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I had been bullied in school, disowned by various friends and family, and yet the innate person I have been created to be had only one choice: “To thine own self be true”. Years of hiding, wasted effort in being someone everyone but myself wanted me to be, lead me to being the man I am today. Regardless of how horrific it was to face being ousted by society and a very religious family, I found my own path. The rewards of heterosexual behavior were laid at my feet, and nothing changed the person I was meant to be.

The human species is hardly in danger of being phased out due to homosexuality. A quick check of the population escalations throughout the world, and the number of teen age unwed mothers should re-assure you, the gene pool is not in any danger. Learned scholars, politicians with degrees from Colleges and Universities through out the country backed legislation that “Interracial Marriages” should be outlawed and until 40 some odd years ago it was. Would love to see you use science to justify that belief and not face public ridicule and outrage, yet this country had laws prohibiting it. Men of great educations put those laws into effect, yet through the misuse of elegant words, a bible and hidden prejudice our country put discrimination into law.

I have been with my husband now for the last 15 years; we have attended my (2) weddings for my straight brother and helped him financially after both of his divorces. We now have the respect of our neighbors, friends and family. We own property a business and employ others, yet we pay more in taxes then a straight married couple with the same income. We spend a great deal more on attorney’s to protect what we’ve built together, and have helped many friends and family by bringing them into our home and getting them on their feet again. Sit down for this one, “WE GO TO CHURCH”, we vote, and we run 2 fund raisers a year one for a children’s charity and one for an animal shelter. We laugh, cry, fight, talk; we have good days, bad days, and everything in between, and we never go to bed mad at each other, and never forget how lucky we are to have each other.

To all those say we are pushing a gay agenda down people’s throats, we aren’t, we are simply tired of you pushing yours on us. How many gay couples would go to a restaurant and actually get to be a couple in public? How many gay couples get to walk hand in hand down the isle at someone’s wedding? How many gay couples can just kiss goodbye if someone is watching? You’ve forced negative and even hostile actions on us long enough. The negative training and positive re-enforcement training for YOUR desired life for our lives is never worked and it’s not even tolerated by us any longer. Additionally based on Miss Californa's comment, it's apparent that the current level of education in Californa should be a more pressing issue than my husband and I. Actually to be honest we find your fascination with our love life a bit wierd, we certainly didn't vote or approve of your love life, or want to for that matter. Seperate is never equal; I won't tolerate signs in Resturants that say “Straights Only” or seperate bathrooms (while there are some married senators that may have a different opinion on that), and I won't look for seperate water fountains.

So let Miss Californa know it's not a choice, the only choice is “To Thine Ownself Be True!”

The pageant loser (yes, I like the sound of that) had and has no intention of ever doing or saying anything positive regarding gay people, because her mega-church training won't allow it. That mega-church even equates being gay with pedophilia on its website. To hell with her, that church, and everyone who supports them! The British politician is gay and was on a comedy show. Later he said he would send her a box of candy — unpoisoned.

I don't care if anyone believes in the “rightness” of my position. The words of the Constitution are what they are and will rule in the end. The pageant has said, for publication, that she is a liar. I believe them (of course, but they still would not be so stupid as to libel her).

She also is pushing the counterfeit idea that Christians are being “victimized” unfairly. In THIS country which is totally overrun by Christians! She also lies every time she repeats that most Californians agree with her, citing the passage of Prop. “H8″. That is a complete fabrication. A small majority of the people who voted in that election passed H8. That is nowhere near a majority of the people in Calif. And many of the people who voted for H8 did so because of the lies from the massive out-of-state religious campaign in favor of H8 — the same supremacist people, churches, groups, etc., that did the same thing in the same way to pass the (un-Calif.-Constitutional) state referendum against same-gender marriage.

What she said to an international audience, in response to a question she knew in advance was on the list of questions to be asked, a question approved in advance by the pageant, WAS despicable and completely unacceptable. Her “I represent the majority” cover story (taught to her by her mega-church and its cult of personality) just doesn't stand up to inspection.

STATEMENT FROM KEITH LEWIS:

Given the fact that Carrie Prejean's first act upon returning to California was to headline five services at a church that promotes homosexuality as both unnatural and abnormal, we stand by our concern for her individual image and look forward to a time in the near future when she can put down her personal agenda and assume the responsibilities associated with being MISS CALIFORNIA USA including promoting our official platform “The Beauty of California” which sole purpose is to embrace diversity.

Lizzie Grubman Public Relations
424 West 33rd Street Suite 110
New York, NY 10001

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Keith Lewis is:

http://misscaliforniausa.com/producers.html

This information was not reflected in the video with her, and she has done the opposite of wanting to or choosing to “heal some wounds.” Instead, she has taken every opportunity for self-aggrandizement and personal gain by continuing to grind salt into the wounds she has intentionally caused.

The public relations agent for the Miss California pageant is taking exception with Carrie Prejean's account of what contest officials said to her following her statement on same-sex marriage at the Miss USA pageant.

Prejean claimed during Sunday services at her San Diego church that producers of the state pageant told her to apologize to the gay community and to avoid mentioning religion when she appeared on the “Today” show.

But public relations representative Roger Neal on Monday called those claims lies. Neal says he was one of the people who attempted to advise the Prejean. According to him, Prejean was urged to reiterate she didn't mean to offend anyone, and to use the national spotlight “to heal some wounds.”

Prejean didn't immediately return a call from The Associated Press.

http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=10259109

She belongs to “The Rock” personality-pastored mega-church here in San Diego, one of the worst kind of self-centered theology-seeking pits of christohet suprmacy, where this Sunday she was on their gigantic stage being hailed as a “heroine.” That's a christian heroine, no other kind.

