Comments on: Those GOP Congressmen Are Traitors! Traitors!

By: DLS

DLS — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:15:38 +0000

The intellectually and morally weak have additional balm in addition to the godawful Waxman-Markey and related last-minute Democratic Congressional misbehavior, and in addition to HR 1835 whenever that will be addressed by Congress. EPA is joining the stampede and appealing to the politics-over-real-science beat-off brigade; it's letting California free to engage in activist legislation, which will eventually affect other places and people. The mass-hysteria alarmist crowd will now be additionally appeased, at cost to us all.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/...

By: DLS

DLS — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:01:17 +0000

“GW advocates undermine their own positions”

Not to mention so many of these people's reputations…

By: DLS

DLS — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:58:56 +0000

“Those who decry people who question cap and trade or have rational questions about the scientific supposition of human caused global warming regularly characterize opponents as 'deniers.'”

“Heretics” and “apostates” would be more befitting and honest words they could use instead. (Not misusing words like “science” and others they have defensively or dishonestly misappropriated.)

The worst of them can't even handle rejection of cap-and-trade in favor of a tax on combustion fuels.

By: DLS

DLS — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:55:25 +0000

Krugman's worse than worthless, but what kind of _thing_ would actually stoop to saying something like “treason against the planet” to describe intelligent rejection not only of irresponsible and destructive legislation (compounded by Congressional Democratic deliberate misconduct) but of the related leftist pathology as well as idiocy related to environmentalist extremism about climate and modern society?

You owe us an admission you are wrong, and owe us an apology, but you're unlikely to do this any more than the Dems and Krugman for his earlier misdeeds, etc. Are you good enough? I'm not confident.

By: ChrisWWW

ChrisWWW — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:13:02 +0000

I wrote a post about this very thing today. I agree that it is a bit too much to accuse these folks of being traitors. Call me old fashioned, but I think the label ‘treason’ should be reserved for actual treason, like giving our military secrets to another country.

That doesn't mean we should use other harsh words for the anti-science crowd.

By: R. Stanton Scott

R. Stanton Scott — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:00:53 +0000

Those who voted against climate change legislation are in fact betraying future generations by refusing to protect their living space in favor of maintaining today's profits and lifestyle.

And calling them "deniers" is no more an ad hominem attack, than calling the President of Iran a Holocaust "denier." It accurately describes their actions and attitudes toward a well documented and supported fact, and it relates to the issue.

In both cases, now is the time to stop pretending that the facts are open to debate. Krugman uses exactly the language and tone he should.

By: shannonlee

shannonlee — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:49:34 +0000

Every now and then Krugman goes off the deep end. Brilliant people tend to be a little “out there”.

I don't agree with some of his opinions, but I appreciate the mind and honesty behind them.

By: HemmD

HemmD — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:11:07 +0000

Those who decry people who question cap and trade or have rational questions about the scientific supposition of human caused global warming regularly characterize opponents as “deniers.” By labeling the other side of the debate via ad hominem characterizations, GW advocates undermine their own positions. This is exactly like pro-life groups who call pro-choice people “baby killers” when “discussing” abortion rights.

Name calling is a refuge for an intellectually weak argument.

By: piniella

piniella — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:41:10 +0000

Krugman is correct. The core of the GOP is represented by Crazy Michelle Bachmann and Senator “Don't confuse me with the facts” Kyl.