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	<title>Comments on: Jon Stewart Rips Obama on Troop Insurance</title>
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		<title>By: retired_disabled_veteran</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/27210/jon-stewart-rips-obama-on-troop-insurance/comment-page-1/#comment-183179</link>
		<dc:creator>retired_disabled_veteran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 01:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, what military service member or veteran would be able to be accepted for private health insurance?  Many life insurance policies have a &quot;military service member&quot; clause, which prevents payment of life insurance if the insured dies in an act of war.  (read - terrorist attacks.  check YOUR life insurance).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Have you ever heard of workman&#039;s compensation?  Do non-federal employees pay a premium to have that?  What is the difference between workman&#039;s comp for a union factory worker or a Soldier - aside from the fact that there is no Soldier&#039;s union?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, what military service member or veteran would be able to be accepted for private health insurance?  Many life insurance policies have a &#8220;military service member&#8221; clause, which prevents payment of life insurance if the insured dies in an act of war.  (read &#8211; terrorist attacks.  check YOUR life insurance).  </p>
<p>Have you ever heard of workman&#39;s compensation?  Do non-federal employees pay a premium to have that?  What is the difference between workman&#39;s comp for a union factory worker or a Soldier &#8211; aside from the fact that there is no Soldier&#39;s union?</p>
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		<title>By: preshuzdolphin</title>
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		<dc:creator>preshuzdolphin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that this point is basically moot since Obama decided to pull the proposal, but the plan was nothing of what the TRICARE plan is for retirees.  What the plan proposed as what was described to the American Legion was that for any combat related injury, the veteran would have to use a private insurance plan that was not government controlled to cover combat related medical expenses at the VA . Therefore, there would be a copay and a cap on benefits for the veteran and his or her family. This would have put the burden on the soldier and also could have caused companies not to higher a prior soldier as they would have to provide a greater private insurance plan to cover his or her combat related injuries instead of now where their injuries are covered.   so really, Jon Stewart was right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that this point is basically moot since Obama decided to pull the proposal, but the plan was nothing of what the TRICARE plan is for retirees.  What the plan proposed as what was described to the American Legion was that for any combat related injury, the veteran would have to use a private insurance plan that was not government controlled to cover combat related medical expenses at the VA . Therefore, there would be a copay and a cap on benefits for the veteran and his or her family. This would have put the burden on the soldier and also could have caused companies not to higher a prior soldier as they would have to provide a greater private insurance plan to cover his or her combat related injuries instead of now where their injuries are covered.   so really, Jon Stewart was right.</p>
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		<title>By: D. E.Rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>D. E.Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To get back to the original topic of  Jazz&#039; post:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(from &quot;Defense Potpouri #1&quot;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;VETERANS&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There had been reports that President Obama was considering billing veterans’ private insurance companies for the treatment at VA hospitals of combat-related injuries .&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;According to the Washington Post:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The proposal would have authorized the Department of Veterans Affairs to charge private companies for treating injuries and other medical conditions, such as post-traumatic stress disorder, that are related to military service. The measure was intended to save VA about $530 million a year.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There has been a huge public outcry against such proposals.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yesterday, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said that the president has “instructed that its consideration be dropped.”&lt;br&gt;“In considering the third-party billing issue, the administration was seeking to maximize the resources available for veterans,” Gibbs said. “However, the president listened to concerns raised by the [organization leaders] that this might, under certain circumstances, affect veterans and their families’ ability to access health care.” &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Under the “bigger picture,” Obama has proposed, in his fiscal year 2010 budget, a 15 percent increase to VA’s budget, from $97.7 billion this fiscal year to $112.8 billion for the fiscal year beginning Oct. 1, 2009 on top of the $1.4 billion already set aside for VA projects in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, that’s good news for veterans.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;House Veterans Affairs Committee Chairman Bob Filner said this about the budget recommendations:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“I applaud President Obama’s budget request for the Department of Veterans Affairs. After sixteen years on the Veterans’ Affairs Committee, I am very encouraged that this outline is consistent with recommendations made by the veterans’ groups who co-author the Independent Budget. This has never happened in the 23-year history of the IB!”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To get back to the original topic of  Jazz&#39; post:</p>
