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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/33369/the-sotomayor-distraction/comment-page-1/#comment-186150</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 16:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George, I guess as much as Democrats and Republican bashing moderates want to make those people the leaders of the GOP, I still tend to consider the actual, you know, elected officials to be the party leaders. And it&#039;s notable that the only voice you included who currently holds office is Tancredo, who&#039;s a known extremist within the party. My point was that it really doesn&#039;t appear that the party is going to take the path of further self destruction by attempting to filibuster this nomination. And the outcry from the more extreme members of the party, including the people who are basically in the entertainment (= manufactured controversy) business, doesn&#039;t strike me as markedly different from past cycles of either GOP nominees or Dem ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, I guess as much as Democrats and Republican bashing moderates want to make those people the leaders of the GOP, I still tend to consider the actual, you know, elected officials to be the party leaders. And it&#39;s notable that the only voice you included who currently holds office is Tancredo, who&#39;s a known extremist within the party. My point was that it really doesn&#39;t appear that the party is going to take the path of further self destruction by attempting to filibuster this nomination. And the outcry from the more extreme members of the party, including the people who are basically in the entertainment (= manufactured controversy) business, doesn&#39;t strike me as markedly different from past cycles of either GOP nominees or Dem ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 14:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say we liberals envoke the &#039;nuklear&#039; option and vaporize all conservatives. Or maybe a trip to the M. Malkin vacation camp behind barbed wire is called for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say we liberals envoke the &#39;nuklear&#39; option and vaporize all conservatives. Or maybe a trip to the M. Malkin vacation camp behind barbed wire is called for.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/33369/the-sotomayor-distraction/comment-page-1/#comment-186012</link>
		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 13:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GS -&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;I&#039;d love to hear you explain how Silhouette and I think the same about gays&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I find the thought of there possibly being ANYONE who thinks about gays like Sil does disturbing! Not opposing it, but doing so in the bizzaro-world way she does.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That, of course, assumes she is being intellectually honest, rather than just being an attention craving troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GS -</p>
<p><i>I&#39;d love to hear you explain how Silhouette and I think the same about gays</i></p>
<p>I find the thought of there possibly being ANYONE who thinks about gays like Sil does disturbing! Not opposing it, but doing so in the bizzaro-world way she does.</p>
<p>That, of course, assumes she is being intellectually honest, rather than just being an attention craving troll.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 13:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sotomayor shows why the Republicans are wasting their time pandering to Hispanics.  No matter what the Republicans do, the Democrats can always outpander the Republicans .  People talk about Mexican-Americans being social conservative, yet now they are cheering on an unreconstructed liberal because she is Hispanic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sotomayor shows why the Republicans are wasting their time pandering to Hispanics.  No matter what the Republicans do, the Democrats can always outpander the Republicans .  People talk about Mexican-Americans being social conservative, yet now they are cheering on an unreconstructed liberal because she is Hispanic.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 01:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quoting from Dreher&#039;s first paragraph:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;m still a bit troubled by the remark, but not in any important way. Taken in context, the speech was about how the context in which we were raised affects how judges see the world, and that it&#039;s unrealistic to pretend otherwise. Yet -- and this is a key point -- she admits that as a jurist, one is obligated to strive for neutrality. It seems to me that Judge Sotomayor in this speech dwelled on the inescapability of social context in shaping the character of a jurist. That doesn&#039;t seem to me to be a controversial point&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, it&#039;s true that he was &quot;still a bit troubled by the remark, &lt;strong&gt;but not in any important way&lt;/strong&gt;.&quot; (I&#039;ve added a little emphasis there to make his point clear.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoting from Dreher&#39;s first paragraph:<br />
