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		<title>By: jchem</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/29056/the-obligatory-look-theres-a-tea-party-column/comment-page-1/#comment-180208</link>
		<dc:creator>jchem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the POTUS had an R for party affiliation, then these protests would probably just be made up of a bunch of folks from the other side protesting something else. I mean, we just had the 6-year reminder of the Iraq War in March and I didn&#039;t see a whole lot of protesting going on compared to years past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the POTUS had an R for party affiliation, then these protests would probably just be made up of a bunch of folks from the other side protesting something else. I mean, we just had the 6-year reminder of the Iraq War in March and I didn&#39;t see a whole lot of protesting going on compared to years past.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rambie said:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Some of these people cheer leading the parties now where nowhere to be seen on fiscal issues for the past 8 years. Great they&#039;ve arrived at the &quot;Party&quot; late but would they be singing the same tune if Nov worked out differently?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kind of sad that this is pretty much a rhetorical question due to the intense partisanship of many of the organizers.  I would have to say that no, they wouldn&#039;t be singing the same tune if the POTUS had an R for his party affiliation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rambie said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Some of these people cheer leading the parties now where nowhere to be seen on fiscal issues for the past 8 years. Great they&#39;ve arrived at the &#8220;Party&#8221; late but would they be singing the same tune if Nov worked out differently?&#8221;</p>
<p>Kind of sad that this is pretty much a rhetorical question due to the intense partisanship of many of the organizers.  I would have to say that no, they wouldn&#39;t be singing the same tune if the POTUS had an R for his party affiliation.</p>
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		<title>By: Rambie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rambie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davemartin7777, Jazz is far FAR from a Fox News talking head.  If you have read his posts it would be clear.   Bad form dude, bad form.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jazz, &quot;It is not at all unreasonable to disagree with the current administration’s profligate spending and the path they’ve chosen to address the financial crisis.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jazz, I know you didn&#039;t always agree with the Bush admin so I&#039;m not pointing at you.  Like DaGoat I have to wonder were all these fiscal conservatives were during the past 8 years and would they be piping up now if McCain had won.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;DG, &quot;The Tea Partiers are inconsistent hypocrites&quot;  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Agreed DaGoat, I have no issues with citizens using their rights to assemble and have a peaceful protest.   Some of these people cheer leading the parties now where nowhere to be seen on fiscal issues for the past 8 years.   Great they&#039;ve arrived at the &quot;Party&quot; late but would they be singing the same tune if Nov worked out differently?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davemartin7777, Jazz is far FAR from a Fox News talking head.  If you have read his posts it would be clear.   Bad form dude, bad form.  </p>
<p>Jazz, &#8220;It is not at all unreasonable to disagree with the current administration’s profligate spending and the path they’ve chosen to address the financial crisis.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jazz, I know you didn&#39;t always agree with the Bush admin so I&#39;m not pointing at you.  Like DaGoat I have to wonder were all these fiscal conservatives were during the past 8 years and would they be piping up now if McCain had won.  </p>
<p>DG, &#8220;The Tea Partiers are inconsistent hypocrites&#8221;  </p>
<p>Agreed DaGoat, I have no issues with citizens using their rights to assemble and have a peaceful protest.   Some of these people cheer leading the parties now where nowhere to be seen on fiscal issues for the past 8 years.   Great they&#39;ve arrived at the &#8220;Party&#8221; late but would they be singing the same tune if Nov worked out differently?</p>
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		<title>By: davemartin7777</title>
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		<dc:creator>davemartin7777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So I would advise those who disapprove to not try to interfere with these activiites.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First of all it&#039;s spelled &quot;activities&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Second, the honest thing for you to have done would have been to completely recuse yourself of this issue because you are obviously accepting money from Fox News, aren&#039;t you?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why don&#039;t you disclose that fact you&#039;re on Rupert Murdock&#039;s payroll?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your opinion on this issue could not be more disingenuous.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are you getting money from Fox News or not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So I would advise those who disapprove to not try to interfere with these activiites.&#8221;</p>
