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		<title>By: Translations Blog: Trusted Translations</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/29929/swine-flu-update-planning/comment-page-1/#comment-189453</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Tony Bennett Video at St. Jude Gala Organized by Trusted Translations...&lt;/strong&gt;

On May 28, 2009, St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital, featuring special guest Tony Bennett,  held a black tie, red carpet event to help raise funds. The charity event was organized by Richard Estevez, CEO of Trusted Translations, Inc.

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<p>On May 28, 2009, St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital, featuring special guest Tony Bennett,  held a black tie, red carpet event to help raise funds. The charity event was organized by Richard Estevez, CEO of Trusted Translations, Inc.</p>
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		<title>By: tutmosis</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/29929/swine-flu-update-planning/comment-page-1/#comment-182438</link>
		<dc:creator>tutmosis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a 58 years male and I have been reading about Vitamin C by 28 years. I have found a lot of missunderstanding information and many people talks without trustable scientific and clinical support.  Many scientific papers support that some people say things without clinical investigations and scientific evidence. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; I have cured myself of very difficult to cure prostatitis probably because  rising my defenses, also all types of viruses illnes and have attacked flu and destroyed it just during incipient symtoms with high doses of Vitamin C, 10 or 15 grams orally per day.  I have done this for several years, also with my parents. So far no adverse effects. Vitamine C is being used intravenous to treat many illness including cancer in may countries. The truth is IT WORKS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a 58 years male and I have been reading about Vitamin C by 28 years. I have found a lot of missunderstanding information and many people talks without trustable scientific and clinical support.  Many scientific papers support that some people say things without clinical investigations and scientific evidence. </p>
<p> I have cured myself of very difficult to cure prostatitis probably because  rising my defenses, also all types of viruses illnes and have attacked flu and destroyed it just during incipient symtoms with high doses of Vitamin C, 10 or 15 grams orally per day.  I have done this for several years, also with my parents. So far no adverse effects. Vitamine C is being used intravenous to treat many illness including cancer in may countries. The truth is IT WORKS.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/29929/swine-flu-update-planning/comment-page-1/#comment-182056</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks CS. I never claimed the evidence is all in on alternative therapies like high dose vit C. But if I had an active case of ANY viral infection, I&#039;d sure try it. It&#039;s safe and doesn&#039;t interfere with other treatments. I&#039;m not a crusader on this topic at all. Just want to highlight for readers that there is intriguing news about high dose vitamin C.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;All children got conventional therapy, antitetanus serum, sedatives, antibiotics, etc. Additionally, subjects in the experimental group got 1 gram of intravenous vitamin C daily. None of the children in the experimental group died; 74 percent of the children in the control group died. Dramatic benefits for tetanus patients aged 13 to 30 years were also found. Two-day-old chicks receiving fatal doses of strychnine survived with injections of vitamin C. &lt;br&gt;[note: tetanus is bacterial, not viral]&lt;br&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nat. Acad of Sciences found high dose vitamin C kills cancer cells in the blood, but not normal cells, apparently by increasing hydrogen peroxide in the serum. (IV Hydrogen peroxide therapy is another controversial treatment that may be valuable.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;About flu vaccine: In a February 2005 issue of the Archives of Internal Medicine, researchers for the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases compared flu-related mortality among older people to rates of immunization. Their finding: During the past quarter century, immunization rates for the elderly have climbed substantially while the elderly flu-related mortality rate has stayed the same.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The authors of the research wrote: &quot;We conclude that observational studies substantially overestimate vaccination benefit.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One of the reasons vitamin C was first investigated for bird flu, is that the symptoms are identical to scurvy, probably indicating that fighting the virus depletes vitamin C in the body.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;There isn&#039;t enough research to date to gain FDA approval of high dose vitamin C, but there is more than enough to justify some serious research. However, since our drug approval system is geared exclusively toward patentable monosubstance synthetic chemicals, that probably won&#039;t happen here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks CS. I never claimed the evidence is all in on alternative therapies like high dose vit C. But if I had an active case of ANY viral infection, I&#39;d sure try it. It&#39;s safe and doesn&#39;t interfere with other treatments. I&#39;m not a crusader on this topic at all. Just want to highlight for readers that there is intriguing news about high dose vitamin C.</p>
<blockquote><p>All children got conventional therapy, antitetanus serum, sedatives, antibiotics, etc. Additionally, subjects in the experimental group got 1 gram of intravenous vitamin C daily. None of the children in the experimental group died; 74 percent of the children in the control group died. Dramatic benefits for tetanus patients aged 13 to 30 years were also found. Two-day-old chicks receiving fatal doses of strychnine survived with injections of vitamin C. <br />[note: tetanus is bacterial, not viral]</p></blockquote>