“I think I was representing my state, which is California, and the majority of people in the nation that they believe marriage is between a man and a woman,” Prejean said.

The 21-year-old San Diego Christian college student says she has no regrets about her answer in the Miss USA pageant. She spoke about her experience at her hometown church, The Rock Church in Point Loma, where she sent a message to stand firm in your beliefs, regardless if it's popular or not.

“It's about challenging others to when you're put on the spot, stand up for what you believe in and you don't always have to be politically correct,” Prejean said.

Her pastor Miles McPherson says it was clear her words resonated.

“This last week was a big wake up call for everyone to see how intolerant some people can be and how we need to not be intimidated for standing up for what we believe,” McPherson said.

The controversy is something Prejean's parents admit has brought them closer together.

“I'm very proud of her, her dad and I are very, very proud,” Prejean's mother Francine Coppola said. “She stood by her god, her faith and her convictions. That's how she was raised.”

Unfortunately for her, and fortunately for the rule of law, she lost because she is an amateur bigot. She'll get better, as they all do, as she gets more paid anti-gay gigs under her belt.

She's also a liar, according to the pageant, which said it tried to get her afterward to minimize the pain she caused, not to withdraw her statements. They tried to get her to say again that she didn't want to cause offense to anyone (because clearly no one believed a word of it the first time, and they shouldn't have because she is very convinced of her selfish bible-thumping answer) though she was very pleased with herself.

She does not care about anyone but herself and her own beliefs, which is why she lost. She was representing herself and proved herself incapable of representing the nation. From her unscripted words it is obvious that she cannot see gay people as even belonging to the same country she does.

“In MY country”! It's OUR country, and you creeps will NOT be allowed to take it over and rule it for christianity.

It is also a mainstream U.S. position not to tolerate the intolerant, for example racists. She wasn't even speaking for herself, she was parroting her cult of personality mega-church's pastor, and she was speaking for christians and for god.

Here's a brief local news story and part of a video interview. The entire “heroine” show on stage at church was much more revealing. http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=10257540

You also fail to acknowledge that humanity has had periods in which same-sex attraction were socially sanctioned, celebrated, sometimes even glorified. This failed to corrosively 'contaminate' the surrounding heterosexually inclined, for if it had, your doomsday predictions would have long since come to pass.

The fact is, we are not simply endocrinally driven mammalian dreck as easily programmed as a horse. You vastly oversimplify complex scientific processes that we, ourselves, in the Genetic community are still not anywhere near sure of. You present ideas as though they are established fact, when you have nothing more than self-serving conjectures. I cannot say that I know what the presence of exclusively homosexual inclinations in the various mammalian species that we have observed engaging in it means in the longer history of advanced life on Earth, but I can certainly discount your “budding” and “Gender Competition” theories as absolute postulation. You have no idea the factual data you would need to even remotely approach such a postulation seriously. Further, even philosophers could easily impeach your arguments without any scientific notions.

You are setting out to prove that homosexuality is wrong, and inventing science to reach an established means. Science does not work that way. Politics? Sure Politics works that way, but not Science.

Sexual drives are complex, poorly understood mechanisms in the tapestry of life on Earth that may have multiple, multiple reasons for existing and manifesting in the forms it does. The preponderance of exclusively homosexual feral populations observed throughout the Mammalian spectrum, if nothing else, strongly suggest a genetic need for exclusive homosexual populations in mammalian populations and societies. Life does not grind forward simply to procreate; it grinds forward to live, and procreation is demonstrated time and again to simply be a consequence of this.

Resorting to Faux intellectualism that no critically reviewed or investigated scientist or scientific body would dare to put forward is insulting, both to educated scientists like me and the respected study of life that we in the scientific community engage in. You are a thinking person, I cannot disagree, but you're Kevin Cline in “A Fish Called Wanda,” not Walter Matthau in “I.Q.”

And pardon me for making a legal point, but I was under the impression that the 14th Amendment (equal protection under the law) applied to everyone. If gay people are paying equal taxes, they have every right to prosecute for equal treatment.

First, Sil — humans are actually different than horses. I know it's hard to believe, but that's actually true. We're also different from frogs. We can learn from chimps that there is evolutionary advantage to killing your neighbor's kids and for men to sleep with as many women as possible. But, we are not chimps, and we don't consider those things “right” just because it will further the species.

Also, I don't care whether being gay is innate or learned; I think it's a mistake to think of it in those terms. Sil, you must never have talked to a gay person, seriously. We see every mammal out there exhibiting homosexual behaviors, but as I say above, we are not animals, and it doesn't matter anyway. We confer civil rights to people who make all sorts of choices. We know for darn sure that religion is a choice, and we're not allowed to discriminate on that basis. Sure, if we as a society become more tolerant of gay people, we'll probably see more gay people — not necessarily because there will be more gay people, but because gay people won't fear for their lives/reputations/jobs/etc due to their sexual orientation. Crazy, that.

As for the original post, there were many ways she could have stated her opinion on the topic without coming off like she did.

This: “Remember that marriage policy until 1996 was wholly a matter for the states.” Just not true. Already mentioned, loving vs virginia.

One more gab at Sil, just 'cause: “The proponents of free speech and equality want the pagent girl shut-down.

You can speak freely, only if it agrees with the radical left [or neocons].”

Your right to say stupid things does not in any way mean that I have to give you a shiny crown for it. There is a difference between (a) being intolerant of people due to their race, sexual orientation, disability, gender, etc, and (b) being intolerant of another person's racism, homophobia, abilism, or sexism. In other words, you have a right to say idiotic things, and I have a right to point out your idiocy. Both are shining examples of free speech.