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	<title>Comments on: Govt. Study to Determine Why Dogs Scratch at Fleas</title>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/36129/govt-study-to-determine-why-dogs-scratch-at-fleas/comment-page-1/#comment-189936</link>
		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think they are missing the point. It seems that you are guessing that various companies do the same research all the time. 1) Do you know precisely what the scientists with the grant are doing? Not generally, not kinda, but actually know? 2) Do you know if any private companies are actually doing this? I would actually be quite surprised if Trojan&#039;s R&amp;D department actually wants to do the same thing as a group of non-profit university scientists.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While I will certainly disagree from time to time with the decisions that granting agencies make, I would much rather that people informed about the industry and the health prospects make such decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t think they are missing the point. It seems that you are guessing that various companies do the same research all the time. 1) Do you know precisely what the scientists with the grant are doing? Not generally, not kinda, but actually know? 2) Do you know if any private companies are actually doing this? I would actually be quite surprised if Trojan&#39;s R&#038;D department actually wants to do the same thing as a group of non-profit university scientists.</p>
<p>While I will certainly disagree from time to time with the decisions that granting agencies make, I would much rather that people informed about the industry and the health prospects make such decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Octaroon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Octaroon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GS and GD - You guys are mising the point.  Don&#039;t you think this &quot;research&quot; is done on a daily basis at Trojan, Durex and Lifestyle?  This is a billion dollar industry! Condoms are studded, flavored, glow-in-the-dark, textured and now even change temperatures and vibrate!  Where did all that innovaton come from?  Not from a waste of taxpayer dollars.  The most interested parties in increasing condom use are the private-sector condom companies.  They all have R&amp;D departments and get the best scientists money can buy - competition demands it.  As in most cases, the battle for increased market share leads to innovation, better products, lower costs to consumers and in this case, probably more use of the product.  Best of All - AT NO COST TO THE TAXPAYER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GS and GD &#8211; You guys are mising the point.  Don&#39;t you think this &#8220;research&#8221; is done on a daily basis at Trojan, Durex and Lifestyle?  This is a billion dollar industry! Condoms are studded, flavored, glow-in-the-dark, textured and now even change temperatures and vibrate!  Where did all that innovaton come from?  Not from a waste of taxpayer dollars.  The most interested parties in increasing condom use are the private-sector condom companies.  They all have R&#038;D departments and get the best scientists money can buy &#8211; competition demands it.  As in most cases, the battle for increased market share leads to innovation, better products, lower costs to consumers and in this case, probably more use of the product.  Best of All &#8211; AT NO COST TO THE TAXPAYER.</p>
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		<title>By: Govwasted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Govwasted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any money, including stimulus money going to the NIH to stimulate more sex prostitution is a complete waste of taxpayer money.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Needless to say, the willingness to fund these wasteful overseas scientific jaunts to booze with prostitutes and employ different many colored condoms with the the high flying international Docs is just a syndrome of a disease, the pathological medically waste of the taxpayers&#039; money.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; 1) Journals are reporting that 25 % of the figures received are fake, just manipulated Photoshop copy and paste.  The reporting of the Photoshoped BS  by the corrupt universities to the Office of Research Integrity, a central oversight agency, is only 1/100 of the mandatory reporting. Why?   The liberal elite university do not want to put a condom on their cash cow that might hamper the money gravy train!  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2)  Universities/NIH are  sending technology abroad (ultimately future jobs) using the cheap labor H1B and J1 visa programs.  There are 464 H1bs just at Bethesda NIH, most from communist China using taxpayers&#039; money. At just the top 100 H1b using universities there are 20,000 H1bs. For quick math, at 50,000 a salary 1 billion dollars of the stimulus will be sucked into their pockets, complete waste.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe the Chinese condoms study should be performed in Bethesda and save the taxpayers&#039; money spent on  travel expenses?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So where is the surprise? Our corrupt universities/NIH produce scientists and hire foreign scientists that produce data that 25 % of the data is Photoshopped BS and now the scientists want to go  abroad and booze it up with prostitutes on the taxpayers&#039; dime thinking as long as they wear a condom it is OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any money, including stimulus money going to the NIH to stimulate more sex prostitution is a complete waste of taxpayer money.  </p>
