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Millennial Study Reax

TMV’s Kathy Kattenburg chimed in earlier on the recently released CAP study re: just how progressive the Millennial Generation seems to be.

Sitting in for Andrew Sullivan, Patrick Appel added to the reax with the headline, “We are All Socialists Now,” then pointed to Derek Thompson’s take that “Millennials are stoked about the goals of liberal government … but pretty ambivalent about the means.”

My dueling thoughts on the subject were ably articulated by two commenters on Thompson’s post. First, “Jordan,” who wrote:

I’m pretty sure the never-ending debacle that was the Bush administration turned the Millenials off to the idea of ’small government’ for good. The debate among people my age, largely, is about government’s effectiveness, and how it can best interact with business to achieve the policy goals we want (green energy is a prime example). I think we view corporations and government as a continuum of institutions, not in the sense that they’re all “the man,” but in the sense that they all have a particular role to play in support of one another.

Next, “Duder,” who opined:

This is not exactly surprising. Big government looks much more attractive when it’s free. People are getting a pretty nice return on their tax dollars currently with our massive deficits, while the national debt is something no one feels. Assuming we don’t have a Zimbabwe style debt currency crisis (fingers crossed), eventually people will have to be taxed to pay for all this stuff. This is not to say that we shouldn’t tax more and provide all this government action to make a better society. I’m just curious as how views will change when people actually have to pay for it.

Taken together, Jordan and Duder generally sum up my attitude: government has a legitimate role; focus on government effectiveness (implied: rather than its size); let government invest, but beware the potential future cost. Then again, no one seems to care what my generation thinks.

  • CStanley
    Apparently freedom isn't in style anymore. It's a shame that this generation doesn't seem to have a clue about why so many in other generations have fought and died for it.

    I assume that their views have been formed this way because they didn't experience the failings of previous liberal administrations, but they've lived through some lousy conservative ones so they default to what sounds better with its promises of a 'government that works for the people.'

    Pete- this is why we need you back on the 'dark side' ;) Even though your views are much less conservative than mine, you still come at things from the perspective of rational skepticism of how large a role government should play in our lives and you know that there's no such thing as a free lunch no matter how much the politicians make it seem that way.
  • Pete Abel
    Thanks, CS. Yes, I still have a foot in the conservative camp. And I'm not going anywhere. Unfortunately, as long as the de facto leaders of today's "conservative movement" apply a litmus test (of sorts) to membership, I won't be openly accepted by them as a conservative, not with my "heretical" views on foreign policy (ref. Colin Powell) and social issues (ref. Andrew Sullivan).
  • "I’m just curious as how views will change when people actually have to pay for it."


    Commenter "Duder" really doesn't have to wait very long to see how this will play out. Just have a peek inside the California petri dish.
  • Pete Abel
    PM -- California is an interesting case. Despite its turmoil, the state's erstwhile Governor still can't get public approval on version 6,000 of his proposed budget-fixing solutions. Reference: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=763.... In the end, I fear that says more about the sometimes dysfunctional nature of democracy than it does about Schwarzenegger, i.e., even faced with bankruptcy, neither voters nor their elected represenatives are capable of the tough choices needed to fix things. And yes, today, I'm even more skeptical/cynical than usual.
  • Pete, I agree that there's a major disconnect between the state government and the citizens in California. But (ignoring the 'spit in your eyes dangit' populist pay freeze that passed) the individual measures that failed yesterday all seem to have been efforts to temporarily sustain the spending/services behemoth.

    To me, that said "we ain't gonna pay". What's not clear to me is whether the voters understand the corresponding "we don't get the services". Maybe they do (that seems to be how the conservatives are interpreting things). We shall see...

    One way or another, though, they're in a world of hurt out there, and it's definitely of their own making.
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