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		<title>By: sapri</title>
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		<dc:creator>sapri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When will TMV have a real discussion on free speech? I hope the time is now; we are, as a nation on the brink of violence that will destroy our country. How can we sit by and do nothing about the extreme language being spewed from some news outlets. Show host and guest hint, no, not hint, but come strait out with comments about assassinations, murder, the over throwing the established democracy that has kept our country free from civil war for 150 years and attacking elected officials with rhetoric that calls for their destruction. This is beyond freedom of speech, and we must address these issues now, or we will all be guilty for what will surely happen. It is not entertainment; it is pure hateful propaganda that will drive America into the ground. Please start the discussion now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will TMV have a real discussion on free speech? I hope the time is now; we are, as a nation on the brink of violence that will destroy our country. How can we sit by and do nothing about the extreme language being spewed from some news outlets. Show host and guest hint, no, not hint, but come strait out with comments about assassinations, murder, the over throwing the established democracy that has kept our country free from civil war for 150 years and attacking elected officials with rhetoric that calls for their destruction. This is beyond freedom of speech, and we must address these issues now, or we will all be guilty for what will surely happen. It is not entertainment; it is pure hateful propaganda that will drive America into the ground. Please start the discussion now.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NR - I read Reason all the time and enjoy a good libertarian discussion. But Beck is now claiming he&#039;s really a libertarian.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://orangepunch.freedomblogging.com/2009/01/28/glenn-beck-going-libertarian/6594/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://orangepunch.freedomblogging.com/2009/01/...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://libertymaven.com/2008/08/08/glenn-beck-on-libertarianism-foreign-policy-and-ron-paul-08082008-audio/1386/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://libertymaven.com/2008/08/08/glenn-beck-o...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/ashton1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/ashton1.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2009/01/glenn-beck-the-new-libertarian-says-the-us-is-about-to-devalue-the-currency-like-crazy.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2009/0...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Glenn Beck the new libertarian says: The U.S. is about to devalue the currency like crazy&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Glenn Beck got a show on Fox News, and announced that he&#039;s dropping the &quot;conservative&quot; label, and calling himself a &quot;libertarian instead. Given the economic crisis, I&#039;m not surprised by his sudden aversion for all things government, and libertarians are the staunchest defenders of individual liberty against the state out there. Whether it&#039;s big government conservatism, or big government liberalism, the common problem is the same: the big government part.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NR &#8211; I read Reason all the time and enjoy a good libertarian discussion. But Beck is now claiming he&#39;s really a libertarian.<br /><a href="http://orangepunch.freedomblogging.com/2009/01/28/glenn-beck-going-libertarian/6594/" rel="nofollow">http://orangepunch.freedomblogging.com/2009/01/&#8230;</a><br /><a href="http://libertymaven.com/2008/08/08/glenn-beck-on-libertarianism-foreign-policy-and-ron-paul-08082008-audio/1386/" rel="nofollow">http://libertymaven.com/2008/08/08/glenn-beck-o&#8230;</a><br /><a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/ashton1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/ashton1.html</a><br /><a href="http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2009/01/glenn-beck-the-new-libertarian-says-the-us-is-about-to-devalue-the-currency-like-crazy.html" rel="nofollow">http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2009/0&#8230;</a><br />
<blockquote>Glenn Beck the new libertarian says: The U.S. is about to devalue the currency like crazy</p>
<p>Glenn Beck got a show on Fox News, and announced that he&#39;s dropping the &#8220;conservative&#8221; label, and calling himself a &#8220;libertarian instead. Given the economic crisis, I&#39;m not surprised by his sudden aversion for all things government, and libertarians are the staunchest defenders of individual liberty against the state out there. Whether it&#39;s big government conservatism, or big government liberalism, the common problem is the same: the big government part.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: nicrivera</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicrivera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would submit that Michael&#039;s title &quot;A Glimpse into the Conservative Mind: Michael Scheuer and the Desire for Another Terrorist Attack on America&quot; is misleading and needlessly antagonistic towards conservatives.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For one thing, I don&#039;t think Scheuer was actually stating his desire that America be attacked.  It seems to me that he was simply saying that another terrorist attack was only plausible scenario in which he envisioned Democrats and Republicans in congress ending their political squabbling and doing the right thing for the country.