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	<title>Comments on: Politico&#8217;s Mike Allen Grants Anonymity to Senior Bush Official to Attack Obama on Release of Torture Memos</title>
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		<title>By: RevDave</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/29385/politicos-mike-allen-grants-anonymity-to-senior-bush-official-to-attack-obama-on-release-of-torture-memos/comment-page-1/#comment-180934</link>
		<dc:creator>RevDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Allen is a very credible reporter - to Republicans, otherwise he is well known as a water carrier and TV suck up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Allen is a very credible reporter &#8211; to Republicans, otherwise he is well known as a water carrier and TV suck up.</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/29385/politicos-mike-allen-grants-anonymity-to-senior-bush-official-to-attack-obama-on-release-of-torture-memos/comment-page-1/#comment-180760</link>
		<dc:creator>StockBoySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 05:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kathyedits, yeah, I think it probably is Addington.  But to be clear to anyone reading this... that is just pure speculation on my part....  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Still I&#039;d like to know if former top Bush administration officials actually gain credibility when they remain anonymous.  Because, for instance, Allen reported these comments and we all assume the former top Bush administration official is credible in order to be quoted.  But in reality it could be someone like Addington who would not be taken very seriously by the majority of people if he was given the attribution.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I believe hiding behind the cloak of anonymity actually increases the credibility of former top Bush admin figures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kathyedits, yeah, I think it probably is Addington.  But to be clear to anyone reading this&#8230; that is just pure speculation on my part&#8230;.  </p>
<p>Still I&#39;d like to know if former top Bush administration officials actually gain credibility when they remain anonymous.  Because, for instance, Allen reported these comments and we all assume the former top Bush administration official is credible in order to be quoted.  But in reality it could be someone like Addington who would not be taken very seriously by the majority of people if he was given the attribution.</p>
<p>So I believe hiding behind the cloak of anonymity actually increases the credibility of former top Bush admin figures.</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/29385/politicos-mike-allen-grants-anonymity-to-senior-bush-official-to-attack-obama-on-release-of-torture-memos/comment-page-1/#comment-180758</link>
		<dc:creator>StockBoySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 05:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GeorgeSorwell, about the Bushies not taking responsibility for their own policy:  I agree.  Good point!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GeorgeSorwell, about the Bushies not taking responsibility for their own policy:  I agree.  Good point!</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/29385/politicos-mike-allen-grants-anonymity-to-senior-bush-official-to-attack-obama-on-release-of-torture-memos/comment-page-1/#comment-180753</link>
		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 04:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real story is nobody from the Bush Administration wants to publicly defend torture. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;None of them will take public responsibility for their own policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real story is nobody from the Bush Administration wants to publicly defend torture. </p>
<p>None of them will take public responsibility for their own policy.</p>
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		<title>By: kathyedits</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathyedits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 02:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m guessing the official was either Addington or Feith. But more likely Addington. The ad hominem attacks sound like Addington, from what I&#039;ve read about him. And I&#039;ve read a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m guessing the official was either Addington or Feith. But more likely Addington. The ad hominem attacks sound like Addington, from what I&#39;ve read about him. And I&#39;ve read a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/29385/politicos-mike-allen-grants-anonymity-to-senior-bush-official-to-attack-obama-on-release-of-torture-memos/comment-page-1/#comment-180741</link>
		<dc:creator>StockBoySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 01:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as the top Bush administration official remaining anonymous....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What&#039;s interesting is that Cheney&#039;s poll numbers are so low that only the GOP faithful like him.  So if this were said by Cheney (and I don&#039;t believe it was because Cheney is no shrinking violet) most people would not have listened to him.  But we know other top Bush administration officials who supported the program.... Gonzales and Addington come to mind....  And I don&#039;t think either of these people command much respect from most Americans (and perhaps it was Addington or Gonzales who provided the quote and ad hominem attacks).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If we knew the name of the former top Bush administration official, would he be deemed as credible as someone who remains anonymous?  By remaining anonymous, and quoted by Allen, this former top Bush administration official does gain credibility (even though it could be someone like Cheney or Gonzales or Addington).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But why should any former top Bush administration be deemed credible, especially in this, a program they either helped craft or helped keep secret (or both)?  As I asked in my comment above, I&#039;d like to know if this former Bush administration official believes that the US broke any law, whether domestic or international.  If he does think it&#039;s necessary to break international and/or domestic law, then does he believe in changing the law to do away with torture?  And if that were the case then he would be condoning torture of our soldiers, who by fighting are already in enough harm&#039;s way without having to add torture to the things to worry about.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are there ANY former top administration officials out there with any credibility?  Do they have to stoop to anonymity and be quoted by a journalist to have any credibility?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the top Bush administration official remaining anonymous&#8230;.</p>
