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		<title>By: Dog Obedience Training</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dog Obedience Training</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 06:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KMB - Thanks for the kind words and re-reading of what I actually was saying. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Knowing Hillary from the reports of her temper through the years, I have to image she is kicking ass and taking names (and replacing them!) to reduce these errors. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Again, they may seem like little things to most of us, but in Diplomacy they often take on much bigger meanings. Otherwise, why would the State Department have an Office of the Chief of Protocol reporting directly to the SOS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KMB &#8211; Thanks for the kind words and re-reading of what I actually was saying. </p>
<p>Knowing Hillary from the reports of her temper through the years, I have to image she is kicking ass and taking names (and replacing them!) to reduce these errors. </p>
<p>Again, they may seem like little things to most of us, but in Diplomacy they often take on much bigger meanings. Otherwise, why would the State Department have an Office of the Chief of Protocol reporting directly to the SOS?</p>
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		<title>By: archangel</title>
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		<dc:creator>archangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just my two cents worth as a Mexican Latina and Catholic:  the priest&#039;s reply was a gracious one. Also, as Jazz and I and other journalists know, we did not hear the entire conversation. We do not know if the priest was a &#039;secular priest&#039; or a religious priest. We do not know if he is a &#039;tourist priest,&#039; or a holy keeper of the shrine. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nonetheless, many of us Latinos are not &#039;slapped in the face&#039; at all. We are more interested in teaching people/strangers than in scorning them. We are interested in returning not to the ways of some of those who oppressed us, but another way that follows a better path... We know war doesnt make progress, flailing at people doesnt create. This is just my two cents worth. I&#039;ve written about it, referencing Jazz&#039;s article here, at the top of TMV, just now. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; I often wish those similar perhaps to those who Jazz notes, those who are  enraged at one or ten nations in this world, would go face off with Than Shwe and Mugabe and others, confronting those who murder daily. It seems it might help. I&#039;m not sure, but it seems people who go up face to face with monsters turn their angers to heroisms. I could be wrong. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;dr.e</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just my two cents worth as a Mexican Latina and Catholic:  the priest&#39;s reply was a gracious one. Also, as Jazz and I and other journalists know, we did not hear the entire conversation. We do not know if the priest was a &#39;secular priest&#39; or a religious priest. We do not know if he is a &#39;tourist priest,&#39; or a holy keeper of the shrine. </p>
<p>Nonetheless, many of us Latinos are not &#39;slapped in the face&#39; at all. We are more interested in teaching people/strangers than in scorning them. We are interested in returning not to the ways of some of those who oppressed us, but another way that follows a better path&#8230; We know war doesnt make progress, flailing at people doesnt create. This is just my two cents worth. I&#39;ve written about it, referencing Jazz&#39;s article here, at the top of TMV, just now. </p>
<p> I often wish those similar perhaps to those who Jazz notes, those who are  enraged at one or ten nations in this world, would go face off with Than Shwe and Mugabe and others, confronting those who murder daily. It seems it might help. I&#39;m not sure, but it seems people who go up face to face with monsters turn their angers to heroisms. I could be wrong. </p>
<p>dr.e</p>
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		<title>By: kmb08</title>
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		<dc:creator>kmb08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Austin,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your point is well taken.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW, I criticize Democrats with ease....I&#039;m not a &quot;strong&quot; Democrat....very moderate actually.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suppose my comment was made after reading this article, as well as others, pertaining to the so-called gaffes, so I should have reined my feelings in a little better in response to this article per se.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Touche&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austin,</p>
<p>Your point is well taken.</p>
<p>BTW, I criticize Democrats with ease&#8230;.I&#39;m not a &#8220;strong&#8221; Democrat&#8230;.very moderate actually.</p>
<p>I suppose my comment was made after reading this article, as well as others, pertaining to the so-called gaffes, so I should have reined my feelings in a little better in response to this article per se.  </p>
<p>Touche&#39;</p>
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		<title>By: Our Lady of Guadalupe, A Catholic Latina's Take: Hillary Clinton Vindicated</title>
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		<dc:creator>Our Lady of Guadalupe, A Catholic Latina's Take: Hillary Clinton Vindicated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jazz my coblogger at TMV, wrote a good article called Fauxrage In Mexico - Hillary Hates Catholics! about how some in media have spun a naive question Hillary asked at the Basilica of Our Lady of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: richmx2</title>