<p>Needless to say, the willingness to fund these wasteful overseas scientific jaunts to booze with prostitutes and employ different many colored condoms with the the high flying international Docs is just a syndrome of a disease, the pathological medically waste of the taxpayers&#39; money.</p>
<p> 1) Journals are reporting that 25 % of the figures received are fake, just manipulated Photoshop copy and paste.  The reporting of the Photoshoped BS  by the corrupt universities to the Office of Research Integrity, a central oversight agency, is only 1/100 of the mandatory reporting. Why?   The liberal elite university do not want to put a condom on their cash cow that might hamper the money gravy train!  </p>
<p>2)  Universities/NIH are  sending technology abroad (ultimately future jobs) using the cheap labor H1B and J1 visa programs.  There are 464 H1bs just at Bethesda NIH, most from communist China using taxpayers&#39; money. At just the top 100 H1b using universities there are 20,000 H1bs. For quick math, at 50,000 a salary 1 billion dollars of the stimulus will be sucked into their pockets, complete waste.  </p>
<p>Maybe the Chinese condoms study should be performed in Bethesda and save the taxpayers&#39; money spent on  travel expenses?  </p>
<p>So where is the surprise? Our corrupt universities/NIH produce scientists and hire foreign scientists that produce data that 25 % of the data is Photoshopped BS and now the scientists want to go  abroad and booze it up with prostitutes on the taxpayers&#39; dime thinking as long as they wear a condom it is OK.</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/36129/govt-study-to-determine-why-dogs-scratch-at-fleas/comment-page-1/#comment-189827</link>
		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 04:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want Jazz to take this the wrong way, cause I like the Jazz Man, but why would ABC call Jazz for an interview on this? I suppose he can represent one &quot;everyman&quot; opinion of the study. But shouldn&#039;t they be interested in actual experts on either 1) medical research, 2) public policy research, or 3) sexual practices among the U.S. population? In other words, an actual expert? I&#039;m not putting down Jazz. They shouldn&#039;t call me either. Isn&#039;t knowledge worth something still?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve never understood the role of pundits in our society. We seem to have this belief that &quot;name-that-pundit&quot; has something worthwhile to say about Iran, supreme court nominations, medical research, military strategy, and on and on. Of course, they don&#039;t, but we don&#039;t seem to care. We publish them anyway. Apparently it&#039;s critical to know what George Will (or whoever) has to think about everything, and then we present it as if it matters.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rant over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t want Jazz to take this the wrong way, cause I like the Jazz Man, but why would ABC call Jazz for an interview on this? I suppose he can represent one &#8220;everyman&#8221; opinion of the study. But shouldn&#39;t they be interested in actual experts on either 1) medical research, 2) public policy research, or 3) sexual practices among the U.S. population? In other words, an actual expert? I&#39;m not putting down Jazz. They shouldn&#39;t call me either. Isn&#39;t knowledge worth something still?</p>
<p>I&#39;ve never understood the role of pundits in our society. We seem to have this belief that &#8220;name-that-pundit&#8221; has something worthwhile to say about Iran, supreme court nominations, medical research, military strategy, and on and on. Of course, they don&#39;t, but we don&#39;t seem to care. We publish them anyway. Apparently it&#39;s critical to know what George Will (or whoever) has to think about everything, and then we present it as if it matters.</p>
<p>Rant over.</p>
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		<title>By: DaGoat</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/36129/govt-study-to-determine-why-dogs-scratch-at-fleas/comment-page-1/#comment-189806</link>
		<dc:creator>DaGoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is cool, Jazz.  Now you&#039;ll be known as the condom blogger and your name will come up in all the Google searches for &quot;condom&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Seriously though I am all for people using condoms, it&#039;s the part of the study that questions whether they reduce sensitivity I think is a waste.  I also am surprised at some of the posts implying they don&#039;t reduce sensitivity, are these women commenting or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is cool, Jazz.  Now you&#39;ll be known as the condom blogger and your name will come up in all the Google searches for &#8220;condom&#8221;.</p>
