Comments on: Obama the Moderate President

By: DLS

DLS — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:23:19 +0000

“In general he has been very far left on economic matters, stimulas, nationalization of businesses, cap and trade, etc.”

I would say “well left” but not “very far left.” Certainly he is no more a moderate than this Web site is.

What complicates things is how much he has lib Dems do the dirtier (farther-left) work for him and how much it really is their doing. In the past (unless it has been staged, i.e,. faked) he has had to keep the more ambitious and too-extreme left Dems in Congress in line. (He really needs to _muzzle_ the lib Dems in Congress, if he wants to win mainstream appeal and retain its respect.)

By: Leonidas

Leonidas — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:14:37 +0000

Moderate? not at all except on a very few issues..

In general he has been very far left on economic matters, stimulas, nationalization of businesses, cap and trade, etc.

On presidential power he has been very authoritarian and not much different from George Bush. Fisa, indefinate detention, blocking detainee abuse photos, rendition, etc.

I've seen very little in the way of meoderation. I would much have preferred a more moderate President like John McCain or Hilliary Clinton in office. I am not pleased with this administrations actions thus far with the sole exception of foreign policy.

By: Leonidas

Leonidas — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:11:50 +0000

By: Father_Time

Father_Time — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:08:47 +0000

I am very happy to agree with you Dalitso. I think our new President is a bit under rated in general by the media, "in general". However we all know that a President's power rests in congress voting for his bills. Now days that means that his party is in power in sufficient numbers. Unfortunately it also means that the unelected power over the American government, the Lobby, must either agree or their money and influence effectively suppressed by popular opinion, (which rarely occurs), to get those bills passed.

The President was elected on a very liberal platform. I expect and believe I am getting a liberal political push by the President. If by pulling back on social liberalism is the compromise to gain congressional votes on REAL healthcare reform, real energy/ecology reform, and, getting out of Iraq, then I am happy. After that, I would hope that he could pull out a surprise Lobby Reform package to give the individual voter more influence. Hopefully these will include solid regulation on business and specifically the financial industries since it is obvious that they cannot self regulate with integrity. I do not believe the current lobby powerhouse politics reflects what or forefathers intended in the Constitution with regard to “Redress of Government”.

If my opinion seems a little to liberal for a moderate, please consider how far to the right government has gone in the past eight years. While considering, don’t forget to factor in the sad state our country is in because of that right wing leadership. My suggestion, is that our right wing is incompetently to far to the right for our nation’s good.

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By: vwcat

vwcat — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:01:57 +0000

Sorry about double post.
I also have been highly disappointed in my fellow liberals. the fact that they expect and demand that Obama fix everything within a week and that he has not done so within 6 months, including curing cancer and ending world poverty is so unrealistic and selfish.
Plus, they demand and stomp their feet because they expect him to put their pet issue, single issue, at the top of his list over the economy and wars and other much more pressing matters and crisis.
Not only do they show their hypocrisy when they only care about their pet, single issue over all else when they attacked the right for this, but, they show an incredibly self absorbed and childish temper in demanding their issue be the most important.
Also the foot stomping and rejection of Obama and trashing the man because he cannot do the impossible and do it alone. Fixing the multiple crisis that Bush left to him to fix and do so overnight.
All I see from both sides are an immaturity that is stunning.
The right is braying about all sorts of silliness while behaving like spoiled 10 year olds.
the right is demanding their issue be addressed before all else and that all the broken things be fixed right away and in time for dinner.

By: vwcat

vwcat — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:54:09 +0000

Obama never portrayed himself as a super hero. Others did but, he did not. Those who actually listened to what he was saying during the campaign are not surprised by the president he is.
Obama is doing what he said he would do and is behaving as the center left politician who rejects hard core ideology as he always has been.
He never said he was about ideology. Actually, as my senator, we in Illinois knew this. He is basically someone who leans left but, if something sounds like it will work and it comes from a republican, hey, he will use it.
this is what most of his supporters expected and know about the guy.
He is of a school similar to Kennedy and Truman. Progressive on domestic issues but, centrist on foreign affairs. But, most of all, a very practical and pragmatic guy. I argued this to fellow democrats way back in the beginning of the campaign season of 2007.
The fact that the right is going off the rails over this guy and tries to make him out to be some ultra radical leftist is simply hillarious to us.

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