It's about a crap “medical” system that can't absorb one critically ill baby.

Little Ava was born 14 weeks premature. Were the Parents ever notified that this may have been a possibilitiy? High risk pregancy? Family history?

Did the parents make any effort to make arrangements prior to Ava's birth? Did her Doctors?

I mean, it wasn't any secret that a passport would be required. What, two years notice isn't enough?

My oldest had to spend two weeks in a NICU. We had to GO ACROSS THE HALL. Why can't Canaduh afford to do the same? I mean, with that wonderful govenment run health care, and all the resorces of the country, y'all can't afford one little bitty bed?

No. The problem was that your government run health care system, that benefits from U.S. Research, cheap drugs that we pay for the development of, and has “free” health care for all, SUCKS!

I hope that Ava is healthy, and I have already prayed for her. And her parents.

I also pray that you all finally realize that you have a crap medical system, and make some attempt to fix that little problem. If Odumbo finally succeeds in implementing Canadian health care system here (or Brit, or Dutch, etc.), there won't BE any more research, or any more cheap drugs.

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This post started off with an insult to the United States. You expect us NOT to respond. How about deal with your own problems before you try to dictate what we do? That, or damned well do it yourselves, and stop whining about how unfair life is.

Moderate voice, my ass

Our entire reason for being is to be generous, helpful, and hopeful. We are a free people that comes to the aid of those in need. The problem is that we are seeing more and more that our help is taken and then it is thrown back in our faces. Mexico's drug killings are not because Mexico has a problem with corruption, but rather because America has the freedom to bear arms. This child is in the position it is in not because Canada's medical and insurance and state systems are incapable of providing the needed care and attention but rather America is irrational and cruel for not allowing non citizens to waltz across the borders at will. I ask you what countries military was the first to respond to the recent plane crash in South America? Who responded first and bent over backward after the tsunami 2 years ago? Where is the UN hosted? How many AIDS therapies came out of Russia recently?

I supposed to sum it up while we may come off as cruel and heartless, you will not find another people in this entire world who, as a group, are more caring, selfless, and giving of themselves up to and including their very lives, than the American people. Understand though that you may have the sweetest, most loyal, and caring dog in the world but if you keep kicking it eventually it will bite you.

Then you haven't read much of his writings obviously.

As far as the rest of your post I really don't know where to start.

1. the 24 hour escort- How about instead Canada just issues a passport? It has to be cheaper and less effort than the numerous other options people have mentioned. They blame the US like it is unreasonable “Honestly what is she going to do? Visit her sick baby and at the same time plot and plant a bomb to blow up Major City Buffalo on her way out?” Instead of saying why can't Canada just get her a damn passport!

Indeed, and that child is being taken care of by Americans. NOT YOU!!!!

It is the American health care system that had the resources. Not the Canadian one.

It is the American health care system that gears supply to demand. Not the Canadian one.

It is the American health care system that provides the vast majority of innovation in medicine for the whole damned world, not the Canadian one.

I am glad the child is here. The fact that he is here saved his life.

And I have no doubt that the very second the vaunted Canadian Health Care Waiting List System cannot care for a loved one Michael Stickings, too, will come to the states so that he may snatch some adequate (and modern) health care directly from the gift-horse's mouth.

Shamefully, “The Moderate Voice” is what passes for moderate in this country.

“We” took the baby and it is being cared for. The responsibility of getting/issuing passports rests squarely on the Canadian government. Blogger is clearly so buried in his hatred of the greatest country on earth, and unable to hide his massive inferiority complex, he leaps over the logical conclusion (Canada should have issued emergency passports) and goes right to the States Bashing.

You guys are fortunate enough that we're willing to care for your children who suffer at the hands of a woefully inadequate medical system (SERIUOSLY?!?! NO NICU BEDS IN ALL OF ONTARIO?), dumbass canucks.

Hell, you guys can't even brew a beer that doesn't taste like European Goat Piss.

Shut up and show the proper gratitude, Moosewankers.

A: The United States!

