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Some Compelling Math For Republicans

A few days ago I posted about the demise of the moderate wing of the Republican party. To expand on that I decided to run some statistics on the relative Republican and Democratic positions in 1980 versus today, as well as give a bit of a look at the future math. To say the least the figures are not encouraging for the Republicans though we all know that numbers do not always play out as expected.

For purposes of my analysis I looked at two regions of the country, one generally seen as Democratic and one generally seen as Republican. The Democratic region consists of the Northeast (New England, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Maryland, West Virginia and Delaware) plus the three Pacific coast states of California, Oregon and Washington. The Republican region is made up of the states of Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia.

In 1980 the Democrats controlled majorities in both regions but the numbers were reasonably balanced. In  the Northeast/Pacific region the 30 Senate seats were split 15-15 while on the House side out of 167 seats the Democrats had an edge of 99-68. This meant they had about 58% of the overall seats. A majority but with a strong GOP presence. Today that has shifted to where the Democrats control 27 out of 30 Senate seats and 121 out of 162 House seats which gives them 75% of the seats.

So in the Northeast the GOP  has gone from a strong minority to a near wipeout.

Looking to the Southern region, in 1980 the Democrats also had an edge (largely due to conservative Democrats who generally voted Republican on issues). In the Senate out of 24 Senate Seats it was a 16-12 Democrat edge while out of 130 House seats they had an 80-50 edge. This gave them about 60% of the overall seats. Today the GOP has gained, holding a 18-10 edge in Senate seats and 55-50 advantage in the House. This gives the GOP about 55% of the total seats.

So in the South the GOP has certainly taken control but the Democrats remain a very strong minority and could make further gains in the next election. In 1980 both parties were strong in both regions, even if the Democrats tended to control the Northeast and the GOP/Conservative Dems tended to control the South. Today the Dems remain a factor in the South while the GOP is wiped out in the Northeast.

Looking in how this might impact the future, the math is an uphill battle for Republican gains. For purposes of this analysis I divided states into 3 categories. Category 1 are states where, barring some unusual development, the voters will tend to elect 2 Democratic senators, Category 2 are states where they would do the same for Republicans and Category 3 are are states where either side could win.

In the Democratic camp I find at least 20 states: California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin.

In the Republican Camp I found 12 states: Alabama, Alaska, Georgia, Idaho,Kansas, Mississippi, Nebraska, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, Utah and Wyoming.

So that leaves 18 states in play.

It means that generally speaking the Democrats would start with 40 seats to 24 for the GOP. If they split the remaining 36 seats 50/50 you get a 58-42 Democratic Senate (not far off what we currently have). For the GOP to take control they’d need to win 26 out of 36 seats or over 70% of them.

Of course there will be times where factors play into the GOP hands to help get past this math but the fact is that the figures are not on the side of the GOP when it comes to Senate control.

The same issue plays into the Electoral College where the Democrats can pretty much count on about 225-250 Electoral Votes in almost any election while the GOP base is closer to 150-175. Again, the GOP can win things by taking most of the tossup states and in good years some of the Democratic base. But right off the bat the Democrats only need to win about 35% of the tossup states to have a majority.

I have not done a detailed analysis on the House yet but suspect the figures would be similar.

People have talked about whether President Obama is the new FDR. I can’t say for sure whether he will have that kind of an impact or if he will win the large victories FDR did. But I do think we are probably in a new 1932 in an electoral sense.

After 1932 the Republicans did not take control of the Congress until 1946, then only held it for 2 years. They took it again in the 50’s and not again until the 80’s and 90s’. On the Presidential level it took 20 years for the GOP to make a comeback and then things tended to go back and forth.

So I don’t think that we are in for a one party state. I don’t think the GOP will be totally out of power for decades to come but I do think that generally speaking the Republicans will find majority control periods to be far less common than they have been over the last 10-15 years.

  • elrod
    Good analysis! Nebraska probably belongs in the 1-1 category as it's had a Democratic Senator for decades now. It also gave one of its Electoral Votes to Obama this year.
  • jwest
    There are very few things in this world that are absolute certainties, but one that is inarguable is that Democrats overreach when in power.

    All the math you need to know was laid out in 1994, when the GOP took both houses, numerous governorships, state houses etc.

    Four years ago even the NY Times was writing about a “permanent Republican majority”, and now we have people calculating with geometric precision how the Democrats are securely in power for the next 100 years.

    Right. Good luck with that.
  • Rudi
    LOL jwest - what do you call the over reach of Nixon and W? Please explain when the Democrats invaded and over reached like the Schiavo probate case. Family and state rights with Schiavo - Right!!
  • elrod
    jwest is right. The Democrats will overreach. The only question is how badly will they overreach, and will the Republicans be considered a viable enough opposition to take advantage. At this point, a Democratic overreach would lead merely to low turnout and little turnover. The GOP hasn't offered a compelling reason right now for swing voters - few as they are - to switch to to the GOP. As long as the GOP continues to press to the right, the chances of them taking advantage of a Democratic overreach diminish. This isn't 1994 anymore.
  • bellisaurius
    Given that political parties are composed of people, who are capable of feedback, why would the republican party vanish when it can simply reinvent itself around a new set of issues, or at least a suite of problems that it feels it can solve better than the other guy.

    Individuals may be hardline, but given time, groups of people can change their opinions.
  • I agree that the GOP is not doomed, I do not expect them to remain out of power forever.

    But most of the blue/Democratic states I mentioned are pretty close to solid for Dems even without swing voters.

    So while certainly the Democrats will overreach and give the GOP openings, even a 2-1 GOP split in the tossup states would still mean a more or less 50/50 Senate.

    If you look at the pattern of the 20th century (say 1932-2000) you had a period of about 50 years or so where the Democrats tended to be in the majority but the GOP sometimes took control. Then you had the period of back and forth control. My analysis merely is saying that the future is likely to resemble that 1932-1980 period.
  • mlhradio
    Even a broken clock (jwest) is right twice a day.

    When in power, the Democrats eventually "overreach". Same thing happens when the Republicans are in power. I see politics in America somewhat like a giant pendulum - once the political winds sway too far to the left or the right, they inevitably will swing back. And the farther it swings in one direction, the hard and faster the reciprocal swing.

    It's not a matter of whether or not the Democrats will get full of themselves - it's just a matter of how much, and how fast. The neocons did their best to push that pendulum as far to the right as possible and keep it there -- well, we saw how well that worked for them. One could argue exactly when the pendulum reached its farthest right point - I think the breaking point was in the fall of 2005, on the day the levees broke in New Orleans. Since that point the pendulum has been swinging farther and farther left, and from all polls and indications it appears to *still* be edging left even today. How far will it go? When will it stop? We won't really know until after the fact - but I am convinced that it eventually will swing back to the right. Two years, four years, six years from now we may have switched from a center-left nation back to a center-right nation once again - and the cycle starts all over again.
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