<p>First of all it&#39;s spelled &#8220;activities&#8221;.</p>
<p>Second, the honest thing for you to have done would have been to completely recuse yourself of this issue because you are obviously accepting money from Fox News, aren&#39;t you?</p>
<p>Why don&#39;t you disclose that fact you&#39;re on Rupert Murdock&#39;s payroll?</p>
<p>Your opinion on this issue could not be more disingenuous.</p>
<p>Are you getting money from Fox News or not?</p>
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		<title>By: DaGoat</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaGoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My obligatory response:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are about 5 posts now all with varying points so I&#039;ll try to tie them all in here.  Some points people are making:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. The Tea Parties are useless because the Iraq protests didn&#039;t work - I disagree, the reason we have a Democratic senate, congress and president is partially because of opposition to the Iraq war.  It&#039;s very likely Obama will raise taxes at some point and not just on the uber-rich.  These protests will give fiscal conservatives a base for further opposition when the time comes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2.  the Tea Parties are unfocused - I agree to an extent.  The only thing you can really criticize Obama right now for is over-spending and his lack of attention to pork and earmarks.  Still the anti-tax and smaller government messages may be useful down the road.  Overall though I think there are too many messages trying to compete and a better focus would be helpful.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3.  The Tea Partiers are inconsistent hypocrites - partially true since they did nothing when the GOP raised the deficit.  Still I am happy they are pushing for fiscal responsibility even if it took them a while.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4.  The Tea Partiers just don&#039;t like Obama - undoubtedly true of some, how much who knows.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;5.  The Tea Parties are being organized by crazy loons like Hannity and Beck - partially true, it seems like some parties are organized locally and others are not.  There is not a consistent set of rules for all the protests.  I personally would not be comfortable participating in anything associated with Beck and Hannity.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bottom Line -  I think peaceful assembly supporting fiscal responsibility is a good thing, warts and all.  I wish the message was more focused, I wish Bush and the GOP hadn&#039;t got us in this mess, and I wish we could weed out the obnoxious talking heads, but you can&#039;t always get everything you wish for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My obligatory response:</p>
<p>There are about 5 posts now all with varying points so I&#39;ll try to tie them all in here.  Some points people are making:</p>
<p>1. The Tea Parties are useless because the Iraq protests didn&#39;t work &#8211; I disagree, the reason we have a Democratic senate, congress and president is partially because of opposition to the Iraq war.  It&#39;s very likely Obama will raise taxes at some point and not just on the uber-rich.  These protests will give fiscal conservatives a base for further opposition when the time comes.</p>
<p>2.  the Tea Parties are unfocused &#8211; I agree to an extent.  The only thing you can really criticize Obama right now for is over-spending and his lack of attention to pork and earmarks.  Still the anti-tax and smaller government messages may be useful down the road.  Overall though I think there are too many messages trying to compete and a better focus would be helpful.</p>
<p>3.  The Tea Partiers are inconsistent hypocrites &#8211; partially true since they did nothing when the GOP raised the deficit.  Still I am happy they are pushing for fiscal responsibility even if it took them a while.</p>
<p>4.  The Tea Partiers just don&#39;t like Obama &#8211; undoubtedly true of some, how much who knows.  </p>
<p>5.  The Tea Parties are being organized by crazy loons like Hannity and Beck &#8211; partially true, it seems like some parties are organized locally and others are not.  There is not a consistent set of rules for all the protests.  I personally would not be comfortable participating in anything associated with Beck and Hannity.</p>
<p>Bottom Line &#8211;  I think peaceful assembly supporting fiscal responsibility is a good thing, warts and all.  I wish the message was more focused, I wish Bush and the GOP hadn&#39;t got us in this mess, and I wish we could weed out the obnoxious talking heads, but you can&#39;t always get everything you wish for.</p>
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