Comments on: Michael Hayden: Critical Analysis is Dangerous, M’Kay? http://themoderatevoice.com/29756/michael-hayden-critical-analysis-is-dangerous-mkay/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:37:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: ChrisWWW http://themoderatevoice.com/29756/michael-hayden-critical-analysis-is-dangerous-mkay/comment-page-1/#comment-181629 ChrisWWW Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:06:50 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=29756#comment-181629 Oh no... poor CIA interrogators might be reluctant to torture their prisoners. What's the world coming to? Oh no… poor CIA interrogators might be reluctant to torture their prisoners. What's the world coming to?

]]> By: GreenDreams http://themoderatevoice.com/29756/michael-hayden-critical-analysis-is-dangerous-mkay/comment-page-1/#comment-181618 GreenDreams Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:37:18 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=29756#comment-181618 SD, I WANT a culture in which people are hesitant to do reprehensible, subhuman, indecent and illegal things. Don't you? Remember, we executed Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American soldiers. Of COURSE I expect us to treat our prisoners the way we expect ours to be treated. SD, I WANT a culture in which people are hesitant to do reprehensible, subhuman, indecent and illegal things. Don't you? Remember, we executed Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American soldiers. Of COURSE I expect us to treat our prisoners the way we expect ours to be treated.

]]> By: D. E.Rodriguez http://themoderatevoice.com/29756/michael-hayden-critical-analysis-is-dangerous-mkay/comment-page-1/#comment-181586 D. E.Rodriguez Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:02:38 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=29756#comment-181586 Where and when have I heard this before? "I was just following orders?" Where and when have I heard this before? “I was just following orders?”

]]> By: truflo http://themoderatevoice.com/29756/michael-hayden-critical-analysis-is-dangerous-mkay/comment-page-1/#comment-181585 truflo Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:01:02 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=29756#comment-181585 "And I say, “Well, it’s authorized by the president. The attorney general says it’s lawful. And it’s been briefed to Congress.” That agency officer’s going to say, “Yeah, I know, but I see what’s going on here now. Have you run it by the ACLU? "<br><br>It is not the release of the memos that have created this situation. Fact is, no president can authorise torture (it is against the law). And so, no AG can sign off on such an authorisation (it is not in his power to change the law). This is why so many within the Bush administration and the itelligence community warned against the creation of these memos and questioned the reasoning behind them. They were bogus, which is the reason Philip Zelikow wrote is own dissenting memo, and why the administration destroyed it.<br><br>The CIA's problem is not Obama, its that they were led for so long by people like Hayden. “And I say, “Well, it’s authorized by the president. The attorney general says it’s lawful. And it’s been briefed to Congress.” That agency officer’s going to say, “Yeah, I know, but I see what’s going on here now. Have you run it by the ACLU? “

It is not the release of the memos that have created this situation. Fact is, no president can authorise torture (it is against the law). And so, no AG can sign off on such an authorisation (it is not in his power to change the law). This is why so many within the Bush administration and the itelligence community warned against the creation of these memos and questioned the reasoning behind them. They were bogus, which is the reason Philip Zelikow wrote is own dissenting memo, and why the administration destroyed it.

The CIA's problem is not Obama, its that they were led for so long by people like Hayden.

]]> By: superdestroyer http://themoderatevoice.com/29756/michael-hayden-critical-analysis-is-dangerous-mkay/comment-page-1/#comment-181577 superdestroyer Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:54:14 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=29756#comment-181577 Creating a culture where people are hesitate to do anything for fear of being second guessed is not a flaw of the Obama policy, it is a feature. The people staffing the White House have hated the CIA for decades. Creating a policy where little is anything can be done is part of the plan. Creating a culture where people are hesitate to do anything for fear of being second guessed is not a flaw of the Obama policy, it is a feature. The people staffing the White House have hated the CIA for decades. Creating a policy where little is anything can be done is part of the plan.

]]> By: GreenDreams http://themoderatevoice.com/29756/michael-hayden-critical-analysis-is-dangerous-mkay/comment-page-1/#comment-181568 GreenDreams Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:00:43 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=29756#comment-181568 well said. I can't believe for a minute that anyone doing these things did not know it was wrong. Nor anyone ordering the doing of these things. well said. I can't believe for a minute that anyone doing these things did not know it was wrong. Nor anyone ordering the doing of these things.

]]> By: SteveK http://themoderatevoice.com/29756/michael-hayden-critical-analysis-is-dangerous-mkay/comment-page-1/#comment-181554 SteveK Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:40:40 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/?p=29756#comment-181554 Nice post Scott... Thank you. Nice post Scott… Thank you.

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