<blockquote>I&#39;m still a bit troubled by the remark, but not in any important way. Taken in context, the speech was about how the context in which we were raised affects how judges see the world, and that it&#39;s unrealistic to pretend otherwise. Yet &#8212; and this is a key point &#8212; she admits that as a jurist, one is obligated to strive for neutrality. It seems to me that Judge Sotomayor in this speech dwelled on the inescapability of social context in shaping the character of a jurist. That doesn&#39;t seem to me to be a controversial point</p></blockquote>
<p>So, it&#39;s true that he was &#8220;still a bit troubled by the remark, <strong>but not in any important way</strong>.&#8221; (I&#39;ve added a little emphasis there to make his point clear.)</p>
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		<title>By: DaGoat</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaGoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 01:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read her speech George, and I have to agree with Dreher that I am still a little bit troubled by that line.  Even taken in context it rings of racism.  This is not to say Sotomayor is a racist, one comment doesn&#039;t define a person.  It will be interesting to hear her respond to it, though.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I continue to think the GOP has little to gain by making a spectacle of this confirmation, and that Obama has the right to name his judges the same way other presidents have.  She seems qualified and at this point I hope she is approved with little problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read her speech George, and I have to agree with Dreher that I am still a little bit troubled by that line.  Even taken in context it rings of racism.  This is not to say Sotomayor is a racist, one comment doesn&#39;t define a person.  It will be interesting to hear her respond to it, though.</p>
<p>I continue to think the GOP has little to gain by making a spectacle of this confirmation, and that Obama has the right to name his judges the same way other presidents have.  She seems qualified and at this point I hope she is approved with little problem.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 00:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AFred--&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You should have read the whole speech. Maybe you&#039;d be willing to read how conservative writer &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2009/05/i-was-wrong-about-sotomayor-sp.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rod Dreher&lt;/a&gt; was honest enough to admit he wrong about that speech, which he complained about &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2009/05/sotomayor-and-identity-politic.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;yesterday&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFred&#8211;</p>
<p>You should have read the whole speech. Maybe you&#39;d be willing to read how conservative writer <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2009/05/i-was-wrong-about-sotomayor-sp.html" rel="nofollow">Rod Dreher</a> was honest enough to admit he wrong about that speech, which he complained about <a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2009/05/sotomayor-and-identity-politic.html" rel="nofollow">yesterday</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 23:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Casualobserver--&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;CStanley seemed to think there was not much fuss going on. That&#039;s why I showed her those links.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are you saying those aren&#039;t leading voices from your side? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;********&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, I&#039;d love to hear you explain how Silhouette and I think the same about gays. Seriously. Can you back that up? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casualobserver&#8211;</p>
<p>CStanley seemed to think there was not much fuss going on. That&#39;s why I showed her those links.</p>
<p>Are you saying those aren&#39;t leading voices from your side? </p>
<p>********</p>
<p>Also, I&#39;d love to hear you explain how Silhouette and I think the same about gays. Seriously. Can you back that up? </p>
<p>Can you?</p>
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		<title>By: AFred</title>
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		<dc:creator>AFred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 22:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>george: if a white guy said &quot;ya know white guys can come to better decisions just based on their life experience than say, black dudes&quot;, how would you interpret that? and what would some folks say? how mnnay would NOT think racist? you know a lot of folks that think that kind of racism is ok? i dont think i&#039;d admit to that. so saying a lot of folks think racism is bad, aint really a new flash. go on now with your bad self.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and of course all those folks probably all agreed that judge bork wanted to starve little children. and that was just, well, rationale and logical. do you think judge bork wants little children to starve dude? whacha think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>george: if a white guy said &#8220;ya know white guys can come to better decisions just based on their life experience than say, black dudes&#8221;, how would you interpret that? and what would some folks say? how mnnay would NOT think racist? you know a lot of folks that think that kind of racism is ok? i dont think i&#39;d admit to that. so saying a lot of folks think racism is bad, aint really a new flash. go on now with your bad self.</p>