<p>Nat. Acad of Sciences found high dose vitamin C kills cancer cells in the blood, but not normal cells, apparently by increasing hydrogen peroxide in the serum. (IV Hydrogen peroxide therapy is another controversial treatment that may be valuable.)</p>
<blockquote><p>About flu vaccine: In a February 2005 issue of the Archives of Internal Medicine, researchers for the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases compared flu-related mortality among older people to rates of immunization. Their finding: During the past quarter century, immunization rates for the elderly have climbed substantially while the elderly flu-related mortality rate has stayed the same.</p>
<p>The authors of the research wrote: &#8220;We conclude that observational studies substantially overestimate vaccination benefit.&#8221;</p>
<p>One of the reasons vitamin C was first investigated for bird flu, is that the symptoms are identical to scurvy, probably indicating that fighting the virus depletes vitamin C in the body.</p></blockquote>
<p>There isn&#39;t enough research to date to gain FDA approval of high dose vitamin C, but there is more than enough to justify some serious research. However, since our drug approval system is geared exclusively toward patentable monosubstance synthetic chemicals, that probably won&#39;t happen here.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/29929/swine-flu-update-planning/comment-page-1/#comment-182028</link>
		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GD, I gotta mention that not only is an anecdote just an anecdote (not evidence), but also the West Nile Virus is a very different pathogen than a highly virulent strain of influenza. WNV isn&#039;t a strong pathogen unless you&#039;re immune compromised- so that&#039;s why immune stimulation might be helpful. But highly pathogenic viruses attack so swiftly that you have to go about treatment in a very different manner.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Big Pharma may be guilty of a lot of things, but you don&#039;t give their researchers enough credit (plus the fact that virology and the research regarding methods to disrupt viral replication is not as subject to the whims of marketing because government health agencies put a good bit of funding into the pot to find ways to deal with pandemics.) The antiviral drugs generally do work against flu viruses, but the problems are going to be in manufacturing and distributing sufficient quantities of them when needed, and in possible acquired resistance to the drugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GD, I gotta mention that not only is an anecdote just an anecdote (not evidence), but also the West Nile Virus is a very different pathogen than a highly virulent strain of influenza. WNV isn&#39;t a strong pathogen unless you&#39;re immune compromised- so that&#39;s why immune stimulation might be helpful. But highly pathogenic viruses attack so swiftly that you have to go about treatment in a very different manner.</p>
<p>Big Pharma may be guilty of a lot of things, but you don&#39;t give their researchers enough credit (plus the fact that virology and the research regarding methods to disrupt viral replication is not as subject to the whims of marketing because government health agencies put a good bit of funding into the pot to find ways to deal with pandemics.) The antiviral drugs generally do work against flu viruses, but the problems are going to be in manufacturing and distributing sufficient quantities of them when needed, and in possible acquired resistance to the drugs.</p>
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		<title>By: mlhradio</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is quite disconcerting that as a preventative measure, the closed a high school a few miles up the road for an entire week - as a preventative measure because two of the (currently) eleven confirmed cases in the US happened there.  I&#039;m sure that there are plenty of people in town that are positively freaking out already, chicken little style.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;...And the nutcases are already coming out of the woodwork.  My favorite unnecessarily-political comment in the local paper this afternoon:  &quot;The idiocRAT lieberals are going to kill us all. Open the borders so the pestilence can spring forth upon America. Impeach Obama NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!&quot;  Yeah....riiiiiiggghht.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Conspiracy theories are abounding.  Another comment:  &quot;On this flu, it is clearly genetically engineered since it uses genes from three diverse sources (birds, monkey, pigs?). It is a man-made virus that has been created for malicious purposes. Where is USARNORTH, are they not the &#039;vanguards&#039; to &#039;save&#039; and &#039;protect&#039; US citizens from this mess? Or, is this a trial run of Bird Flu at this school?&quot;  More conspiracy - here&#039;s a recording of a caller to a radio program talking in detail about the DHS transporting the bird flu by truck: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qJQCJp4ehc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qJQCJp4ehc&lt;/a&gt; .  And lots of people are making hay that the first person to die in Mexico from the swine flu last week was greeted by Obama the day before: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=aEsNownABJ6Q&amp;refer=worldwide&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suppose the conspiracy theory nuts jumping on the story is totally inevitable, considering how information spreads through the web with such alacrity these days - but putting the alarm aside it is quite entertaining to watch the rumor mill spread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is quite disconcerting that as a preventative measure, the closed a high school a few miles up the road for an entire week &#8211; as a preventative measure because two of the (currently) eleven confirmed cases in the US happened there.  I&#39;m sure that there are plenty of people in town that are positively freaking out already, chicken little style.</p>
<p>&#8230;And the nutcases are already coming out of the woodwork.  My favorite unnecessarily-political comment in the local paper this afternoon:  &#8220;The idiocRAT lieberals are going to kill us all. Open the borders so the pestilence can spring forth upon America. Impeach Obama NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!&#8221;  Yeah&#8230;.riiiiiiggghht.</p>