<p>(from &#8220;Defense Potpouri #1&#8243;)</p>
<p>VETERANS</p>
<p>There had been reports that President Obama was considering billing veterans’ private insurance companies for the treatment at VA hospitals of combat-related injuries .</p>
<p>According to the Washington Post:</p>
<p>The proposal would have authorized the Department of Veterans Affairs to charge private companies for treating injuries and other medical conditions, such as post-traumatic stress disorder, that are related to military service. The measure was intended to save VA about $530 million a year.</p>
<p>There has been a huge public outcry against such proposals.</p>
<p>Yesterday, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said that the president has “instructed that its consideration be dropped.”<br />“In considering the third-party billing issue, the administration was seeking to maximize the resources available for veterans,” Gibbs said. “However, the president listened to concerns raised by the [organization leaders] that this might, under certain circumstances, affect veterans and their families’ ability to access health care.” </p>
<p>Under the “bigger picture,” Obama has proposed, in his fiscal year 2010 budget, a 15 percent increase to VA’s budget, from $97.7 billion this fiscal year to $112.8 billion for the fiscal year beginning Oct. 1, 2009 on top of the $1.4 billion already set aside for VA projects in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.</p>
<p>Now, that’s good news for veterans.</p>
<p>House Veterans Affairs Committee Chairman Bob Filner said this about the budget recommendations:</p>
<p>“I applaud President Obama’s budget request for the Department of Veterans Affairs. After sixteen years on the Veterans’ Affairs Committee, I am very encouraged that this outline is consistent with recommendations made by the veterans’ groups who co-author the Independent Budget. This has never happened in the 23-year history of the IB!”</p>
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		<title>By: Don Quijote</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/27210/jon-stewart-rips-obama-on-troop-insurance/comment-page-1/#comment-177017</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Quijote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It was a failure of intelligence by both administrations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bullshit...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It wasn&#039;t a failure of intelligence, with the Clinton Administration it was pure cowardice, the &quot;let&#039;s throw a bone to these right winger so they&#039;ll just shut the f**k up and leave us alone&quot; and with the Bush Administration it was pure &quot;manufacturing of intelligence&quot;, they just wanted to go to war. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2004_cr/s012804b.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Congressional Record: January 28, 2004 (Senate)&lt;br&gt;Page S311-S312&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;  I, along with nearly every Senator in this Chamber, in that secure &lt;br&gt;room of this Capitol complex, was not only told there were weapons of &lt;br&gt;mass destruction--specifically chemical and biological--but I was &lt;br&gt;looked at straight in the face and told that Saddam Hussein had the &lt;br&gt;means of delivering those biological and chemical weapons of mass &lt;br&gt;destruction by unmanned drones, called UAVs, unmanned aerial vehicles. &lt;br&gt;Further, I was looked at straight in the face and told that UAVs could &lt;br&gt;be launched from ships off the Atlantic coast to attack eastern &lt;br&gt;seaboard cities of the United States.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ROTFLMAO...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It was a failure of intelligence by both administrations.</p></blockquote>
<p>Bullshit&#8230;</p>
<p>It wasn&#39;t a failure of intelligence, with the Clinton Administration it was pure cowardice, the &#8220;let&#39;s throw a bone to these right winger so they&#39;ll just shut the f**k up and leave us alone&#8221; and with the Bush Administration it was pure &#8220;manufacturing of intelligence&#8221;, they just wanted to go to war. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2004_cr/s012804b.html" rel="nofollow">Congressional Record: January 28, 2004 (Senate)<br />Page S311-S312</a></p>
<p><b><br />  I, along with nearly every Senator in this Chamber, in that secure <br />room of this Capitol complex, was not only told there were weapons of <br />mass destruction&#8211;specifically chemical and biological&#8211;but I was <br />looked at straight in the face and told that Saddam Hussein had the <br />means of delivering those biological and chemical weapons of mass <br />destruction by unmanned drones, called UAVs, unmanned aerial vehicles. <br />Further, I was looked at straight in the face and told that UAVs could <br />be launched from ships off the Atlantic coast to attack eastern <br />seaboard cities of the United States.<br /></b></p>