After reading all of the above I have to say that the majority of every American response on here leads me to believe that you guys just cant stand to pass up an opportunity to make things all about you, and a fight at that. I'm sorry but the majority of you are rediculous and should be ashamed of the people you are. You make yourselves sound like terrible individuals who are nothing more than unevolved heartless beings with a taste for blood. None of the negative Americans on here seemed to give a shit about the poor baby thats sick and all alone in this world, who cares in whos boarder that is. I dont.

I dont believe that the person who originally wrote this ment to bash you and your system. Just merely to say that there are clearly issues with both systems. Why cant we speak up and say when there are problems, should we ignore the issues that are obvious and not speak of them when we are on certain land? Im sure you speak about your issues over there all the time and you sure feel the right to speak about ours, but we cant talk about yours? How does that work? And please, god, dont take that as a sucker punch any of you. You have to admit you have done your fair share of complaining about your own system in the past on your own soil. As are we about ours. Thats all it is. In a perfect world maybe all our healthcare would look a little more like our European friends. Who knows. I just know we wouldnt feel ours needs improvement.

I've been to that hospital (St.Joesphs) very recentely as my daughter was born there only a month ago. It plain out SUCKS!!! They are terribly disorginized, contracting out any one they can and loosing what once was decent healthcare. My baby was born 6″11 premature and we were wrongly imprisoned for almost a week. But thats another issue entirely.

Point being the left hand doesnt know what the right hand is doing anymore. Too much healthcare for those who dont need it and none to not enough for those desperate. Shouldn't some of our high ass taxes cover this? They certainly dont cover garbage in this city with a one bag limit, and our roads are brutal as well. Must be going to the revamp of the malls. Priorities! Who is driving this boat anyway?

However, I'm sure there would have been a bed available if the parents were wealthy, right? If all they were missing was an available bed why didnt they just purchase one from the states so that the parents could stay together with the child here in Canada. Wouldn't it have been cheaper in the long run anyway? And if not that, why is the mother not considered a package deal with the child especially in a situation like this one, and as suggested why couldnt she be escourted by someone once there, 24 hours a day. If not both parents, why not just the mother? She doesnt have a record. Honestly what is she going to do? Visit her sick baby and at the same time plot and plant a bomb to blow up Major City Buffalo on her way out? Come on, thats rediculous, what harm is she really?

Our healthcare is taking a dive especially in that last decade or so. It used to be cleaner, there used to be more staff and there used to be faster service for more people. We should complain about it, and hell, if the American's want to complain about it too, I welcome it. Maybe with more upset about it we will be heard because situations like this one should NEVER EVER HAPPEN ANYWHERE!

If I was religious I would pray for this baby. I will definatley be sure to keep her strong in my mind as a happy healthy baby reunited with her parents soon. Just the thought of a scared sick lonely baby without its mother sickens me. As I know being a new mother how I would feel if it has of been mine. I am terribly sorry that this has happened and only wish that the best should come about really soon for all of them. I will be sure to keep myself posted.

Good Luck to you All!!

Why in gods name would people use this crisis to push a political agenda? And lets face it some were coming down on the US for not allowing access when Canada hadn't given these poor people emergency passports. I have all the sympathy in the world for the family but most of the remarks that caused the reactions were not from family and when you take a swing at someone you got to expect they'll swing back.

To those who posted a positive note, thank you and may God Bless You

we can argue all day about eachothers healthcare system even though imo neither side should complain..the states have the right amount of equiptment and staff because they pay for it, sometimes steeply…canada doesn't at the cost of free healthcare…

now i hope every1 can agree that we all want the best for lil Ava.

Are you on crack? As any normal person can see I was responding to this quoted part of the original post.

“MS said “I won’t get into the relative merits of the American and Canadian health-care systems here.” then “after all, at least the couple and their baby are guaranteed care up here”

And it is BS for two reasons, one the baby didn't get care in Canada, two no hospital in the US that had the facilities would of turned away that child. So what's your issue?

The US does have such a system for foreign nationals who have medical emergencies and or other circumstances. The requirement for escort must be done privately and ICE will want someone to stand responsible for them. Obviously US taxpayers cain't be financially responsible for the cost. Really the simple deal would be Canada issuing a passport.