<p>and of course all those folks probably all agreed that judge bork wanted to starve little children. and that was just, well, rationale and logical. do you think judge bork wants little children to starve dude? whacha think?</p>
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		<title>By: casualobserver</title>
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		<dc:creator>casualobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 22:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, Georgie, you got us on those seven people. Now, tell us about the other 50,000,000 non-Democrats......and then you can apply your sweeping generalization propaganda technique.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suspect you and Silhouette think the same about gays, don&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, Georgie, you got us on those seven people. Now, tell us about the other 50,000,000 non-Democrats&#8230;&#8230;and then you can apply your sweeping generalization propaganda technique.</p>
<p>I suspect you and Silhouette think the same about gays, don&#39;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 22:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CStanley--&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let me help you out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/05/27/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5043597.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Limbaugh&lt;/a&gt;: She&#039;s racist. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/27/gingrich-sotomayor-racist-should-withdraw-nomination/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gingrich&lt;/a&gt;: She&#039;s racist. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bench.nationalreview.com/post/?q=N2QzMGUyZTUyMDA4ZmMxYmM1NGZkNzBhOWE0MjBkYjA=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Romney&lt;/a&gt;: She&#039;s troubling. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huckpac.com/?Fuseaction=Blogs.View&amp;Blog_id=2603&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Huckabee&lt;/a&gt;: She&#039;s extreme. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politicususa.com/en/Beck-wise-latina&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Glenn Beck&lt;/a&gt;: She&#039;s racist. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C522205%2C00.html%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,522205,00.h...&lt;/a&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pat Robertson&lt;/a&gt;: She&#039;s an outrage.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://coloradoindependent.com/29745/tancredo-calls-scotus-nominee-sotomayor-a-racist&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tancredo&lt;/a&gt;: She&#039;s racist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CStanley&#8211;</p>
<p>Let me help you out.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/05/27/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5043597.shtml" rel="nofollow">Limbaugh</a>: She&#39;s racist. </p>
<p><a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/27/gingrich-sotomayor-racist-should-withdraw-nomination/" rel="nofollow">Gingrich</a>: She&#39;s racist. </p>
<p><a href="http://bench.nationalreview.com/post/?q=N2QzMGUyZTUyMDA4ZmMxYmM1NGZkNzBhOWE0MjBkYjA=" rel="nofollow">Romney</a>: She&#39;s troubling. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.huckpac.com/?Fuseaction=Blogs.View&#038;Blog_id=2603" rel="nofollow">Huckabee</a>: She&#39;s extreme. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.politicususa.com/en/Beck-wise-latina" rel="nofollow">Glenn Beck</a>: She&#39;s racist. </p>
<p>&lt;a href=&#8221;<br /><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C522205%2C00.html%22" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,522205,00.h&#8230;</a>&gt;<br />Pat Robertson: She&#39;s an outrage.</p>
<p><a href="http://coloradoindependent.com/29745/tancredo-calls-scotus-nominee-sotomayor-a-racist" rel="nofollow">Tancredo</a>: She&#39;s racist.</p>
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		<title>By: AFred</title>
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		<dc:creator>AFred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 21:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one reason might be dude, that she is not qualified and perhaps a racist. if you dont think it&#039;s &quot;worth&quot; trying to stop someone like that from being on the scotus, then i guess we got a little problem here. wow. strange. and the amazing thing is you think that might be shameful. wow. again. thats amazing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;uh yeah. lets have them report that BO has spent 2 trillion dollars we dont have. then says &quot;gang fellas, we gotta stop spending&quot;. right. they are going to report that!? if they did that it would, i guess make him look kinda silly. almost dumb. so dont count on it. dont count on the reporting. but COUNT on the silliness. cause that aint all we&#039;ve seen or heard the last 4 months. stay tuned. as michael palen said &quot;it can get a LOT sillier&quot; - with government funding of course.