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Secondary, this usage of one or two cases to brand an entire portion of the political spectrum is something I find quite concerning.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Consider, for instance, Republican Congressman Ron Paul and Weekly Standard Editor William Kristol.  Both consider themselves to be &quot;conservatives&quot; and members of the &quot;political right.&quot;  Yet, in terms of foreign policy, the two could not be more ideologically opposed to one another.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ron Paul is a libertarian (albeit with conservative leanings) who opposes foreign adventurism and nation-building and spoke out more forcefully against the Iraq War than just about anyone in Congress.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;William Kristol, on the other hand, is a neoconservative who sees America as a &quot;benevolent hegemon&quot; in the world arena and was one of the biggest cheerleaders for the Iraq War.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are also Paleoconservatives, such as Patrick Buchanan, who toe the conservative line on numerous domestic issues but who spoke out against neoconservatism and the Iraq War.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then there are people like Glenn Beck, a &quot;conservative&quot; who doesn&#039;t seem to know what he believes in--vociferously supporting Bush and the Iraq War when it was going well and then reluctantly criticizing Bush and the Iraq War only after it became painfully obvious that the war wasn&#039;t going that well and not serving America&#039;s interests.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Terms like &quot;liberal&quot; and &quot;conservative&quot; have become so confusing and so meaningless in modern discourse that resorting to blanket criticism of &quot;liberals&quot; and/or &quot;conservatives&quot; without any modifiers explaining just who it is that we&#039;re criticizing only further sullies our debates.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fiscal progressives are not the same as social liberals.&lt;br&gt;Fiscal conservatives are not the same as social conservatives.&lt;br&gt;Paleoconservatives are not the same as neoconservatives.&lt;br&gt;The Antiwar Movement is not the same as &quot;the Left.&quot;&lt;br&gt;Libertarianism is not the same as &quot;the Right.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hate to be a stickler for political nuance.  Politics would be a lot simpler if it were simply black-white, left-right.  But it isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would submit that Michael&#39;s title &#8220;A Glimpse into the Conservative Mind: Michael Scheuer and the Desire for Another Terrorist Attack on America&#8221; is misleading and needlessly antagonistic towards conservatives.</p>
<p>For one thing, I don&#39;t think Scheuer was actually stating his desire that America be attacked.  It seems to me that he was simply saying that another terrorist attack was only plausible scenario in which he envisioned Democrats and Republicans in congress ending their political squabbling and doing the right thing for the country.</p>
<p>Secondary, this usage of one or two cases to brand an entire portion of the political spectrum is something I find quite concerning.</p>
<p>Consider, for instance, Republican Congressman Ron Paul and Weekly Standard Editor William Kristol.  Both consider themselves to be &#8220;conservatives&#8221; and members of the &#8220;political right.&#8221;  Yet, in terms of foreign policy, the two could not be more ideologically opposed to one another.</p>
<p>Ron Paul is a libertarian (albeit with conservative leanings) who opposes foreign adventurism and nation-building and spoke out more forcefully against the Iraq War than just about anyone in Congress.</p>
<p>William Kristol, on the other hand, is a neoconservative who sees America as a &#8220;benevolent hegemon&#8221; in the world arena and was one of the biggest cheerleaders for the Iraq War.</p>
<p>There are also Paleoconservatives, such as Patrick Buchanan, who toe the conservative line on numerous domestic issues but who spoke out against neoconservatism and the Iraq War.</p>
<p>Then there are people like Glenn Beck, a &#8220;conservative&#8221; who doesn&#39;t seem to know what he believes in&#8211;vociferously supporting Bush and the Iraq War when it was going well and then reluctantly criticizing Bush and the Iraq War only after it became painfully obvious that the war wasn&#39;t going that well and not serving America&#39;s interests.</p>
<p>Terms like &#8220;liberal&#8221; and &#8220;conservative&#8221; have become so confusing and so meaningless in modern discourse that resorting to blanket criticism of &#8220;liberals&#8221; and/or &#8220;conservatives&#8221; without any modifiers explaining just who it is that we&#39;re criticizing only further sullies our debates.</p>
<p>Fiscal progressives are not the same as social liberals.<br />Fiscal conservatives are not the same as social conservatives.<br />Paleoconservatives are not the same as neoconservatives.<br />The Antiwar Movement is not the same as &#8220;the Left.&#8221;<br />Libertarianism is not the same as &#8220;the Right.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hate to be a stickler for political nuance.  Politics would be a lot simpler if it were simply black-white, left-right.  But it isn&#39;t.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I didn&#039;t say he loves neocons. I said his comment echos the sentiment of neocons, which it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I didn&#39;t say he loves neocons. I said his comment echos the sentiment of neocons, which it does.</p>