<p>ROTFLMAO&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Merritt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Merritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me and Christine don&#039;t often agree, but here I agree wholeheartedly.  It was a failure of intelligence by both administrations.  I suppose where we might disagree is how that intelligence was handled, though I don&#039;t know her opinion on that (Google Downing Street Memo).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;DQ, I now await your characterization of me as a right-wing neocon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me and Christine don&#39;t often agree, but here I agree wholeheartedly.  It was a failure of intelligence by both administrations.  I suppose where we might disagree is how that intelligence was handled, though I don&#39;t know her opinion on that (Google Downing Street Memo).</p>
<p>DQ, I now await your characterization of me as a right-wing neocon.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK,  at least your putting the responsibility where it would belong, even though I disagree with you. Those Democrats weren&#039;t just listening to what was coming out of the Bush administration, it was what had been coming out of the intelligence community for more than a decade, and what had come out of the Clinton administration as well. If the decision was wrong, it was because the decision was only as good as the quality of the evidence gathered by CIA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK,  at least your putting the responsibility where it would belong, even though I disagree with you. Those Democrats weren&#39;t just listening to what was coming out of the Bush administration, it was what had been coming out of the intelligence community for more than a decade, and what had come out of the Clinton administration as well. If the decision was wrong, it was because the decision was only as good as the quality of the evidence gathered by CIA.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Quijote</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/27210/jon-stewart-rips-obama-on-troop-insurance/comment-page-1/#comment-176986</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Quijote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Even if you for some reason think this is what happened (that they were influenced by the conservative opinionators) then why wouldn&#039;t you hold them responsible for such idiocy? Don&#039;t you elect people from your party to think for themselves, and don&#039;t you want to hold them responsible if they&#039;re afraid to speak their own mind?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As far as I am concerned, any Democrat who voted for the Iraq war should be out of office. If they believed the bull that was coming of the Bush administration, they are to stupid to be elected officials, and if they didn&#039;t believe it then they are too cowardly to hold elected office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Even if you for some reason think this is what happened (that they were influenced by the conservative opinionators) then why wouldn&#39;t you hold them responsible for such idiocy? Don&#39;t you elect people from your party to think for themselves, and don&#39;t you want to hold them responsible if they&#39;re afraid to speak their own mind?</p></blockquote>
<p>As far as I am concerned, any Democrat who voted for the Iraq war should be out of office. If they believed the bull that was coming of the Bush administration, they are to stupid to be elected officials, and if they didn&#39;t believe it then they are too cowardly to hold elected office.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think anyone is arguing that Malkin isn&#039;t influential on the right, DQ but th point is that the party apparatus isn&#039;t the same thing as the punditocracy/opinionators even if one is influenced by the other. I&#039;m sure that a lot of GOP politicians do read Malkin and follow what her fans are thinking- but it still remains that she has zero power to write the party platform, decide which candidates are run, who gets funded, etc. Which is why I was pointing out that her preferred candidate wasn&#039;t nominated in &#039;08, and in addition to that, she&#039;s been very outspoken against the immigration bill that Bush/McCain et al constructed several years ago, as well as other &#039;moderate&#039; policies- but people who are part of the GOP apparatus didn&#039;t cave in to her whims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t think anyone is arguing that Malkin isn&#39;t influential on the right, DQ but th point is that the party apparatus isn&#39;t the same thing as the punditocracy/opinionators even if one is influenced by the other. I&#39;m sure that a lot of GOP politicians do read Malkin and follow what her fans are thinking- but it still remains that she has zero power to write the party platform, decide which candidates are run, who gets funded, etc. Which is why I was pointing out that her preferred candidate wasn&#39;t nominated in &#39;08, and in addition to that, she&#39;s been very outspoken against the immigration bill that Bush/McCain et al constructed several years ago, as well as other &#39;moderate&#39; policies- but people who are part of the GOP apparatus didn&#39;t cave in to her whims.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Quijote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Quijote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;She certainly isn&#039;t part of the Republoan apparatus, &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Which is undoubtedly why her  columns can be found on &lt;a href=&quot;http://townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Townhall.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>She certainly isn&#39;t part of the Republoan apparatus, </p></blockquote>