<p>What&#39;s interesting is that Cheney&#39;s poll numbers are so low that only the GOP faithful like him.  So if this were said by Cheney (and I don&#39;t believe it was because Cheney is no shrinking violet) most people would not have listened to him.  But we know other top Bush administration officials who supported the program&#8230;. Gonzales and Addington come to mind&#8230;.  And I don&#39;t think either of these people command much respect from most Americans (and perhaps it was Addington or Gonzales who provided the quote and ad hominem attacks).  </p>
<p>If we knew the name of the former top Bush administration official, would he be deemed as credible as someone who remains anonymous?  By remaining anonymous, and quoted by Allen, this former top Bush administration official does gain credibility (even though it could be someone like Cheney or Gonzales or Addington).  </p>
<p>But why should any former top Bush administration be deemed credible, especially in this, a program they either helped craft or helped keep secret (or both)?  As I asked in my comment above, I&#39;d like to know if this former Bush administration official believes that the US broke any law, whether domestic or international.  If he does think it&#39;s necessary to break international and/or domestic law, then does he believe in changing the law to do away with torture?  And if that were the case then he would be condoning torture of our soldiers, who by fighting are already in enough harm&#39;s way without having to add torture to the things to worry about.</p>
<p>Are there ANY former top administration officials out there with any credibility?  Do they have to stoop to anonymity and be quoted by a journalist to have any credibility?</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>StockBoySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 01:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When people read our actual article, they’ll see that the headline and top two-thirds are an exclusive on David Axelrod’s behind-the-scenes description of the President’s decision-making process, followed by a shorter Bush view from a very high-level official whose opinion was available only on background — not ideal, but better than making readers wonder what the official Bush view is.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I thought we all knew what the official Bush view was. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;I figured that readers could decide whether the former Bush official’s comments sounded defensive or vindictive. And POLITICO readers aren’t so delicate that we have to deceptively pretend there’s no other side to a major issue. So at the bottom of the Axelrod story, I tacked on an ellipsized excerpt of the former Bush official’s quotes, removing several ad hominem attacks on Obama. I quoted less than half of the comment and took out the most incendiary parts...&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is a laugh...  first Allen, the author, wants to leave it to Politico&#039;s readers to decide whether the comments by the anonymous Bush official are defensive or vindictive.  But then Allen TAKES OUT OVER HALF of the comments, which in his view consists of ad hominem attacks on Obama.  Allen should either give the readers the full quote of the former Bush administration&#039;s official&#039;s comments so the readers can make a better judgement or not.  But better yet Allen should just not quote the source.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also I&#039;d like to know if this former Bush administration official believes that the US broke any law, whether domestic or international.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When people read our actual article, they’ll see that the headline and top two-thirds are an exclusive on David Axelrod’s behind-the-scenes description of the President’s decision-making process, followed by a shorter Bush view from a very high-level official whose opinion was available only on background — not ideal, but better than making readers wonder what the official Bush view is.&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought we all knew what the official Bush view was. </p>
<p>&#8220;I figured that readers could decide whether the former Bush official’s comments sounded defensive or vindictive. And POLITICO readers aren’t so delicate that we have to deceptively pretend there’s no other side to a major issue. So at the bottom of the Axelrod story, I tacked on an ellipsized excerpt of the former Bush official’s quotes, removing several ad hominem attacks on Obama. I quoted less than half of the comment and took out the most incendiary parts&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a laugh&#8230;  first Allen, the author, wants to leave it to Politico&#39;s readers to decide whether the comments by the anonymous Bush official are defensive or vindictive.  But then Allen TAKES OUT OVER HALF of the comments, which in his view consists of ad hominem attacks on Obama.  Allen should either give the readers the full quote of the former Bush administration&#39;s official&#39;s comments so the readers can make a better judgement or not.  But better yet Allen should just not quote the source.</p>
<p>Also I&#39;d like to know if this former Bush administration official believes that the US broke any law, whether domestic or international.</p>
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		<title>By: joeaudio</title>
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		<dc:creator>joeaudio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 00:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During the Libby trial, when it was revealed that Tim Russert was regularly used by Bushco as a tool to &quot;get the message out,&quot; a journalist with any integrity would have disappeared into the shadows in shame. But no, he kept going like he had never been exposed. Shameless.&lt;br&gt;The same could be said for Mike Allen. Zero integrity.&lt;br&gt;As long as the paycheck keeps coming, he&#039;ll continue being a tool.&lt;br&gt;Until he drops dead...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During the Libby trial, when it was revealed that Tim Russert was regularly used by Bushco as a tool to &#8220;get the message out,&#8221; a journalist with any integrity would have disappeared into the shadows in shame. But no, he kept going like he had never been exposed. Shameless.<br />The same could be said for Mike Allen. Zero integrity.<br />As long as the paycheck keeps coming, he&#39;ll continue being a tool.<br />Until he drops dead&#8230;</p>
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