<p>Conspiracy theories are abounding.  Another comment:  &#8220;On this flu, it is clearly genetically engineered since it uses genes from three diverse sources (birds, monkey, pigs?). It is a man-made virus that has been created for malicious purposes. Where is USARNORTH, are they not the &#39;vanguards&#39; to &#39;save&#39; and &#39;protect&#39; US citizens from this mess? Or, is this a trial run of Bird Flu at this school?&#8221;  More conspiracy &#8211; here&#39;s a recording of a caller to a radio program talking in detail about the DHS transporting the bird flu by truck: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qJQCJp4ehc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qJQCJp4ehc</a> .  And lots of people are making hay that the first person to die in Mexico from the swine flu last week was greeted by Obama the day before: <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&#038;sid=aEsNownABJ6Q&#038;refer=worldwide" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&#8230;</a></p>
<p>I suppose the conspiracy theory nuts jumping on the story is totally inevitable, considering how information spreads through the web with such alacrity these days &#8211; but putting the alarm aside it is quite entertaining to watch the rumor mill spread.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/29929/swine-flu-update-planning/comment-page-1/#comment-182016</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I related an anecdote, which is both true and verified by our health department. My friend is over 70 years old and once west nile was confirmed, he was expected to have a very tough time with it. He had a MD administer (from memory, so don&#039;t try this at home) 75 grams of vitamin C one day and I believe about twice that the next. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A physician friend, working in Asia, has found it effective against bird flu, in humans. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t be so sure, big pharma, You&#039;ve been wrong before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I related an anecdote, which is both true and verified by our health department. My friend is over 70 years old and once west nile was confirmed, he was expected to have a very tough time with it. He had a MD administer (from memory, so don&#39;t try this at home) 75 grams of vitamin C one day and I believe about twice that the next. </p>
<p>A physician friend, working in Asia, has found it effective against bird flu, in humans. </p>
<p>Don&#39;t be so sure, big pharma, You&#39;ve been wrong before.</p>
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		<title>By: BigPharma</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/29929/swine-flu-update-planning/comment-page-1/#comment-182005</link>
		<dc:creator>BigPharma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try not to spread misinformation GreenDreams, Vitamin C does not cure West Nile, or any type of flu or virus. Unless you have scurvy there is no reason to have high doses of Vitamin C exept to have your dollars extracted from you from snake oil salesman.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Notice that the above article only sites other Orthomecular places and not peer reviewed research, except in the case of scurvy)&lt;br&gt;About Vitamin C&lt;br&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/118tFm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/118tFm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;About &quot;Orthomolecular Medicine&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthomolecular_medicine&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthomolecular_med...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/qh7uU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/qh7uU&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try not to spread misinformation GreenDreams, Vitamin C does not cure West Nile, or any type of flu or virus. Unless you have scurvy there is no reason to have high doses of Vitamin C exept to have your dollars extracted from you from snake oil salesman.</p>
<p>(Notice that the above article only sites other Orthomecular places and not peer reviewed research, except in the case of scurvy)<br />About Vitamin C<br /> <a href="http://bit.ly/118tFm" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/118tFm</a></p>
<p>About &#8220;Orthomolecular Medicine&#8221;<br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthomolecular_medicine" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthomolecular_med&#8230;</a><br /> <a href="http://bit.ly/qh7uU" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/qh7uU</a></p>
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		<title>By: Swine flu? What happened to the bird flu? &#171; The TrogloPundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swine flu? What happened to the bird flu? &#171; The TrogloPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is scary and thanks, GreenDreams for the link!</description>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine was cured of West Nile virus in 2 days using intravenous vitamin C. Should you be unfortunate and contract swine flu, bird flu or other serious viral disease, you might want to keep this in mind. Since it&#039;s generic and nonpatentable, you won&#039;t find it in the therapeutic arsenal of mainstream medicine, or in widespread use even in the event of a &quot;pandemic&quot;. Keep it in mind.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v01n12.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v0...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine was cured of West Nile virus in 2 days using intravenous vitamin C. Should you be unfortunate and contract swine flu, bird flu or other serious viral disease, you might want to keep this in mind. Since it&#39;s generic and nonpatentable, you won&#39;t find it in the therapeutic arsenal of mainstream medicine, or in widespread use even in the event of a &#8220;pandemic&#8221;. Keep it in mind.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v01n12.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v0&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: kathyedits</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very scary.</description>
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