Comments on: Inside Jeb: Is the Smarter Bush Brother in Line to Take Over the GOP? http://themoderatevoice.com/38694/inside-jeb-is-the-smarter-bush-brother-in-line-to-take-over-the-gop/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:33:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: rlsikes http://themoderatevoice.com/38694/inside-jeb-is-the-smarter-bush-brother-in-line-to-take-over-the-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-196654 rlsikes Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:30:07 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=38694#comment-196654 If Jeb is the future of the GOP, it has the future of the Whigs. The GOP is a 3 legged stool and no one can obtain the White House unless they have all 3 legs of that stool in support of it. One or two leg support will only get you a loss in the general election. Case in point McCain. The problem the neocon moderate leg has is that the libertarian freedom leg will no longer support under any condition a member of the other two legs of the stool as their nominee. They have had enough and while the moderate leg and the religious right leg may not like it, they can never and will never win without the libertarian leg in place.<br>If anything the other 2 legs of the stool further fractured the party with their treatment of Ron Paul in the 08 primaries. <br><br>So it comes down to this, adopt the libertarian agenda with true conservatism and social libertarianism or face the same end as the do do bird. We will not budge and if the other two legs will not budge either then we can look forward to the destruction of the GOP and most likely in time the death of the Republic. We have given too much and we will not give anymore. If Jeb is the future of the GOP, it has the future of the Whigs. The GOP is a 3 legged stool and no one can obtain the White House unless they have all 3 legs of that stool in support of it. One or two leg support will only get you a loss in the general election. Case in point McCain. The problem the neocon moderate leg has is that the libertarian freedom leg will no longer support under any condition a member of the other two legs of the stool as their nominee. They have had enough and while the moderate leg and the religious right leg may not like it, they can never and will never win without the libertarian leg in place.
If anything the other 2 legs of the stool further fractured the party with their treatment of Ron Paul in the 08 primaries.

So it comes down to this, adopt the libertarian agenda with true conservatism and social libertarianism or face the same end as the do do bird. We will not budge and if the other two legs will not budge either then we can look forward to the destruction of the GOP and most likely in time the death of the Republic. We have given too much and we will not give anymore.

]]> By: mlhradio http://themoderatevoice.com/38694/inside-jeb-is-the-smarter-bush-brother-in-line-to-take-over-the-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-193488 mlhradio Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:18:47 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=38694#comment-193488 Saying that Jeb Bush is one of the strong points of the republican party is not that impressive -- to use an old phrase, it's like the one-eyed leading the blind. I will readily admit that among republican circles, Jeb Bush is most definitely one of the smarter, most level-headed of the bunch. Sadly, that has more to say with the current weakness of the republican party more than it does to the strength of Jeb Bush.<br><br>Personally, I don't think we have seen the new face of the republican party...yet. Think back to 2005 -- I would confidently guess that 99% of the American public did not see Obama as a *serious* contender for the presidency (and except for the handful of people that watched the Democratic convention the year before, or lived in Illinois, I doubt 90% of the public had even heard of him at that time). I suspect -- I **HOPE** -- the future republican leadership comes from completely outside the current old-guard framework. A fresh, new face that is relatively unknown on the national scene, somebody like Huntsman (if he hadn't already accepted the ambassadorship). Saying that Jeb Bush is one of the strong points of the republican party is not that impressive — to use an old phrase, it's like the one-eyed leading the blind. I will readily admit that among republican circles, Jeb Bush is most definitely one of the smarter, most level-headed of the bunch. Sadly, that has more to say with the current weakness of the republican party more than it does to the strength of Jeb Bush.

Personally, I don't think we have seen the new face of the republican party…yet. Think back to 2005 — I would confidently guess that 99% of the American public did not see Obama as a *serious* contender for the presidency (and except for the handful of people that watched the Democratic convention the year before, or lived in Illinois, I doubt 90% of the public had even heard of him at that time). I suspect — I **HOPE** — the future republican leadership comes from completely outside the current old-guard framework. A fresh, new face that is relatively unknown on the national scene, somebody like Huntsman (if he hadn't already accepted the ambassadorship).

]]> By: ThurmanHart http://themoderatevoice.com/38694/inside-jeb-is-the-smarter-bush-brother-in-line-to-take-over-the-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-193482 ThurmanHart Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:32:43 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=38694#comment-193482 "...well ahead of a future run for the Oval Office (or, perhaps, for the Senate, though, in Florida, there may not soon be an open seat for him). And it is what makes this interview rather interesting, and well worth the read."<br>Actually, <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/senate/mel-martinez-to-retire.html" rel="nofollow">Mel Martinez has announced his retirement</a>. Unless he changed his mind, that means there will be an open seat for Jeb, if he wants it.<br><br>As for Bush in 2001 versus Obama in 2009 - <a href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_MRs_Nt465oE/RXzgJ00cVXI/AAAAAAAAAAk/taSqQWZ_jm0/s1600-h/BushFullTerm20061208.png" rel="nofollow">Bush hovered between 44 and 63</a>, and averaged something close to 55; Obama <a href="http://www.gallup.com/poll/117355/Obama-Approval-Rating-Stable-Polarized.aspx" rel="nofollow">through April</a> had not fallen below 62%, and <a href="http://www.obamaapprovalblog.com/2009/06/21/gallup-obamas-approval-rating-slips-to-a-new-low/" rel="nofollow">58% is the "new low"</a>. So either Jeb can't read a poll, he has a bit of memory loss, or he is just being kind to his dumbass brother. “…well ahead of a future run for the Oval Office (or, perhaps, for the Senate, though, in Florida, there may not soon be an open seat for him). And it is what makes this interview rather interesting, and well worth the read.”
Actually, Mel Martinez has announced his retirement. Unless he changed his mind, that means there will be an open seat for Jeb, if he wants it.