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		<title>By: nicrivera</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicrivera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Sounds like Scheuer thinks we need ANOTHER &quot;new Pearl Harbor.&quot; Meshes 100% with the neocon perspective represented by PNAC.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;GreenDreams,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you don&#039;t believe my words, then consider Scheuer&#039;s own words.  Back in 2007, he wrote an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/27/AR2007042702052.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;op-ed&lt;/a&gt; in the Washington Post in which he criticized George Tenet but also had some rather unflattering things to say about neoconservatives:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Tenet&#039;s attacks focus instead on the walking dead, politically speaking: the glowering and unpopular Cheney; the hapless Rice; the band of irretrievably discredited bumblers who used to run the Pentagon, Donald H. Rumsfeld, Paul D. Wolfowitz and Douglas J. Feith; their &lt;strong&gt;neoconservative&lt;/strong&gt; acolytes such as Richard Perle; and the die-hard geopolitical fantasists at the Weekly Standard and National Review.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Or consider his September 2007 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.antiwar.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.antiwar.com&lt;/a&gt; article &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.antiwar.com/scheuer/?articleid=11670&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why Does Norman Podheretz Hate America?&lt;/a&gt; in which he wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Podhoretz hates every American who does not support the &lt;strong&gt;neoconservatives&#039;&lt;/strong&gt; views, the foreign policy they have devised, and the military and national security disasters to which they are leading America&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Podhoretz is particularly vicious toward Buchanan because he knows that Buchanan sees through the &lt;strong&gt;neoconservative&lt;/strong&gt; fantasy with the most unrelenting acuity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;But Podhoretz does not care about understanding the enemy&#039;s real motivation and attributes in order to annihilate him as quickly as possible. By using the term Islamofascist he seeks only to block any debate on the &lt;strong&gt;neoconservative&lt;/strong&gt; agenda by ensuring that its critics are identified as pro-fascist, therefore anti-American, therefore pro-Nazi, and therefore anti-Semitic. Other notable men have described this tactic as the Big Lie, and it is a &lt;strong&gt;neocon&lt;/strong&gt; specialty and trademark.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;This smug attitude does capture in a nutshell, however, a good part of the basic un-Americanism of the &lt;strong&gt;neoconservatives&lt;/strong&gt;; they are a foreign and, I think, malign influence in our body politic.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I rest my case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sounds like Scheuer thinks we need ANOTHER &#8220;new Pearl Harbor.&#8221; Meshes 100% with the neocon perspective represented by PNAC.</p></blockquote>
<p>GreenDreams,</p>
<p>If you don&#39;t believe my words, then consider Scheuer&#39;s own words.  Back in 2007, he wrote an <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/27/AR2007042702052.html" rel="nofollow">op-ed</a> in the Washington Post in which he criticized George Tenet but also had some rather unflattering things to say about neoconservatives:</p>
<blockquote><p>Tenet&#39;s attacks focus instead on the walking dead, politically speaking: the glowering and unpopular Cheney; the hapless Rice; the band of irretrievably discredited bumblers who used to run the Pentagon, Donald H. Rumsfeld, Paul D. Wolfowitz and Douglas J. Feith; their <strong>neoconservative</strong> acolytes such as Richard Perle; and the die-hard geopolitical fantasists at the Weekly Standard and National Review.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or consider his September 2007 <a href="http://www.antiwar.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.antiwar.com</a> article <a href="http://www.antiwar.com/scheuer/?articleid=11670" rel="nofollow">Why Does Norman Podheretz Hate America?</a> in which he wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Podhoretz hates every American who does not support the <strong>neoconservatives&#39;</strong> views, the foreign policy they have devised, and the military and national security disasters to which they are leading America</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Podhoretz is particularly vicious toward Buchanan because he knows that Buchanan sees through the <strong>neoconservative</strong> fantasy with the most unrelenting acuity.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>But Podhoretz does not care about understanding the enemy&#39;s real motivation and attributes in order to annihilate him as quickly as possible. By using the term Islamofascist he seeks only to block any debate on the <strong>neoconservative</strong> agenda by ensuring that its critics are identified as pro-fascist, therefore anti-American, therefore pro-Nazi, and therefore anti-Semitic. Other notable men have described this tactic as the Big Lie, and it is a <strong>neocon</strong> specialty and trademark.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>This smug attitude does capture in a nutshell, however, a good part of the basic un-Americanism of the <strong>neoconservatives</strong>; they are a foreign and, I think, malign influence in our body politic.</p></blockquote>
<p>I rest my case.</p>
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		<title>By: lurxst</title>