<p>Seriously though I am all for people using condoms, it&#39;s the part of the study that questions whether they reduce sensitivity I think is a waste.  I also am surprised at some of the posts implying they don&#39;t reduce sensitivity, are these women commenting or what?</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/36129/govt-study-to-determine-why-dogs-scratch-at-fleas/comment-page-1/#comment-189804</link>
		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the real horror. ABC read this and called me for an interview on it. Of all the things I write about...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#39;s the real horror. ABC read this and called me for an interview on it. Of all the things I write about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/36129/govt-study-to-determine-why-dogs-scratch-at-fleas/comment-page-1/#comment-189797</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS, condom use is more important for preventing spread of STDs, for which contraceptives are useless. My point is that someone who doesn&#039;t want to use a condom for safe sex because he thinks it will impair the pleasure -even if he can&#039;t spell contraceptive- might be willing to try it if &quot;research shows&quot; it doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLS, condom use is more important for preventing spread of STDs, for which contraceptives are useless. My point is that someone who doesn&#39;t want to use a condom for safe sex because he thinks it will impair the pleasure -even if he can&#39;t spell contraceptive- might be willing to try it if &#8220;research shows&#8221; it doesn&#39;t.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/36129/govt-study-to-determine-why-dogs-scratch-at-fleas/comment-page-1/#comment-189763</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people at whom this silly supportive nonsense is aimed probably can&#039;t be entrusted to learn how to use contraceptives, to use contraceptives as a rule, or spell the word &quot;contraceptive.&quot;  This has been known for ages.  [sigh]  If you want to be bold, why not study how to develop a contraceptive to put into public water supplies, and the antidote for it (who would get the antidote becoming the political issue).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people at whom this silly supportive nonsense is aimed probably can&#39;t be entrusted to learn how to use contraceptives, to use contraceptives as a rule, or spell the word &#8220;contraceptive.&#8221;  This has been known for ages.  [sigh]  If you want to be bold, why not study how to develop a contraceptive to put into public water supplies, and the antidote for it (who would get the antidote becoming the political issue).</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to understand.  Things like this, or children&#039;s educational performance as affected by psychological matters (or, the income of people who are employed by these studies, or more importantly, that of the people authorizing and reporting these studies) are important!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.detnews.com/article/20090611/POLITICS02/906110387/Taxpayers-fund-%243M-study-on-kids-and-Simon-says&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.detnews.com/article/20090611/POLITIC...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to understand.  Things like this, or children&#39;s educational performance as affected by psychological matters (or, the income of people who are employed by these studies, or more importantly, that of the people authorizing and reporting these studies) are important!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.detnews.com/article/20090611/POLITICS02/906110387/Taxpayers-fund-%243M-study-on-kids-and-Simon-says" rel="nofollow">http://www.detnews.com/article/20090611/POLITIC&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/36129/govt-study-to-determine-why-dogs-scratch-at-fleas/comment-page-1/#comment-189746</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To build on GS point, what if condom makers could cite and advertise that their condoms don&#039;t significantly reduce sensation? Maybe that could overcome the placebo response and pre-convince men to try it instead of assuming it will be a lesser experience. FTC requires claims to be backed by &quot;competent and reliable science.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To build on GS point, what if condom makers could cite and advertise that their condoms don&#39;t significantly reduce sensation? Maybe that could overcome the placebo response and pre-convince men to try it instead of assuming it will be a lesser experience. FTC requires claims to be backed by &#8220;competent and reliable science.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tidbits--&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#039;s more to the article that just the part I quoted. For example:    &lt;blockquote&gt;Janssen said the research will be conducted among 500 men aged 18-24, though only 120 subjects will be involved during the laboratory phase, when scientists will conduct neurological exams and &quot;test an instructional method on the correct and consistent use of condoms.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There used to be a saying on the internet--&lt;em&gt;Read the whole thing! &lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If this was just some attempt at Beavis-and-Butthead-level humor, maybe I&#039;d just leave you all to your little snicker-fest. But I don&#039;t think there&#039;s anything wasteful in the government funding a study that tries to acquire actual data that might improve condom use.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe the real joke here is how easy it was for Fox News to push your buttons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tidbits&#8211;</p>
