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What’s Up With People And Gays?
The anti-gay marriage amendments were credited with giving Bush the 2004 election. Maine’s recent debate on the issue had to be delayed because so many people came that there were traffic jams. It’s caused schisms in Church denominations. TMV posts that talk about gays seem to consistently get the most comments out of any topic — aside from which political party is “worse.” Not to mention the number of people that are beaten or killed each year.
The only thing I can think is: why? Seriously, I don’t get how this issue even begs any comment, let alone changing the course of history. To me it’d be much more worthwhile to discuss and care about more important things such as white or wheat, boxers or briefs, and Beatles or Stones.
This post really doesn’t have a point, except that there is none. Anyone know why it’s such a Big Deal to so many people?
57 Responses to “What’s Up With People And Gays?”
Your opinions are actually hurting a lot of people. What are you doing is calling someone, who in my experience probably fought with the truth for a long time and tried to deny who they were purposely so they wouldn't be “deviant,” a “deviant”
Nobody chooses to be gay, why would anyone choose it? And instead you are telling someone, who if they had the choice, would likely choice NOT to be gay that they're “deviant”
So wait? You're saying that because a minority is homosexual, we have a right to oppress them?
Black people are a “deviation” from the statistical norm, Jews are a “deviation” from the statistical norm. You're saying that if someone isn't a member of a majority group, he or she has no right to be protected?
Wow.
::”So wait? You're saying that because a minority is homosexual, we have a right to oppress them?”
And where exactly in my comments did I say that? What new oppression am I calling forth? None.
::”Black people are a “deviation” from the statistical norm, Jews are a “deviation” from the statistical norm.”
It would entirely depend where you are geographically. But calling him a “black” because of his skin color is not wrong. Nor is calling a “white” white or a Jew “Jewish”
::You're saying that if someone isn't a member of a majority group, he or she has no right to be protected?
Protected from what? I can't wait until this point is argued in court and Lawrence versus Texas is more clearly delineated.
::Wow
Even across Blacks, Jews, and whatever human, homosexuality is an activity of a minority as much as it might pain you to admit. As such, it is in fact a deviation from the majority. Sorry if it offends anyone's sensibilities.
Jews are a “deviation” from the statistical norm.
It's a deviation from the majority, therefore it should not be accepted?
Wow tech, just…wow. Thank God most people don't think like you.
“therefore it should not be accepted? “
I do not accept same sex marriage, and I will continue to encourage others to not do so also. I will continue to push for people to be able to democratically express their wishes in the voting booth.
::Thank God most people don't think like you.
The majority of people in my state have already done so by protecting the definition of marriage between one man and one women with a constitutional amendment. to the state constitution.
Mikkel, it's a good question, and IMHO you're on to something with the tribal dynamics. I think it's a threat to the pecking order, maybe our most primitive social structure but one that's as vibrant as ever. The group at the top is having their authority challenged by a caste of untouchables further down. Actually, gays were worse than untouchable, they were unmentionable–the love that dare not speak its name. To have risen within the span of a generation to demand complete social equality with WASPs is a startling upset, and it's no surprise that there's not just resistance but panic on the upper deck.
And to add gasoline to the fire, the conflict is not about low-cut jeans or welfare policy, it's about sex rules. Rules about who you can have sex with and when are the most important weapon in the arsenal of social control. The major religions have spread to billions of people by grabbing adherents by the gonads, requiring them not to have sex on the side, to marry within the faith, and to pass the same rules on to their children while they're young and impressionable. Not by coincidence, conservatives see sex rules as vital pillars of civilization and defend them zealously. StockBoy is right, it's about power, but it's not about individual cruelty or hatred, it's about people defending their caste's belief system and their collective position in the pecking order.
Why are some people homosexuals is a question I have heard and read about more then once.
Homosexuality can be genetic and homosexuals rarely have children. How then is the genetic predisposition
for homosexuality passed on? There are reasons why we behave as we do and these
reasons are rooted in our genetic past. We will not come to a better understanding of why
we do the things we do by ducking into the closet of delusion. “ It is that way because
God did it that way” is not an explanation. Nor can we begin to address the problems of
human behavior based on such an explanation. This is one of the many things I have learned and had my many questions answered from M.A. Curtis' book, Dominance & Delusion.