report the facts, instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That is the truth of it folks. Worker class salaries are based on how society values those workers.&#8221;</p>
<p>It goes farther than that.  With the progress of transport and of development elsewhere in the world, anything that can be easily or practically done in the Third World as well as here will effectively command Third Wages somewhere, or be done somewhere else.  And that was explicitly stated among the books I own by a self-professed yellow-dog Democrat (actually quoting people like Robert Reich and Lester Thurow to describe economic trends as of the 1990s).  While the resentful can insult those of us who know better than they, or engage in other illogical behavior, more reasoned minds and individuals will first see the issues and problems that truly exist, and draw logical inferences and conclusions, or report the facts, instead.</p>
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		<title>By: shannonlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>shannonlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If a doctor was as valuable to society as a bond trader, they would make as much money. That is the way of the world.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is the truth of it folks.  Worker class salaries are based on how society values those workers.  Looking at these numbers is like looking at a mirror.  This is who we are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If a doctor was as valuable to society as a bond trader, they would make as much money. That is the way of the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is the truth of it folks.  Worker class salaries are based on how society values those workers.  Looking at these numbers is like looking at a mirror.  This is who we are.</p>
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		<title>By: DaGoat</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaGoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The primary care numbers are a little skewed since it includes OB/GYNs who tend to make more since they do more procedures.  Here is the breakdown, FPs and internists are around 160K:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://medicaleconomics.modernmedicine.com/memag/Medical+Economics/2008-Exclusive-SurveymdashEarnings-Good-news-for-p/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/532638?contextCategoryId=8426#&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://medicaleconomics.modernmedicine.com/mema...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The primary care numbers are a little skewed since it includes OB/GYNs who tend to make more since they do more procedures.  Here is the breakdown, FPs and internists are around 160K:</p>
<p><a href="http://medicaleconomics.modernmedicine.com/memag/Medical+Economics/2008-Exclusive-SurveymdashEarnings-Good-news-for-p/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/532638?contextCategoryId=8426#" rel="nofollow">http://medicaleconomics.modernmedicine.com/mema&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/39452/stink-bombs-in-our-midst/comment-page-1/#comment-194506</link>
		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;While a class of society that improves the workings of society should not necessary be more greatly compensated than others, a class of society that almost wrecked that society does not seem like a group that should be waxing richer and richer while most everyone else is slowly sinking into harder times, or has already sunk there. ~ MS&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nailed it! If not for the working class, meaning people who actually contribute something worthwhile to society, the parasites on Wall St. wouldn&#039;t have a prayer, much less an infrastructure in which to work. Only a fool would try to portray this irony as &quot;class envy&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>While a class of society that improves the workings of society should not necessary be more greatly compensated than others, a class of society that almost wrecked that society does not seem like a group that should be waxing richer and richer while most everyone else is slowly sinking into harder times, or has already sunk there. ~ MS</i></p>
<p>Nailed it! If not for the working class, meaning people who actually contribute something worthwhile to society, the parasites on Wall St. wouldn&#39;t have a prayer, much less an infrastructure in which to work. Only a fool would try to portray this irony as &#8220;class envy&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: jwest</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a doctor was as valuable to society as a bond trader, they would make as much money.  That is the way of the world.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, that was you way back when.  My chauffeur and I laughed our heads off after that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a doctor was as valuable to society as a bond trader, they would make as much money.  That is the way of the world.</p>
<p>So, that was you way back when.  My chauffeur and I laughed our heads off after that.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind the class envy that outdoes legitimate concerns about excess and about misconduct once again.  [sigh]  A better use of one&#039;s time is to ponder what happens when federal government health care is provide to all, or to many more, and with payment (the basis for dishonesty among advocates of government health care so often) comes control, and the Feds start deciding who will go into which specialty or into general care (and where they will practice in the USA), as well as what income they get?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind the class envy that outdoes legitimate concerns about excess and about misconduct once again.  [sigh]  A better use of one&#39;s time is to ponder what happens when federal government health care is provide to all, or to many more, and with payment (the basis for dishonesty among advocates of government health care so often) comes control, and the Feds start deciding who will go into which specialty or into general care (and where they will practice in the USA), as well as what income they get?</p>
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