As for Bush in 2001 versus Obama in 2009 – Bush hovered between 44 and 63, and averaged something close to 55; Obama through April had not fallen below 62%, and 58% is the “new low”. So either Jeb can't read a poll, he has a bit of memory loss, or he is just being kind to his dumbass brother.

]]> By: shannonlee http://themoderatevoice.com/38694/inside-jeb-is-the-smarter-bush-brother-in-line-to-take-over-the-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-193471 shannonlee Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:59:04 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=38694#comment-193471 The Bush name has been ruined. Jeb may be a much better politician, but his last name might as well be Mudd. The Bush name has been ruined. Jeb may be a much better politician, but his last name might as well be Mudd.

]]> By: AustinRoth http://themoderatevoice.com/38694/inside-jeb-is-the-smarter-bush-brother-in-line-to-take-over-the-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-193449 AustinRoth Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:42:41 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=38694#comment-193449 Hmm, wonder what the reaction to "Obama is fairly honest, especially by Democratic standards" would be? <br><br>Or perhaps "Obama is fairly patriotic, especially by Democratic standards".<br><br>Or my favorite, "Obama is fairly sane, especially by Democratic standards". Hmm, wonder what the reaction to “Obama is fairly honest, especially by Democratic standards” would be?

Or perhaps “Obama is fairly patriotic, especially by Democratic standards”.

Or my favorite, “Obama is fairly sane, especially by Democratic standards”.

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/38694/inside-jeb-is-the-smarter-bush-brother-in-line-to-take-over-the-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-193403 DLS Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:07:14 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=38694#comment-193403 Actually, the Dems failed to steal the election _after_ they lost it, Sil. It's back to pre-election mischief! Actually, the Dems failed to steal the election _after_ they lost it, Sil. It's back to pre-election mischief!

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/38694/inside-jeb-is-the-smarter-bush-brother-in-line-to-take-over-the-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-193402 DLS Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:05:47 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=38694#comment-193402 Silhouette -- who else do they have currently, other than the Demented People's Obscession, Palin?<br><br>Note that Crist is the one trying for the Florida Senate seat for the GOP, not Jeb Bush, who's .. free. Silhouette — who else do they have currently, other than the Demented People's Obscession, Palin?

Note that Crist is the one trying for the Florida Senate seat for the GOP, not Jeb Bush, who's .. free.

]]> By: Silhouette http://themoderatevoice.com/38694/inside-jeb-is-the-smarter-bush-brother-in-line-to-take-over-the-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-193359 Silhouette Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:43:52 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=38694#comment-193359 I pray on my hands and knees that Jeb is nominated to run for the GOP ticket in 2012. Oh please God please let it happen..<br><br>Unless the election then is as rigged as the recent one in Iran and the one here in 2000, the name "Bush" will be a godsend to the Independant or Democratic runners. <br><br>Oh, pretty-please!..lol... I pray on my hands and knees that Jeb is nominated to run for the GOP ticket in 2012. Oh please God please let it happen..

Unless the election then is as rigged as the recent one in Iran and the one here in 2000, the name “Bush” will be a godsend to the Independant or Democratic runners.

Oh, pretty-please!..lol…

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/38694/inside-jeb-is-the-smarter-bush-brother-in-line-to-take-over-the-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-193358 DLS Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:42:38 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=38694#comment-193358 I'll ignore Mikey's latest tantrum details and just note that everyone with an IQ above 50 already knew that Jeb Bush would be a GOP heavyweight by default and obvious future candidate for the Presidency. We knew that before Dubya got the default (last survivor among the lackluster) in the 2000 GOP contest.<br><br>And he has an IQ above 50, so naturally there's no guarantee he'd be among the global warming stupidly faithful. I'll ignore Mikey's latest tantrum details and just note that everyone with an IQ above 50 already knew that Jeb Bush would be a GOP heavyweight by default and obvious future candidate for the Presidency. We knew that before Dubya got the default (last survivor among the lackluster) in the 2000 GOP contest.

And he has an IQ above 50, so naturally there's no guarantee he'd be among the global warming stupidly faithful.

]]> By: Father_Time http://themoderatevoice.com/38694/inside-jeb-is-the-smarter-bush-brother-in-line-to-take-over-the-gop/comment-page-1/#comment-193334 Father_Time Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:22:28 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=38694#comment-193334 The "Smarter Bush". You mean he can speak four coherent sentences in a row before breaking down as opposed to his brother's two. Well that is a 100% increase. You go Tucker. The “Smarter Bush”. You mean he can speak four coherent sentences in a row before breaking down as opposed to his brother's two. Well that is a 100% increase. You go Tucker.

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