<p>Which is undoubtedly why her  columns can be found on <a href="http://townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin" rel="nofollow">Townhall.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I can&#039;t understand is how you can claim that moderates listen to Michelle Malkin, when she was practically apoplectic about John McCain being nominated. They certainly didn&#039;t agree to nominate a more conservative Republican as she had wanted (&#039;ditto&#039; for Rush- he was unhappy with the McCain pick as well.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And on top of that, why in the world would moderate DEMOCRATS listen to right wing pundits? You seem to be saying that everyone who supported the Iraq War did so because they were afraid of going against the right wing media, but how does that make any sense at all for the Democrats who voted to authorize use of force, and didn&#039;t speak out about any reservations until after it wasn&#039;t going well?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even if you for some reason think this is what happened (that they were influenced by the conservative opinionators) then why wouldn&#039;t you hold them responsible for such idiocy? Don&#039;t you elect people from your party to think for themselves, and don&#039;t you want to hold them responsible if they&#039;re afraid to speak their own mind?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I can&#39;t understand is how you can claim that moderates listen to Michelle Malkin, when she was practically apoplectic about John McCain being nominated. They certainly didn&#39;t agree to nominate a more conservative Republican as she had wanted (&#39;ditto&#39; for Rush- he was unhappy with the McCain pick as well.)</p>
<p>And on top of that, why in the world would moderate DEMOCRATS listen to right wing pundits? You seem to be saying that everyone who supported the Iraq War did so because they were afraid of going against the right wing media, but how does that make any sense at all for the Democrats who voted to authorize use of force, and didn&#39;t speak out about any reservations until after it wasn&#39;t going well?</p>
<p>Even if you for some reason think this is what happened (that they were influenced by the conservative opinionators) then why wouldn&#39;t you hold them responsible for such idiocy? Don&#39;t you elect people from your party to think for themselves, and don&#39;t you want to hold them responsible if they&#39;re afraid to speak their own mind?</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She certainly isn&#039;t part of the Republoan apparatus, any more than Olbermann is part of the Democratic apparatus.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You know, you made a stupid, overly broad smear statement, and now are trying desperately to show you did not. I certainly have said things here at times that I realized were over the top, and have copped to it. You, I guess, are just too bat-shit crazy and stubborn to admit you made a dumb statement.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is tedious, and no longer worth pursuing. Go on and think whatever psychotic conspiracy theories you need to you can feel better about your pathetic little existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She certainly isn&#39;t part of the Republoan apparatus, any more than Olbermann is part of the Democratic apparatus.</p>
<p>You know, you made a stupid, overly broad smear statement, and now are trying desperately to show you did not. I certainly have said things here at times that I realized were over the top, and have copped to it. You, I guess, are just too bat-shit crazy and stubborn to admit you made a dumb statement.</p>
<p>This is tedious, and no longer worth pursuing. Go on and think whatever psychotic conspiracy theories you need to you can feel better about your pathetic little existence.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Quijote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Quijote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Unhinged-Exposing-Liberals-Gone-Wild/dp/0895260301/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1237491407&amp;sr=8-2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Malkin&lt;/a&gt; isn&#039;t a member of the right wing of the Republican Party, then there is no such thing as a right wing in the republican Party</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if  <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Unhinged-Exposing-Liberals-Gone-Wild/dp/0895260301/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1237491407&#038;sr=8-2" rel="nofollow">Malkin</a> isn&#39;t a member of the right wing of the Republican Party, then there is no such thing as a right wing in the republican Party</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? I misrepresented your own words?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are the one that said, and I quote, &quot;Malkin and company come up with the stupidest ideas imaginable, wrap them up in the ugliest language possible and throw them out to the mob, the moderates then come along, clean up the language, wrap the ideas up in some nice wholesome language and sell them to the public, which is how we ended up in Iraq, how we ended up in the greatest recession since the 1930&#039;s, how we ended up bailing out to the tune of a few hundred billions dollars, how we ended up in hock to the Chinese and how we are going to spend a few more billions in Afghanistan with nothing to show for it.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, unless you are now saying that I posted as you, you are flat out lying. Which does not surprise me in the least, frankly. You didn&#039;t say &#039;the right wing of the Republican party&#039;; you said &quot;Malkin and company&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? I misrepresented your own words?</p>