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		<dc:creator>lurxst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was the one who referred to Scheuer&#039;s comments as being Neocon, and I may have been off with regards to how conservatives view the different idealogical divisions within their idealogical division. Was it just hyperbole, as some have stated? I notice that there hasn&#039;t been any attempt by Fox News or Glenn Beck to clarify Scheuer&#039;s commentary, so I take it they accept it at face value. That is extremely scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was the one who referred to Scheuer&#39;s comments as being Neocon, and I may have been off with regards to how conservatives view the different idealogical divisions within their idealogical division. Was it just hyperbole, as some have stated? I notice that there hasn&#39;t been any attempt by Fox News or Glenn Beck to clarify Scheuer&#39;s commentary, so I take it they accept it at face value. That is extremely scary.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the neocon position, from the Project for a New American Century:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;PNAC says that what was needed for America to dominate much of humanity and the world’s resources, was &quot;some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor&quot;. The attacks of September 11, 2001 provided the &quot;new Pearl Harbor&quot;, described as &quot;the opportunity of ages&quot;. The Project for the New American Century was formed, along with the American Enterprise Institute, the Hudson Institute and others that have since merge the ambitions of the Reagan administration with those of the current Bush regime. Time and again, September 11 is described as an &quot;opportunity&quot;. It provided the necessary catalyst to put the global war plan into effect. Congress quickly allocated $40 billion to fund the &quot;war on terrorism&quot; shortly after September 11. Condoleezze Rice said she had called together senior members of the National Security County and asked them &quot;to think about ‘how do you capitalize on these opportunities, which she compared with those of &quot;1945 to 1947&quot;; the start of the cold war. &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sounds like Scheuer thinks we need ANOTHER &quot;new Pearl Harbor.&quot; Meshes 100% with the neocon perspective represented by PNAC. Who is PNAC?  - Paul Wolfowitz, Bush&#039;s Deputy Defense Secretary. John Bolton, Bush&#039;s Undersecretary of State. Stephen Cambone, Bush&#039;s head of the Pentagon’s Office of Program, Analysis and Evaluation. Eliot Cohen a member of the Defense Policy Board, which advised Rumsfeld. Devon Cross a member of the Defense Policy Board, which advised Rumsfeld. I. Lewis Libby Chief of Staff to Bush&#039;s Vice President Dick Cheney. Dov Zakheim, Bush&#039;s Comptroller for the Defense Department. Vice-President Dick Cheney , Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, William J. Bennett (Reagan’s former Education Secretary), and Zalmay Khalilzad (Bush’s Ambassador to Afghanistan).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#39;s the neocon position, from the Project for a New American Century:</p>
<p>&#8220;PNAC says that what was needed for America to dominate much of humanity and the world’s resources, was &#8220;some catastrophic and catalyzing event &#8211; like a new Pearl Harbor&#8221;. The attacks of September 11, 2001 provided the &#8220;new Pearl Harbor&#8221;, described as &#8220;the opportunity of ages&#8221;. The Project for the New American Century was formed, along with the American Enterprise Institute, the Hudson Institute and others that have since merge the ambitions of the Reagan administration with those of the current Bush regime. Time and again, September 11 is described as an &#8220;opportunity&#8221;. It provided the necessary catalyst to put the global war plan into effect. Congress quickly allocated $40 billion to fund the &#8220;war on terrorism&#8221; shortly after September 11. Condoleezze Rice said she had called together senior members of the National Security County and asked them &#8220;to think about ‘how do you capitalize on these opportunities, which she compared with those of &#8220;1945 to 1947&#8243;; the start of the cold war. &#8220;</p>
<p>Sounds like Scheuer thinks we need ANOTHER &#8220;new Pearl Harbor.&#8221; Meshes 100% with the neocon perspective represented by PNAC. Who is PNAC?  &#8211; Paul Wolfowitz, Bush&#39;s Deputy Defense Secretary. John Bolton, Bush&#39;s Undersecretary of State. Stephen Cambone, Bush&#39;s head of the Pentagon’s Office of Program, Analysis and Evaluation. Eliot Cohen a member of the Defense Policy Board, which advised Rumsfeld. Devon Cross a member of the Defense Policy Board, which advised Rumsfeld. I. Lewis Libby Chief of Staff to Bush&#39;s Vice President Dick Cheney. Dov Zakheim, Bush&#39;s Comptroller for the Defense Department. Vice-President Dick Cheney , Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, William J. Bennett (Reagan’s former Education Secretary), and Zalmay Khalilzad (Bush’s Ambassador to Afghanistan).</p>
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		<title>By: shannonlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>shannonlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article refers to him as conservative, but not a neo-con.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;But what’s clear is that conservatives like Scheuer — and there are many of them (neocons, mostly, but not only), — promote a Cheney-esque national security agenda that is, at its core, violent.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article refers to him as conservative, but not a neo-con.</p>