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		<dc:creator>richmx2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 02:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Hilary should have been briefed&quot; meme resonates here in Mexico.  It&#039;s not so much that a Protestant spoke out of ignorance, but that the Secretary of State of our NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR and largest trading partner is still of the mindset that the U.S. can preach to the Mexicans without knowing a damn thing about the country, its history or its peoples.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;After 200+ years as next door neighbors, we&#039;re entitled to get a bit testy.  As an author of a Mexican history, I&#039;m personally annoyed that the people in the United States too parochial a mindset to show even a smidgen of interest about a very large country -- and it&#039;s second largest oil supplier I might add -- on it&#039;s own border.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To us, it&#039;s not a gaffe, it&#039;s a slap in the face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Hilary should have been briefed&#8221; meme resonates here in Mexico.  It&#39;s not so much that a Protestant spoke out of ignorance, but that the Secretary of State of our NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR and largest trading partner is still of the mindset that the U.S. can preach to the Mexicans without knowing a damn thing about the country, its history or its peoples.  </p>
<p>After 200+ years as next door neighbors, we&#39;re entitled to get a bit testy.  As an author of a Mexican history, I&#39;m personally annoyed that the people in the United States too parochial a mindset to show even a smidgen of interest about a very large country &#8212; and it&#39;s second largest oil supplier I might add &#8212; on it&#39;s own border.  </p>
<p>To us, it&#39;s not a gaffe, it&#39;s a slap in the face.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KMB - if you had bothered to read what I actually wrote, then you would have noted that I sepcifically said those were not personal shortcoming of Hillary, but rather shortcomings of the support staff.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess it is simpler for you to just go off half-cocked and try to turn everything into an anti-Bush rant than accept any criticism of anything Democratic, even as in this case when it was deserved, and decidedly low-key.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KMB &#8211; if you had bothered to read what I actually wrote, then you would have noted that I sepcifically said those were not personal shortcoming of Hillary, but rather shortcomings of the support staff.</p>
<p>I guess it is simpler for you to just go off half-cocked and try to turn everything into an anti-Bush rant than accept any criticism of anything Democratic, even as in this case when it was deserved, and decidedly low-key.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It humorous that all of the progressives who said that they would not be the same mistakes as the Bush apologist lied.  The left has taken owner of the Obama Administration and will attack anyone who casts doubt on it.  Instead of demanding real performance from Pelosi and Reid in Congress, instead o apologizing for the Obama Administration, maybe people should start question an organization that cannot find 23 people who did not cheat on their taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It humorous that all of the progressives who said that they would not be the same mistakes as the Bush apologist lied.  The left has taken owner of the Obama Administration and will attack anyone who casts doubt on it.  Instead of demanding real performance from Pelosi and Reid in Congress, instead o apologizing for the Obama Administration, maybe people should start question an organization that cannot find 23 people who did not cheat on their taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: OH_DavidD</title>
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		<dc:creator>OH_DavidD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point, Jazz, is not whether right-wing bloggers criticize Obama but whether the mainstream media will criticize Obama or, instead, will choose to look the other way when they would not have looked the other way had Condi Rice done the same thing. BTW, one cannot imagine someone as intelligent as Condi Rice having such a lack of cultural intelligence.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point, Jazz, is not whether right-wing bloggers criticize Obama but whether the mainstream media will criticize Obama or, instead, will choose to look the other way when they would not have looked the other way had Condi Rice done the same thing. BTW, one cannot imagine someone as intelligent as Condi Rice having such a lack of cultural intelligence.</p>
<p>D.</p>
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		<title>By: forkedtongue</title>
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		<dc:creator>forkedtongue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have actually visited the Basilica of Our Lady of Guadalupe, and you know, it&#039;s amazing--that image that was magically imprinted on the cloak?  It really looks for all the world like a normal painting that employed pigments typical of its age, applied by brush!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have actually visited the Basilica of Our Lady of Guadalupe, and you know, it&#39;s amazing&#8211;that image that was magically imprinted on the cloak?  It really looks for all the world like a normal painting that employed pigments typical of its age, applied by brush!</p>
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		<title>By: kmb08</title>
