Comments on: Reality Bites, Left and Right http://themoderatevoice.com/34177/reality-bites-left-and-right/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 15 Feb 2012 04:43:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: EEllis http://themoderatevoice.com/34177/reality-bites-left-and-right/comment-page-1/#comment-187107 EEllis Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:57:23 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=34177#comment-187107 " How can you think that she distorted the reality of Roeder's criminal past?"<br><br>Who said that?<br><br>" I don't know how you came to the conclusion that the guest raised serious questions about her hypothesis. "<br><br>Well she said that Roeder vandalized the clinic 4 times and floated the idea that Bush not enforcing the FACE law contributed, or at the least left him free, to do the murder of Tillar. We found out in the interview that one time there was no evidence who did it, the second a picture the FBI didn't think was good enough to go to court, third, 6 years later no evidence, fourth a short time after the third, and one day before the murder, turns out to be the only time there was solid proof of his activity. She states he did it 4 times but it seems clear that it would of been impossible prove that in court. Not to mention that the last time was clearly after Bush so blaming him is a bit weak. But she had her talking points so she kept going even though the statements from her guest did nothing to advance her conclusion. ” How can you think that she distorted the reality of Roeder's criminal past?”

Who said that?

” I don't know how you came to the conclusion that the guest raised serious questions about her hypothesis. “

Well she said that Roeder vandalized the clinic 4 times and floated the idea that Bush not enforcing the FACE law contributed, or at the least left him free, to do the murder of Tillar. We found out in the interview that one time there was no evidence who did it, the second a picture the FBI didn't think was good enough to go to court, third, 6 years later no evidence, fourth a short time after the third, and one day before the murder, turns out to be the only time there was solid proof of his activity. She states he did it 4 times but it seems clear that it would of been impossible prove that in court. Not to mention that the last time was clearly after Bush so blaming him is a bit weak. But she had her talking points so she kept going even though the statements from her guest did nothing to advance her conclusion.

]]> By: baystater http://themoderatevoice.com/34177/reality-bites-left-and-right/comment-page-1/#comment-187099 baystater Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:07:25 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=34177#comment-187099 I'm confident enough in Rachel Maddow's ability to do thorough research that she had every reason to stand by her position. How can you think that she distorted the reality of Roeder's criminal past? I don't know how you came to the conclusion that the guest raised serious questions about her hypothesis. I think the guest dropped the ball himself. He was all over the place with his story. I honestly believe Maddow is the only commentater on tv that actually does research to back up her opinion as opposed to many, many others who just give their opinions as loud as possible. Lastly, I commend her for staying with this story since it appears most of the media just reported it and moved on. I'm confident enough in Rachel Maddow's ability to do thorough research that she had every reason to stand by her position. How can you think that she distorted the reality of Roeder's criminal past? I don't know how you came to the conclusion that the guest raised serious questions about her hypothesis. I think the guest dropped the ball himself. He was all over the place with his story. I honestly believe Maddow is the only commentater on tv that actually does research to back up her opinion as opposed to many, many others who just give their opinions as loud as possible. Lastly, I commend her for staying with this story since it appears most of the media just reported it and moved on.

]]> By: EEllis http://themoderatevoice.com/34177/reality-bites-left-and-right/comment-page-1/#comment-187077 EEllis Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:06:07 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=34177#comment-187077 There is also a bit of shell game in describing the violations of the FACE act. In Texas what she is describing would be a class B misdemeanor (as far as jail time) Vandalism is a state crime (criminal mischief) , a class A miss, with state time up to a year. If the State is willing to prosecute there is reason to allow them to do so. There is really no deeper check to see if there is a problem just cherry picked stats without meaning because lack of context. The only real time that could of been prosecuted was well after Bush. She says the could of arrested him but that contradicts what her guest says. She ignores what she doesn't want to hear. Excellent reporting here. There is also a bit of shell game in describing the violations of the FACE act. In Texas what she is describing would be a class B misdemeanor (as far as jail time) Vandalism is a state crime (criminal mischief) , a class A miss, with state time up to a year. If the State is willing to prosecute there is reason to allow them to do so. There is really no deeper check to see if there is a problem just cherry picked stats without meaning because lack of context. The only real time that could of been prosecuted was well after Bush. She says the could of arrested him but that contradicts what her guest says. She ignores what she doesn't want to hear. Excellent reporting here.

]]> By: kathykattenburg http://themoderatevoice.com/34177/reality-bites-left-and-right/comment-page-1/#comment-187055 kathykattenburg Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:32:08 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=34177#comment-187055 I agree with you on this one, Pete. Rachel is usually better than this. I agree with you on this one, Pete. Rachel is usually better than this.

]]> By: Rambie http://themoderatevoice.com/34177/reality-bites-left-and-right/comment-page-1/#comment-187032 Rambie Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:03:50 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=34177#comment-187032 I agree Pete, both sides put on blinders about "inconvenient facts". I too saw Madow's show last night and thought it was a little weak. It's the old, "Let the little crimes go unpunished and they'll commit larger crimes". I agree Pete, both sides put on blinders about “inconvenient facts”. I too saw Madow's show last night and thought it was a little weak. It's the old, “Let the little crimes go unpunished and they'll commit larger crimes”.

]]> By: DaGoat http://themoderatevoice.com/34177/reality-bites-left-and-right/comment-page-1/#comment-187022 DaGoat Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:51:57 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=34177#comment-187022 Never let facts get in the way of a good theory I guess. Never let facts get in the way of a good theory I guess.

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