<p>There&#39;s more to the article that just the part I quoted. For example:<br />
<blockquote>Janssen said the research will be conducted among 500 men aged 18-24, though only 120 subjects will be involved during the laboratory phase, when scientists will conduct neurological exams and &#8220;test an instructional method on the correct and consistent use of condoms.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>There used to be a saying on the internet&#8211;<em>Read the whole thing! </em></p>
<p>If this was just some attempt at Beavis-and-Butthead-level humor, maybe I&#39;d just leave you all to your little snicker-fest. But I don&#39;t think there&#39;s anything wasteful in the government funding a study that tries to acquire actual data that might improve condom use.</p>
<p>Maybe the real joke here is how easy it was for Fox News to push your buttons.</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
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		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I don&#039;t think the reasons people don&#039;t wear condoms has all that much to do with sensitivity during the act. If I had to guess why men don&#039;t, my first guess would be the annoyance of stopping during the middle of sex to put one on. It can destroy the mood completely. My second guess is that there is something of a placebo effect. Men are so sure that it will affect sensitivity that they feel it does whether it does in fact. My third guess is related to number 2, but I have a feeling there&#039;s a certain freedom and aggressiveness or closeness associated with not wearing a condom, maybe even power. If you measured the number of people who don&#039;t use condoms, my guess would be that only a portion of that is accounted for by actual reduced sensitivity. And so, my final guess is that it actually reduces sensitivity.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe the study is worth doing?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW, Proxmire was famous for giving awards to studies that turned out to be quite important scientifically. I have no problem with making a joke about studies, but when it turns into reduced funding for science based on a lack of knowledge of the field, which is what Proxmire did, it stops being so funny.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, there&#039;s already a group doing a similar function. An &quot;Ignobel&quot; is awarded to science that seems particularly stupid and worthless. I happen to know that one such award was given to a study that ascertained whether rats could tell two languages apart, perhaps French and Japanese. Without knowing why the research is done, of course it sounds stupid. Who gives a $@#% if a rat can tell two languages apart. Naturally, that wasn&#039;t the reason the study was done, since not even those psychologists wanted to know that in particular. It was done because we are trying to figure out how humans learn language, which could be helpful to know for many reasons. There&#039;s a proposal that only humans have certain learning capabilities and that it is this special manner of learning that explains why only humans have developed robust language. And so some scientists were trying to see if another mammal, a rat, could also learn in this way. Turns out they could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I don&#39;t think the reasons people don&#39;t wear condoms has all that much to do with sensitivity during the act. If I had to guess why men don&#39;t, my first guess would be the annoyance of stopping during the middle of sex to put one on. It can destroy the mood completely. My second guess is that there is something of a placebo effect. Men are so sure that it will affect sensitivity that they feel it does whether it does in fact. My third guess is related to number 2, but I have a feeling there&#39;s a certain freedom and aggressiveness or closeness associated with not wearing a condom, maybe even power. If you measured the number of people who don&#39;t use condoms, my guess would be that only a portion of that is accounted for by actual reduced sensitivity. And so, my final guess is that it actually reduces sensitivity.</p>
<p>Maybe the study is worth doing?</p>
<p>BTW, Proxmire was famous for giving awards to studies that turned out to be quite important scientifically. I have no problem with making a joke about studies, but when it turns into reduced funding for science based on a lack of knowledge of the field, which is what Proxmire did, it stops being so funny.</p>
