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Leno Versus Letterman

With Jay Leno heading wrapping up his time at the Tonight Show I have been watching more of the program than I normally do. Generally my viewing of late night TV is limited to when they have a good guest or to watch the opening monologues. But in that viewing I have noted a distinct difference between Leno and Letterman, which I think can be traced, at least in part, to their backgrounds.

While neither man has officially stated his political affiliation I think it is safe to assume both are fairly liberal in their viewpoints. But the manner in which this liberalism comes out in the monologues demonstrates to me why I have always found Leno to be a far classier act.

If you look at his performances, whether on the Tonight Show or on the stage, he seems to be far more balanced in his humor. To be sure he takes his swipes at the right, at former President Bush or the Republicans. Certainly he has made plenty of jokes about Governor Ahnold. But he also pokes fun at the left and the Democrats. Like many he has been a bit more reluctant to take on President Obama, but otherwise his humor is bipartisan.

More importantly, his humor is not personal. You do not get any sense that he is out there to push an agenda or to ‘get people’ he does not like. For him the key is the joke, getting the laugh, having the audience enjoy themselves.

By contrast, I have found Letterman to be far more partisan and personal in his political humor. Even today most of his jokes are about the right or the GOP and there is an edge to the humor that gives you the clear impression that he enjoys ‘getting those guys’.

While I am sure there are many reasons for the differences, I think that the key is the difference in their backgrounds.

Leno came up in the world of the stand up comedian. His world was, and to a large degree still is, that of the stage, going from town to town. In doing this he learned a few important lessons, the most important being that if the audience doesn’t laugh it gets pretty lonely and awkward on stage. So he learned that the key is not to pursue the agenda but the laugh.

In addition, because he could be performing in San Francisco one night and Mississippi the next, he learned to adjust his humor to meet the community. He might need to go after the conservative movement one night to make the counter culture crowd laugh and then go after that same crowd the next night to get his new customers to laugh.

At the same time, he knew that the first audience was likely to hear about the jokes he told the second night, so he had to make sure that the humor was not too personal or offensive to anybody. This meant he needed to develop a light hearted humor.

These instincts were, I think, amplified by his respect for Johnny Carson. Carson was a man of the old school, a class act who recognized that it was important to treat people with respect. Even in the deepest depths of Watergate or Vietnam his humor was never too harsh or negative. Leno took a lesson from this.

By contrast, Letterman came up more through the school of a writer and performer on television. He was surrounded by people who had an agenda, to go after the enemy. This is not to say that he is out for an open agenda, even he recognizes that he cannot offend entire groups or large segments of the audience. But his humor is far more personal and negative.

That is why I will miss Leno, though hopefully his successor will follow his example.

  • Don Quijote
    While neither man has officially stated his political affiliation I think it is safe to assume both are fairly liberal in their viewpoints.

    Bullshit!

    Leno Got Schwarzenegger, Letterman Gets Davis

    Schwarzenegger announced his candidacy for governor on Leno’s show, and Leno introduced the governor-elect at his victory party Tuesday night. On Wednesday night, Schwarzenegger made a surprise appearance on “Leno” to thank him for the introduction but also chide him for looking at his watch while the actor spoke, a move that was caught by cameras and turned into joke fodder on other late-night programs.

    I stopped watching Leno when he turned he decided to pimp the Terminator for Governor.

    BTW, how has that worked out California?
  • Marlowecan
    I think Patrick makes an interesting point re: stand-up comedy being the crucial difference.

    Leno is, first and foremost, a stand-up comic. (I would disagree with Patrick in that Letterman is more truly Carson's heir...and certainly Letterman felt he was).

    Leno works an incredibly punishing schedule. He also more obviously exhibits the odd character quirks and anxieties of those who were dependent on audiences for survivial in their careers.

    In the Seinfeld movie "The Comedian" (great film) we see a backstage encounter between Seinfeld and Leno, when Seinfeld learns that Leno has never spent a cent of the money he makes from the "Tonight Show" (he banks it all...and lives off his stand-up work).

    Seinfeld cracks up, and says to Leno: "You still think it is all going to be taken away...and you'll end up a janitor."
    Leno gives a sheepish look.

    Comedians are all nutters!

    QED:

    "A talent agent is sitting in his office. A family walks in...."
  • jokerlola
    Patrick, you are way way off base. Letterman started out as a broadcaster like Carson. Letterman then came out to California and became a comedy writer AND a stand up. He then went on to become a writer like Carson who used to write for Jack Benny and Red Skelton. It was his stand up that broke him nationally and he became a frequent stand up guest and guest host for Carson. Letterman is the one with respect for Carson who was his idol. Leno pushed Carson off the Tonight Show and stabbed him in the back. By the time Carson was ending his run and Leno was readying taking over, Leno's people were treating the Carson camp so bad that they weren't even talking. To find out what really happened, read "The Late Shift" by Bill Carter. You will also find out how Leno stabbed his"friend" Letterman in the back to win the Tonight Show over him. This is after Letterman jumpstarted Leno's then dead career by regularly putting him on his Late Night show. As far as their partisan leanings. Did you not see how Letterman savaged Clinton in the 90's? The real difference between Letterman and Leno is that Dave goes after those that deserve to be gone after regardles of party and Leno tries to constantly play it down the middle even when there is no middle. He will try to hit each party equally even when one party is clearly the more at wrong which makes him a phony. As far as getting too personal with Jokes., when Leno was having a great ol time making fun of the whole OJ case over the bodies of 2 dead people. Letterman refused to do OJ jokes because he said; "Double homocide just doesn't crack me up like it used to!". That's all you need to know.

    Elliot Gainway
  • Marlowecan
    Heh-heh...Leno vs. Letterman inspires the same vehemence as Windows vs. Mac...or Bush vs. Obama.

    I would disagree with murder (re: OJ) as a comic touchstone.
    Some of the most interesting comedy pushes envelopes...dealing with murder, genocide.

    I thought Leno's "Dancing Itos" on the Tonight Show captured the whole surreality of the OJ trial media spectacle brilliantly.

    What would you make of Mel Brooks' "Springtime for Hitler" from "The Producers"?

    If OJ is off limits for comedy...what of genocidical Nazi dictators?


    Personally, I think Letterman is the more watchable of the two...but Leno is the harder working comedian.

    Letterman is undeniably more liberal...but in his most recent encounter with Bill O'Reilly it was interesting to see Letterman conceding, almost to his surprise, when O'Reilly scored a valid point in comeback.

    Like the Mac/Windows flamewars...the debate is certainly interesting...but both are talented craftsmen, I would argue.
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