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		<dc:creator>kmb08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find amazing is SOS Hillary Clinton has traveled over 60,000 miles in a very short time, which is far more than any other SOS in my lifetime, and only a few gaffes can be found!!  She really is remarkable!!!   She mispronounced a couple names, OH MY!...she spoke about multi-democracies...OH MY!....There was this &quot;reset&quot; funny...OH MY!...and now this.  WOW...is that all the critics have?!?!   Bush couldn&#039;t pronounce &quot;nuclear&quot; the entire eight years he was in office!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hillary is a very studious one...she is known for her insatiable appetite for knowledge, and she rarely disappoints.  I find it amusing when Bush Admin. groupies quip, &quot;can you imagine if Bush had done this&quot;, because God Help us, there are legions of books on nothing more than &quot;bushisms&quot;.  Bush and his Admin. didn&#039;t have the chance to be criticized for mispronouncing names because we didn&#039;t intend on speaking with those leaders in the first place...why worry about names! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any Hillary gaffe will be amplified, afterall, it&#039;s Hillary!!  I&#039;m sure she&#039;s accustomed to being under a more magnified scope.  It comes with the territory of being Hillary.  I&#039;m a huge supporter of hers, and am more and more impressed as time goes by......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find amazing is SOS Hillary Clinton has traveled over 60,000 miles in a very short time, which is far more than any other SOS in my lifetime, and only a few gaffes can be found!!  She really is remarkable!!!   She mispronounced a couple names, OH MY!&#8230;she spoke about multi-democracies&#8230;OH MY!&#8230;.There was this &#8220;reset&#8221; funny&#8230;OH MY!&#8230;and now this.  WOW&#8230;is that all the critics have?!?!   Bush couldn&#39;t pronounce &#8220;nuclear&#8221; the entire eight years he was in office!!!</p>
<p>Hillary is a very studious one&#8230;she is known for her insatiable appetite for knowledge, and she rarely disappoints.  I find it amusing when Bush Admin. groupies quip, &#8220;can you imagine if Bush had done this&#8221;, because God Help us, there are legions of books on nothing more than &#8220;bushisms&#8221;.  Bush and his Admin. didn&#39;t have the chance to be criticized for mispronouncing names because we didn&#39;t intend on speaking with those leaders in the first place&#8230;why worry about names! </p>
<p>Any Hillary gaffe will be amplified, afterall, it&#39;s Hillary!!  I&#39;m sure she&#39;s accustomed to being under a more magnified scope.  It comes with the territory of being Hillary.  I&#39;m a huge supporter of hers, and am more and more impressed as time goes by&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gadfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you have dismissed it as &quot;fauxrage&quot; if Bush had made the exact same clunker comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you have dismissed it as &#8220;fauxrage&#8221; if Bush had made the exact same clunker comments?</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think taking the high road is important, but to me that means not engaging in the more ridiculous or less substantive criticisms. For instance, I think taking the high road includes not criticizing Obama for socializing in the midst of an economic crisis (I noticed OTB- I think it was James Joyner- had a blog post defending Obama&#039;s outings.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course we see from cynicalone&#039;s comment that some on the left STILL won&#039;t stop using those kinds of criticisms.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But when someone in the administration actually screws up, as long as the criticism isn&#039;t blown out of proportion- I don&#039;t see anything wrong with criticizing it. That&#039;s not taking the low road, it&#039;s just a legitimate means of holding people accountable. If someone used this incident to claim overall incompetence, they&#039;d be exaggerating wildly, but that&#039;s different from saying that there have been a few incidents indicating a need for staff to step up a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think taking the high road is important, but to me that means not engaging in the more ridiculous or less substantive criticisms. For instance, I think taking the high road includes not criticizing Obama for socializing in the midst of an economic crisis (I noticed OTB- I think it was James Joyner- had a blog post defending Obama&#39;s outings.)</p>
<p>Of course we see from cynicalone&#39;s comment that some on the left STILL won&#39;t stop using those kinds of criticisms.</p>
<p>But when someone in the administration actually screws up, as long as the criticism isn&#39;t blown out of proportion- I don&#39;t see anything wrong with criticizing it. That&#39;s not taking the low road, it&#39;s just a legitimate means of holding people accountable. If someone used this incident to claim overall incompetence, they&#39;d be exaggerating wildly, but that&#39;s different from saying that there have been a few incidents indicating a need for staff to step up a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: DaGoat</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaGoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Clinton&#039;s comment &quot;You have a marvelous virgin!&quot; was more questionable than asking who painted the image.  She&#039;s never been much of a speaker though.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jazz raises an interesting question, namely after years of criticizing the left for taking the low road shouldn&#039;t the right try to take the high road themselves?  The answer should be yes, although human nature being what it is it will be tough to do.  I think many would see it as taking a debating tactic away from their side while the other side retains it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All in all though this Clinton faux pas is no big deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Clinton&#39;s comment &#8220;You have a marvelous virgin!&#8221; was more questionable than asking who painted the image.  She&#39;s never been much of a speaker though.</p>
<p>Jazz raises an interesting question, namely after years of criticizing the left for taking the low road shouldn&#39;t the right try to take the high road themselves?  The answer should be yes, although human nature being what it is it will be tough to do.  I think many would see it as taking a debating tactic away from their side while the other side retains it.</p>
<p>All in all though this Clinton faux pas is no big deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Jules Crittenden &#187; In The Time Of Gaffes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jules Crittenden &#187; In The Time Of Gaffes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cynicalone</title>