<p>Anyway, there&#39;s already a group doing a similar function. An &#8220;Ignobel&#8221; is awarded to science that seems particularly stupid and worthless. I happen to know that one such award was given to a study that ascertained whether rats could tell two languages apart, perhaps French and Japanese. Without knowing why the research is done, of course it sounds stupid. Who gives a $@#% if a rat can tell two languages apart. Naturally, that wasn&#39;t the reason the study was done, since not even those psychologists wanted to know that in particular. It was done because we are trying to figure out how humans learn language, which could be helpful to know for many reasons. There&#39;s a proposal that only humans have certain learning capabilities and that it is this special manner of learning that explains why only humans have developed robust language. And so some scientists were trying to see if another mammal, a rat, could also learn in this way. Turns out they could.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are lots of better frivolous research examples, also targeted toward serious social problems. One studied whether people eat more at all-you-can-eat buffets. They do. In fact, they eat all they can. Another studied what causes traffic jams. Conclusion? Too many cars on the roads. Wish I&#039;d received a couple million to study that. I&#039;d look it up on Wikipedia: &quot;Traffic congestion is a condition on any network as use increases and is characterized by slower speeds, longer trip times, and increased queueing. The most common example is the physical use of roads by vehicles.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are lots of better frivolous research examples, also targeted toward serious social problems. One studied whether people eat more at all-you-can-eat buffets. They do. In fact, they eat all they can. Another studied what causes traffic jams. Conclusion? Too many cars on the roads. Wish I&#39;d received a couple million to study that. I&#39;d look it up on Wikipedia: &#8220;Traffic congestion is a condition on any network as use increases and is characterized by slower speeds, longer trip times, and increased queueing. The most common example is the physical use of roads by vehicles.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have some days, particularly when I&#039;m recovering from a double root canal, when I just don&#039;t feel like talking about the obvious need for proper sex education, disease and pregnancy prevention, etc. etc. etc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I thought it was funny. So pfffffft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have some days, particularly when I&#39;m recovering from a double root canal, when I just don&#39;t feel like talking about the obvious need for proper sex education, disease and pregnancy prevention, etc. etc. etc.</p>
<p>I thought it was funny. So pfffffft.</p>
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		<title>By: tidbits</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/36129/govt-study-to-determine-why-dogs-scratch-at-fleas/comment-page-1/#comment-189716</link>
		<dc:creator>tidbits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, GS, you can take it seriously, and I&#039;ll grant there is a serious issue about condom use, but the quote you keep posting does not talk about increasing the use of condoms.  It does talk about being the first study to test &quot;claims&quot; about &quot;arousal and sensation loss&quot; and goes on to discuss &quot;exploring factors&quot; related to &#039;prevention and intervention programs&quot;, whatever that bureaucrat-speak means.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Whatever the second part of Janssen&#039;s statement is about, the first part about sensation loss, or for that matter mood interuption, can be figured out on a street corner, at the local Lover&#039;s Leap or behind a barn.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry you don&#039;t see the humor.  I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, GS, you can take it seriously, and I&#39;ll grant there is a serious issue about condom use, but the quote you keep posting does not talk about increasing the use of condoms.  It does talk about being the first study to test &#8220;claims&#8221; about &#8220;arousal and sensation loss&#8221; and goes on to discuss &#8220;exploring factors&#8221; related to &#39;prevention and intervention programs&#8221;, whatever that bureaucrat-speak means.</p>
<p>Whatever the second part of Janssen&#39;s statement is about, the first part about sensation loss, or for that matter mood interuption, can be figured out on a street corner, at the local Lover&#39;s Leap or behind a barn.</p>
<p>Sorry you don&#39;t see the humor.  I do.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/36129/govt-study-to-determine-why-dogs-scratch-at-fleas/comment-page-1/#comment-189709</link>
