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Michelle Bachmann, once an obscure Republican Representative from the 6th district in Minnesota, has turned into the de facto leader of out-of-power conservatives. Semi-attractive, unabashedly ignorant, and utterly impervious to the forces of rationali…

*Thinks 10 to 1 its Shaun, no make that 100 to 1″*

*Looks at authors name….BINGO!”

I think you are arguing with someone who, if he did not have internet access, would be pushing a shopping cart full of magazine and newspaper clippings, each with highlighted paragraphs and scribbled notes in all the margins, proving the truth of his contentions, and the government plot against him. Personally.

We know you are supremely intelligent, but how about getting down to the level of us poor mortals.

How do we know she is even an American citizen?

She could be from Iran trying to stir up chit. for that matter I could be from Russia or China or N. Korea. Kind makes the internet a cesspool doesnt it??

Your close in your analysis.

Let me point out something that happened historically. I understand that I am supremely intelligent and that compared to the typical Conservatives who posts or comments here you are unable to keep up with me intellectually so I will try to be as simple as Im capable of doing.

Ugg…grunt…huh….opps too simple.

GWB declared that anyone who was not for the war on terror was unpatriotic. After a lil while the GOP realized…..opps bad mistake.

Democrats had this huge light bulb go off over their head. Shazaaammmm………They had an idear.

Lets call ourselves names over and over and over again and claim that its really the publicans doing it. Voilla it worked. I cant remember how many 1000000000 times I heard or read on the internet a lefty proclaiming he was scum, a bum or unpatriotic because he dared to question Bush or the status quo.

So leap forward many moons to my first post………voilla I present to the left the Rights way out of the wilderness. Just start calling themselves names and blaming it on the Democrats and voilla you have the way back to power.

Make sense now. Compadre???

Every day its another kookoo policy float… Now Obama's zombie team is suggesting to bombard the atmosphere with pollution? (todays Brietbart… http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97ECHL…)

What planet is Obama on? I had high hopes for him but he's in a sick corporate world of stealing one day, a party and fashion show the next, selling cars the next, and being ridiculously childish with Korea the next day. I can't even watch anymore.

Sorry, many of us have good reason to fear Obama, especially if you are liberal. He is to the right of even Nixon, but many of you are too young to realize how scary Obama's fiscal policies are. Obama's health care plan was what Nixon had in mind…

I feel pretty confident that these folks represent the vast majority of the uptick in gun sales.

As for the rest, the 'big megaphones', etc…my feeling is that the left is giving these megaphones to people on the right in order to discredit conservatism in the eyes of independent voters. I notice more and more that people on the left and center left are using Rush Limbaugh's favorite technique against the right- choosing to highlight the nutjobs on the opposing side and frame them as the mainstream of the other side's movement.

Glenn Beck may be the exception to this- I think he really does have a following, and it concerns me a little (tiny) bit- but for instance Bachmann is sort of like a Cynthia McKinney of the right- someone elected for God knows what parochial reason but not taken seriously by anyone else around the country. I hardly consider her someone to lead a revolution. As for Chuck Norris, he's got tough guy celebrity persona around which a cottage industry of jokes have been built- again, I don't see him as the general in a Civil War.

I guess the problem many are having in scoffing at the idea of a revolution or revolt or the demise of the USA is they continue to think of the civil war in which there was an orderly withdrawal of states, the calling up of the militia and then orderly battles fought while the rest of the country went on their merry way until close to the end of the war.

Did you watch the demise of the USSR? Don't recall a whole lot of bloodshed over there. But I do see that Russia now stands alone as all its former “STATES” are now their own floundering countries.

Yep you got me AR. Im stocking up on Ammo so I can fight off the 1st marine division. Darn I hope they don't use predators on my heavily fortified house in suburbia.

You say 'No where am I saying I WANT A REBELLION', but you also say There is a rebellion a coming. Its coming to America and I believe that Obama will the the one who precipitates it and Insane. Yes count me as one of those who believes a rebellion is in the works and There is a war coming to America

Sure sounds like you want one, even if you are making sure not to be the one asking for it to happen.

And I say this as someone who often attends Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church, where a deranged right-wing mutant opened fire on the congregation so he could “kill all the liberals.”

I also say this as a Jew; we Jews know better than most how dangerous paranoid conspiracies can be.

I despise conspiracy theorists and believers alike. They are, by and large, intellectually immature and narcissistic fools who believe that their own simplistic explanations account for everything.

But I don't think these folks are really all that threatening as of now. The gun purchases have gone up because of a fear of gun control – not to fire up the next militia.

There could come a time when these inchoate voices cohere into a McVeigh-style terrorist movement. And I trust at that point they will be dealt with.

We have to keep in mind here that part of the frustration on the far right is the popularity of Obama. For 40 years, liberalism has been in retreat. A dirty word. And now conservatism is in retreat, with many conservatives pathetically blaming Bush's fall on being “not conservative enough.” Conservative notions of “liberty” don't resonate anymore with the general public because the “free market” has failed to live up to its promise. The financial services industry could not regulate itself. The American consumer bought into the free market – “You MUST invest in housing and the stock market or you will LOSE money,” cried CNBC and the other pimps of the free market – and now that consumer is terrified and poor.

Government is getting bigger again because people are demanding it. Big government progressivism may yet fail. But conservatism already has.

your second post in this thread was as you say “to the point” and divides the present hate pretty much evenly between the extreme right and extreme left.

But your first post confuses me.

Perhaps I am not reading or interpreting it correctly.

Let me paraphrase it, to get your reaction and clarification:

“Liberals realized that they were not allowed to doubt Bush. Mistrust a man who took us us into an unnecessary, misrepresented war that spent us into the poor house in a really awful hurry. Those stupid liberals. How dared they challenge the president. They are deranged I tell you. Deranged.

Liberals are Idiots. They have no brains. They fully understand that all the evils of this world are their fault. When a liberal loses it that is proof. When a conservative loses it, we all know it was because those Stupid liberals with their stupid ideals drove them to it.

Liberals are beyond stupid. They have no brains. They love gays and we know that every person to ever love another gay is a liberal. Those liberals don't even believe in God. How disgusting……

I apologize to the world and Bush for our sins. I hope you will forgive us. We are scum. Thanks for pointing that out. How dared we challenge the former president. He was after all “The Decider,” “The Chosen One” (by the Supremes), as has been pointed out so often to us.

Additionally read my entire post. No where am I WISHING FOR A REBELLION. I am saying one is on the way unless this country gets it collective act together. They wont. Because our only hope was a democratic party put in charge to fix what ails us and instead of fixing it they just ran off on their own merry way screaming with glee at being able to finish us off.

Trust me my friend. If this country goes broke ala the USSR…you think their wont be revolting in the streets? And whose gonna pay those soldiers to fight us off??

This left right stuff best stop. We have one major problem and people just dont realize how close to going belly up the USA is right now. Thats what Im saying.

No where am I saying I WANT A REBELLION and I have listened to BECK and hes not saying that either. Hes saying what Im saying. If this country does not return to fiscal sanity, pull out of both wars and get our collective act together their is a rebellion coming.

Its simple really. Its in Obama and the democrats hands and they are playing chicken with the American people.