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;is petreaus speaking of big mil vis a vis EITs? or cia? or dia? i assume he speaks for big mil. and my understanmding is big mil has never used EITs. and cia stopped them 4 years ago. so &quot;backing obama&#039;s&quot; plan really would mean backing the bush plan, that has already been in place for 4 years. news flash!!! gotta stop the presses there.  and cloising gitmo, yes, everyone incl bush wants gitmo closed. so what? let see them DO it guy. see thats the difference. talking about wanting something is all very interesting. doing something is much more reportable. and THATS the rub. that they DONT want to talk about cause thats got REAL world problems. that are actually really (almost) intractable. stories like &#039;dang, the real world really sucks and is hard, and sometimes theres really no good decision&#039; dont get run above the fold. casue we&#039;re suppoed to have already LEARNED that, as grown-ups. some have. some not so have. to paraphrase steve martin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one reason might be dude, that she is not qualified and perhaps a racist. if you dont think it&#39;s &#8220;worth&#8221; trying to stop someone like that from being on the scotus, then i guess we got a little problem here. wow. strange. and the amazing thing is you think that might be shameful. wow. again. thats amazing.</p>
<p>uh yeah. lets have them report that BO has spent 2 trillion dollars we dont have. then says &#8220;gang fellas, we gotta stop spending&#8221;. right. they are going to report that!? if they did that it would, i guess make him look kinda silly. almost dumb. so dont count on it. dont count on the reporting. but COUNT on the silliness. cause that aint all we&#39;ve seen or heard the last 4 months. stay tuned. as michael palen said &#8220;it can get a LOT sillier&#8221; &#8211; with government funding of course.</p>
<p>is petreaus speaking of big mil vis a vis EITs? or cia? or dia? i assume he speaks for big mil. and my understanmding is big mil has never used EITs. and cia stopped them 4 years ago. so &#8220;backing obama&#39;s&#8221; plan really would mean backing the bush plan, that has already been in place for 4 years. news flash!!! gotta stop the presses there.  and cloising gitmo, yes, everyone incl bush wants gitmo closed. so what? let see them DO it guy. see thats the difference. talking about wanting something is all very interesting. doing something is much more reportable. and THATS the rub. that they DONT want to talk about cause thats got REAL world problems. that are actually really (almost) intractable. stories like &#39;dang, the real world really sucks and is hard, and sometimes theres really no good decision&#39; dont get run above the fold. casue we&#39;re suppoed to have already LEARNED that, as grown-ups. some have. some not so have. to paraphrase steve martin.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really haven&#039;t noticed there being any more fuss over this nomination than any previous ones. Isn&#039;t it typical that a SCOTUS nominee announcement leads to each side trotting out its talking points for and against? It hasn&#039;t seemed out of the ordinary to me, but maybe I haven&#039;t been paying enough attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really haven&#39;t noticed there being any more fuss over this nomination than any previous ones. Isn&#39;t it typical that a SCOTUS nominee announcement leads to each side trotting out its talking points for and against? It hasn&#39;t seemed out of the ordinary to me, but maybe I haven&#39;t been paying enough attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to say...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sotomayor to Dick Cheney is like manna from Heaven...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[talk about anything but torture!]  If fear-mongering doesn&#039;t work, a distraction will do..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to say&#8230;</p>
<p>Sotomayor to Dick Cheney is like manna from Heaven&#8230;</p>
<p>[talk about anything but torture!]  If fear-mongering doesn&#39;t work, a distraction will do..</p>
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		<title>By: casualobserver</title>
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		<dc:creator>casualobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this moment, Redstate has 5 threads relating to Sotomayor and TMV has 7.

As managing editor, Mr. Pete, whose spin machine is working faster?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this moment, Redstate has 5 threads relating to Sotomayor and TMV has 7.</p>
<p>As managing editor, Mr. Pete, whose spin machine is working faster?</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/33369/the-sotomayor-distraction/comment-page-1/#comment-185935</link>
		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our Dumb Media prefers &lt;i&gt;the horserace&lt;/i&gt; to policy. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, stenography is much easier than research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Dumb Media prefers <i>the horserace</i> to policy. </p>
<p>Also, stenography is much easier than research.</p>
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