		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DaGoat--&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gosh. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I included what you just quoted in my own quotation in my first comment on this thread:  &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Our study addresses important public health concerns in the U.S. and is the first study to test claims about arousal and sensation loss in a controlled scientific environment, while exploring factors that may be addressed in prevention and intervention programs,&quot; Janssen told FOXNews.com.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If all they were studying was sensation loss, I guess everyone would be justified in making fun of this. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Since they&#039;re also looking for way to increase the use of condoms, I don&#039;t think this study is a waste, let alone humorous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DaGoat&#8211;</p>
<p>Gosh. </p>
<p>I included what you just quoted in my own quotation in my first comment on this thread:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;Our study addresses important public health concerns in the U.S. and is the first study to test claims about arousal and sensation loss in a controlled scientific environment, while exploring factors that may be addressed in prevention and intervention programs,&#8221; Janssen told FOXNews.com.</p></blockquote>
<p>If all they were studying was sensation loss, I guess everyone would be justified in making fun of this. </p>
<p>Since they&#39;re also looking for way to increase the use of condoms, I don&#39;t think this study is a waste, let alone humorous.</p>
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		<title>By: DaGoat</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/36129/govt-study-to-determine-why-dogs-scratch-at-fleas/comment-page-1/#comment-189708</link>
		<dc:creator>DaGoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The study is looking for ways to increase condom use.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;GeorgeS, to the extent the study is looking for ways to increase condom use I can see the justification.  I think people are having trouble with this aspect:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Our study addresses important public health concerns in the U.S. and is the first study to test claims about arousal and sensation loss in a controlled scientific environment,&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is no need to test claims about arousal and sensation loss.  This is like doing a study to see if it hurts to hit yourself on the head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The study is looking for ways to increase condom use.</i></p>
<p>GeorgeS, to the extent the study is looking for ways to increase condom use I can see the justification.  I think people are having trouble with this aspect:</p>
<p>&#8220;Our study addresses important public health concerns in the U.S. and is the first study to test claims about arousal and sensation loss in a controlled scientific environment,&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no need to test claims about arousal and sensation loss.  This is like doing a study to see if it hurts to hit yourself on the head.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/36129/govt-study-to-determine-why-dogs-scratch-at-fleas/comment-page-1/#comment-189697</link>
		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tidbits--&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess I&#039;ll give this one more try.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The study is looking for ways to increase condom use. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Increased condom use would have a number of helpful benefits, including fewer out-of-wedlock births, fewer abortions, lessened STD transmission. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tidbits&#8211;</p>
<p>I guess I&#39;ll give this one more try.</p>
<p>The study is looking for ways to increase condom use. </p>
<p>Increased condom use would have a number of helpful benefits, including fewer out-of-wedlock births, fewer abortions, lessened STD transmission. </p>
<p>That&#39;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: casualobserver</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/36129/govt-study-to-determine-why-dogs-scratch-at-fleas/comment-page-1/#comment-189695</link>
		<dc:creator>casualobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope they throw in some french tickler and lubed vs. unlubed varieties as well so the female population can provide some useful feedback as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope they throw in some french tickler and lubed vs. unlubed varieties as well so the female population can provide some useful feedback as well.</p>
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		<title>By: ThurmanHart</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/36129/govt-study-to-determine-why-dogs-scratch-at-fleas/comment-page-1/#comment-189691</link>
		<dc:creator>ThurmanHart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never understood the problem some men have with wearing condoms.  Having had sex both with and without condoms, I never really could tell the difference.  Perhaps I&#039;m just too sensitive...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve never understood the problem some men have with wearing condoms.  Having had sex both with and without condoms, I never really could tell the difference.  Perhaps I&#39;m just too sensitive&#8230;</p>
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