<p>&#8220;But what’s clear is that conservatives like Scheuer — and there are many of them (neocons, mostly, but not only), — promote a Cheney-esque national security agenda that is, at its core, violent.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, I thought it was a pretty irresponsible way of making his point, but the point seemed to be that he feels the political class in our country has abandoned their responsibilities to the nation in favor of supporting their own political careers, and that the public needs to wake up to it. I&#039;m guessing he was probably using hyperbole to make that point (that only something really drastic gets the public&#039;s attention), but even so it was a pretty stupid way of saying that IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, I thought it was a pretty irresponsible way of making his point, but the point seemed to be that he feels the political class in our country has abandoned their responsibilities to the nation in favor of supporting their own political careers, and that the public needs to wake up to it. I&#39;m guessing he was probably using hyperbole to make that point (that only something really drastic gets the public&#39;s attention), but even so it was a pretty stupid way of saying that IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: nicrivera</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, hate to burst your preconceived notions, but Michael Sheuer is not a neoconservative.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In fact, Michael Scheuer has actually been rather antagonistic towards neoconservatives.  He was extremely critical of the Iraq War (going to far as to write columns for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.antiwar.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.antiwar.com&lt;/a&gt;).  He was also very critical of what he perceives as the &quot;Israel Lobby&quot;, exactly the OPPOSITE of what one would expect of a neoconservative.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t know what his exact politics are, but he strikes me as a paleoconservative.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m saying I agree with views he expressed on Glenn Beck&#039;s show.  I&#039;m just pointing out the silliness of those on the Left who, in knee-jerk fashion, criticize anyone on the Right as being &quot;neoconservative.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Words have meanings.  We ought to understand what the terms &quot;liberal&quot; and &quot;conservative&quot; and &quot;neoconservative&quot; actually mean before assigning these labels to people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, hate to burst your preconceived notions, but Michael Sheuer is not a neoconservative.</p>
<p>In fact, Michael Scheuer has actually been rather antagonistic towards neoconservatives.  He was extremely critical of the Iraq War (going to far as to write columns for <a href="http://www.antiwar.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.antiwar.com</a>).  He was also very critical of what he perceives as the &#8220;Israel Lobby&#8221;, exactly the OPPOSITE of what one would expect of a neoconservative.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t know what his exact politics are, but he strikes me as a paleoconservative.</p>
<p>I&#39;m saying I agree with views he expressed on Glenn Beck&#39;s show.  I&#39;m just pointing out the silliness of those on the Left who, in knee-jerk fashion, criticize anyone on the Right as being &#8220;neoconservative.&#8221;</p>
<p>Words have meanings.  We ought to understand what the terms &#8220;liberal&#8221; and &#8220;conservative&#8221; and &#8220;neoconservative&#8221; actually mean before assigning these labels to people.</p>
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		<title>By: jwest</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a glimpse inside the conservative mind:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ace.mu.nu/archives/289253.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ace.mu.nu/archives/289253.php&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a glimpse inside the conservative mind:</p>
<p><a href="http://ace.mu.nu/archives/289253.php" rel="nofollow">http://ace.mu.nu/archives/289253.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perfect. Our right-tilting commenters again circle the wagons around even the most extreme statements by their fringe. Thank you. Keep assuring independents that these outrageous statements echo the sentiments of the GOP mainstream (are you guys that?) or that instead of saying &quot;that&#039;s not us. We hate that kind of irresponsible rhetoric&quot; you say &quot;oh Kathy is bad. Oh Michael is bad. You think THIS is bad, look what Democrats say.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yep. Keep reminding America what you are about. I totally love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect. Our right-tilting commenters again circle the wagons around even the most extreme statements by their fringe. Thank you. Keep assuring independents that these outrageous statements echo the sentiments of the GOP mainstream (are you guys that?) or that instead of saying &#8220;that&#39;s not us. We hate that kind of irresponsible rhetoric&#8221; you say &#8220;oh Kathy is bad. Oh Michael is bad. You think THIS is bad, look what Democrats say.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep. Keep reminding America what you are about. I totally love it.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;one group actually managed to gain control of the government for about 6 years.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And the other is now in control. The early word is not good on them either, unless you like econimic depressions and socialization/nationalization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>one group actually managed to gain control of the government for about 6 years.</i></p>
<p>And the other is now in control. The early word is not good on them either, unless you like econimic depressions and socialization/nationalization.</p>