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		<dc:creator>cynicalone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Jazz, who cares?&lt;br&gt;I would also like to know why I should be concerned that Eric Cantor skipped Obama&#039;s press conference to go to a Britney Spears concert.&lt;br&gt;I have seen explanations as to why I should care, for instance:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When Katrina happened- Bush was on Vacation ( although he found time to have Cake With McCain) and Condi Rice was watching Spamalot....AND now we learn that Cantor was at the Circus ? Britneys Lusty Teen Circus and no it was not a family outing where he took his daughter...he went he claims doing GOP Business ? We are in the Middle of a HUGE Economic Crisis and he was at the titilating Britney Performance ??? He skipped Obama &#039;s 2nd Presser to focus on What ? on Brittany&#039;s Dancing ? Virigina you deserve better representation...you really do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hurricane Katrina .... Press Conference.  Am I missing something here?&lt;br&gt;Perhaps you could ask Mr. Gandelman why he thought this &quot;story&quot; needed to be featured on his blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Jazz, who cares?<br />I would also like to know why I should be concerned that Eric Cantor skipped Obama&#39;s press conference to go to a Britney Spears concert.<br />I have seen explanations as to why I should care, for instance:</p>
<p>When Katrina happened- Bush was on Vacation ( although he found time to have Cake With McCain) and Condi Rice was watching Spamalot&#8230;.AND now we learn that Cantor was at the Circus ? Britneys Lusty Teen Circus and no it was not a family outing where he took his daughter&#8230;he went he claims doing GOP Business ? We are in the Middle of a HUGE Economic Crisis and he was at the titilating Britney Performance ??? He skipped Obama &#39;s 2nd Presser to focus on What ? on Brittany&#39;s Dancing ? Virigina you deserve better representation&#8230;you really do.</p>
<p>Hurricane Katrina &#8230;. Press Conference.  Am I missing something here?<br />Perhaps you could ask Mr. Gandelman why he thought this &#8220;story&#8221; needed to be featured on his blog.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;if she had looked at Mecca and asked, &#039;Wow, interesting architecture. What is this used for?&#039;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;LOL, or &#039;Wow, you get a lot of tourists here, don&#039;t you?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>if she had looked at Mecca and asked, &#39;Wow, interesting architecture. What is this used for?&#39;</i></p>
<p>LOL, or &#39;Wow, you get a lot of tourists here, don&#39;t you?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave_Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave_Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised, Jazz.  I&#039;ve known what you quoted above about the Virgin of Guadalupe since I was a child but perhaps I&#039;m the oddball.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW, the picture is more than local lore.  It&#039;s a popular symbol used all across Mexico and by the Mexican diaspora here in the U. S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m surprised, Jazz.  I&#39;ve known what you quoted above about the Virgin of Guadalupe since I was a child but perhaps I&#39;m the oddball.</p>
<p>BTW, the picture is more than local lore.  It&#39;s a popular symbol used all across Mexico and by the Mexican diaspora here in the U. S.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazz and CS - it is not a faux pas not knowing some minor piece of local history. Sometimes that can be turned into a good experience, showing interest in new and relevant facts. It is a faux pas when you are talking about a world-famous icon of extreme local and international significance to a major religion, and the most important religion of Mexico, in this case.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Again, it is the pattern of not having key facts, language phrases, etc., that is troublesome. I do not expect perfection from the State Department, but I do expect basic competency on these types of issues.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And it was only an &#039;obvious&#039; question if you were blissfully ignorant on what you were looking at. Would you consider it an obvious question if she had looked at Mecca and asked, &#039;Wow, interesting architecture. What is this used for?&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazz and CS &#8211; it is not a faux pas not knowing some minor piece of local history. Sometimes that can be turned into a good experience, showing interest in new and relevant facts. It is a faux pas when you are talking about a world-famous icon of extreme local and international significance to a major religion, and the most important religion of Mexico, in this case.</p>
<p>Again, it is the pattern of not having key facts, language phrases, etc., that is troublesome. I do not expect perfection from the State Department, but I do expect basic competency on these types of issues.</p>
<p>And it was only an &#39;obvious&#39; question if you were blissfully ignorant on what you were looking at. Would you consider it an obvious question if she had looked at Mecca and asked, &#39;Wow, interesting architecture. What is this used for?&#39;</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Austin is right that the staff should have briefed her better on the icon. It&#039;s a diplomatic faux pas to not know things that the locals know- customs, history, etc. That said, you&#039;re right, Jazz, that it&#039;s impossible to know everything and slip ups will happen. It&#039;s wrong to attach any great significance to one data point of error. There has, though, been a pattern of errors over a short period of time which suggest that State and WH staff need to get up to speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austin is right that the staff should have briefed her better on the icon. It&#39;s a diplomatic faux pas to not know things that the locals know- customs, history, etc. That said, you&#39;re right, Jazz, that it&#39;s impossible to know everything and slip ups will happen. It&#39;s wrong to attach any great significance to one data point of error. There has, though, been a pattern of errors over a short period of time which suggest that State and WH staff need to get up to speed.</p>
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