Comments on: Republicans Missed Opportunity with Obama

By: Don Quijote

Don Quijote — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:00:09 +0000

What will happen to government spending in the coming one party state.

Don't worry your pretty little head, the Republican Party will make a come-back, if not right away, in a couple of decades.

Once enough Hispanics, African-Americans & Asians become members of the upper-middle-class and start intermarrying with the white upper-middle-class, they will start resenting having to pay taxes to support those shiftless lazy bastards in the underclass, and the working class, and if the parents who made the leap from working class to upper-middle-class don't resent the taxes they have to pay, you can pretty much depend on their children who where born with a silver spoon in their mouth to.

And once you have enough ethnic diversity in the upper-middle-class you can always convince the idiots in the working class that but for a little hard work and a little luck, they too could be members of the upper-middle-class.

And there is your new republican party, easy as Apple Pie. You can always depend on greed and resentment to recreate the Party of Shrub and Reagan.

By: superdestroyer

superdestroyer — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:16:08 +0000

Instead of discussing the irrelevant Repubican Party, the real disucssion is how will the U.S. funciton as a one party state. What will happen to government spending in the coming one party state. Will Hispanics and blacks benefit from the coming one party state or will the elite white leadership stop sucking up to them when they are no longer needed to beat the Republicans.

By: elrod

elrod — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:09:17 +0000

CStanley,
Interesting that you cite Republican small-government success stories only in times when Democrats either controlled Congress (under Reagan) or the White House (under Clinton). Yet, when Republicans controlled BOTH ends of Pennsylvania Avenue, they did what? Surely the Democrats didn't make the Republicans spend between 2001 and 2006 (excepting a brief year and a half when Dems controlled the Senate in 2002). The Democrats didn't make the GOP pass the Medicare Prescription Drug bill, which adds trillions in unfunded liabilities.

If the Republicans couldn't cut spending when they had TOTAL control, when can they ever be expected to cut spending? Only when they are opposing a Democrat? Sounds like politics, not principle.

By: NordicAngst

NordicAngst — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:19:59 +0000

“poor Mexican voters are automatic Democratic party voters”

for someone with a Lucha mask Super Destroyer doesn't seem to know much about Latinos.

By: GeorgeSorwell

GeorgeSorwell — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:42:11 +0000

CStanley–

Could you be more specific about what Reagan did to reduce the size and scope of the federal government? What things got devolved to the states?

Thanks.

By: CStanley

CStanley — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:29:16 +0000

Ryan, I agree that the GOP hasn't delivered well in the last 8 years, but Reagan really did accomplish a good bit to reduce the size and scope of the federal government (devolving certain things back to the states, which is very much of an improvement and we could do with a lot more of that) but he just didn't hold the line on spending. And Gingrich's Congress didn't fulfill their Contract with America on all counts, but they did a pretty fair job keeping Clinton to a more moderate agenda and they helped accomplish badly needed welfare reform.

So while there's definitely a lot of room for criticism of the more recent GOP majority, it's not as bad as you're making it out to be either.

And aside from that, what will undoubtedly happen now is that some of the current group who really have been fiscally conservative (Pence, Cantor, Flake, Ryan, etc) will inherit the mantle along with some of the governors, so they'll be able to distance themselves from the Frists, Boehners, and Hasterts.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:18:24 +0000

I'm not terribly sure you can attribute '94 to 'corruption'. It takes a lot to vote for somebody you don't agree with just because they haven't had the opportunity to abuse the position yet. And I'm not sure which campaigns you were watching but I got the impression that the Democrats were running on "See, you put the Republicans in charge and they broke it."

That said, the Republicans have been more than happy to talk about 'fiscal conservatism' and 'small government' for the past three decades and when given the ability to implement their stated agenda, choke. Then they lose and go back to whining about the evils of big government. It's getting annoying.

By: CStanley

CStanley — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:40:57 +0000

Well, Ryan, the Democrats held a majority in Congress for a very long time and then were turned out in '94, largely on corruption. It did take a while for people to forget that, but for some reason voters over the last two cycles have assumed that 'this time they really meant it' when they promised 'the most ethical Congress ever.”

Short memories, short attention spans, and an opposing party which screws up have a way of wiping the slate clean.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:13:26 +0000

That leaves the GOP in a bit of a bind, now doesn't it… next time they want to run on small government / fiscal conservatism their slogan will have to be “No, really, this time we mean it. Promise.”

By: superdestroyer

superdestroyer — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:33:36 +0000

Obama did not reach across the aisle. Obama played dog whistle politics. when in front of a group of blacks or Hispanics, he promised to tax the rich (read whites) and given the money to them. When in front of upper class whites, he said that he would establish new government mechanism to given them power over others (environmental, energy, transportation, health regulations).

Maybe someone can explain who open borders and unlimited immigration is going to help any conservative in the U.S. After having a Republican President who was too stupid to understand that poor mexican voters are automatic Democratic party voters, does anyone really think that President obama refusal to enforce the borders to the U.S. is going to help Repubicans.

The Republicans are dead to history and it was their own doing. first, the leadership of the Repubican Party insisted on open borders and unlimited immigration in the stupid belief that poor Mexican would eventually become Republicans. Second, after running as a party of fiscal conservatives, they spent at a faster rate than Democrats. third, after running on the small party platform, they could not wait to grow the government.

The Republican leadership is too stupid and too incompetent to understand that if people want high spending, big government, the people will vote for Democrats.

By: Leonidas

Leonidas — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:25:05 +0000

“….of all the Democratic potentials Obama offered an administration that was likely to be the most hospitable to conservatives and Republicans as they prepared for their time in the wilderness to figure out just where they went wrong and what to do about it.”

Please, lay down the crackpipe.