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		<title>By: Father_Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father_Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t know that love of country meant that we should minimize our concerns about our military killing people as, &quot;collateral damage&quot;, related to their work in defending us.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Never mind you call me inhuman, God Forbid you call me anti-American!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#39;t know that love of country meant that we should minimize our concerns about our military killing people as, &#8220;collateral damage&#8221;, related to their work in defending us.</p>
<p>Never mind you call me inhuman, God Forbid you call me anti-American!</p>
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		<title>By: shannonlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>shannonlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS:&lt;br&gt;Agreed, both sides have their fair share of extremists.  Sadly, one group actually managed to gain control of the government for about 6 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLS:<br />Agreed, both sides have their fair share of extremists.  Sadly, one group actually managed to gain control of the government for about 6 years.</p>
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		<title>By: lurxst</title>
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		<dc:creator>lurxst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what Scheuer really meant with his comments, since to some TMV commenters they don&#039;t mean what he said. Is there anyone here who can translate Neocon into Moderate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what Scheuer really meant with his comments, since to some TMV commenters they don&#39;t mean what he said. Is there anyone here who can translate Neocon into Moderate?</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Many neo-cons, notably Cheney, have an &#039;ends justifies the means&#039; mentality. When coupled with their extreme belief in their own ideology, love for their country, and disdain for dissenting opinion, you get a perfect storm of insanity that accepts a certain level of American collateral damage for the sake of the greater world and America that they envision.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Actually, you&#039;re describing those on the Left and notably on the farther Left, if you honestly omit &quot;love for their country.&quot;  In fact, we&#039;re seeing exactly what you describe, about the Left, with the current extremism related to the environment and &quot;global warming,&quot; and the development of a similar syndrome with health care, as we&#039;re already seeing and hearing (not only with the Dems&#039; remarks in Washington but with hype and misleading advertising about the health care &quot;crisis&quot; [sic] and necessary government solution NOW!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Many neo-cons, notably Cheney, have an &#39;ends justifies the means&#39; mentality. When coupled with their extreme belief in their own ideology, love for their country, and disdain for dissenting opinion, you get a perfect storm of insanity that accepts a certain level of American collateral damage for the sake of the greater world and America that they envision.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, you&#39;re describing those on the Left and notably on the farther Left, if you honestly omit &#8220;love for their country.&#8221;  In fact, we&#39;re seeing exactly what you describe, about the Left, with the current extremism related to the environment and &#8220;global warming,&#8221; and the development of a similar syndrome with health care, as we&#39;re already seeing and hearing (not only with the Dems&#39; remarks in Washington but with hype and misleading advertising about the health care &#8220;crisis&#8221; [sic] and necessary government solution NOW!).</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Perhaps the forum of TMV is responsible for the folie a deux of Kathy and Michael.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;TIC -- The Immoderate Couple&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Kathy is the saner member.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Perhaps the forum of TMV is responsible for the folie a deux of Kathy and Michael.&#8221;</p>
<p>TIC &#8212; The Immoderate Couple</p>
<p>(Kathy is the saner member.)</p>
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		<title>By: jwest</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shannon,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dick Cheney and I both know that there are things that need to be done for the sake of world peace.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“I&#039;m not saying we wouldn&#039;t get our hair mussed, but I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops, uh, depending on the breaks.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hey, sometimes you got to break a few eggs to make an omelet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shannon,</p>
<p>Dick Cheney and I both know that there are things that need to be done for the sake of world peace.  </p>
<p>“I&#39;m not saying we wouldn&#39;t get our hair mussed, but I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops, uh, depending on the breaks.”</p>
<p>Hey, sometimes you got to break a few eggs to make an omelet.</p>
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		<title>By: jwest</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the forum of TMV is responsible for the folie a deux of Kathy and Michael.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the forum of TMV is responsible for the folie a deux of Kathy and Michael.</p>
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