<p>You are the one that said, and I quote, &#8220;Malkin and company come up with the stupidest ideas imaginable, wrap them up in the ugliest language possible and throw them out to the mob, the moderates then come along, clean up the language, wrap the ideas up in some nice wholesome language and sell them to the public, which is how we ended up in Iraq, how we ended up in the greatest recession since the 1930&#39;s, how we ended up bailing out to the tune of a few hundred billions dollars, how we ended up in hock to the Chinese and how we are going to spend a few more billions in Afghanistan with nothing to show for it.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, unless you are now saying that I posted as you, you are flat out lying. Which does not surprise me in the least, frankly. You didn&#39;t say &#39;the right wing of the Republican party&#39;; you said &#8220;Malkin and company&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Quijote</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/27210/jon-stewart-rips-obama-on-troop-insurance/comment-page-1/#comment-176965</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Quijote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank You for making my point!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;YOU are the one claiming that the &#039;media and pundits&#039; drove national policy, that they set the agenda, and that the Bush Administration was simply following their orders.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s not quite what I am claiming.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;What I am claiming is that the right wing of the Republican party  drove National policy, and that the so called moderates went along with the program with nary a peep,  you can always rely on a moderate to parrot Republican views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You for making my point!</p>
<blockquote><p>YOU are the one claiming that the &#39;media and pundits&#39; drove national policy, that they set the agenda, and that the Bush Administration was simply following their orders.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#39;s not quite what I am claiming.</p>
<p>What I am claiming is that the right wing of the Republican party  drove National policy, and that the so called moderates went along with the program with nary a peep,  you can always rely on a moderate to parrot Republican views.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I need to do no such thing. YOU are the one claiming that the &#039;media and pundits&#039; drove national policy, that they set the agenda, and that the Bush Administration was simply following their orders.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is incumbent on the paranoid schizophrenic, i.e., you, to try and prove the validity their nonsensical ramblings (btw - the normal way for those in your state to try and accomplish that is to have a shopping cart full of random magazine and newspaper clippings. I do realize that is difficult to display on the internet, though). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is also not the job of the sane to try and cure people with your malady - that is for professionals who can prescribe anti-psychotic drugs to treat your chemical imbalances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need to do no such thing. YOU are the one claiming that the &#39;media and pundits&#39; drove national policy, that they set the agenda, and that the Bush Administration was simply following their orders.</p>
<p>It is incumbent on the paranoid schizophrenic, i.e., you, to try and prove the validity their nonsensical ramblings (btw &#8211; the normal way for those in your state to try and accomplish that is to have a shopping cart full of random magazine and newspaper clippings. I do realize that is difficult to display on the internet, though). </p>
<p>It is also not the job of the sane to try and cure people with your malady &#8211; that is for professionals who can prescribe anti-psychotic drugs to treat your chemical imbalances.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Quijote</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/27210/jon-stewart-rips-obama-on-troop-insurance/comment-page-1/#comment-176956</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Quijote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AR, &lt;br&gt;Please make a list of commentators/pundits who wrote op-eds or appeared on TV prior to March 2003 telling the public that invading Iraq would be a bad idea. Links required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AR, <br />Please make a list of commentators/pundits who wrote op-eds or appeared on TV prior to March 2003 telling the public that invading Iraq would be a bad idea. Links required.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/27210/jon-stewart-rips-obama-on-troop-insurance/comment-page-1/#comment-176950</link>
		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear God, DQ, you have let your meds lapse, and have entered fully into DU territory.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So now Malkin, et. al., the pundits and commentators, are responsible for &quot;how we ended up in Iraq, how we ended up in the greatest recession since the 1930&#039;s, how we ended up bailing out to the tune of a few hundred billions dollars, how we ended up in hock to the Chinese and how we are going to spend a few more billions in Afghanistan with nothing to show for it&quot;????&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, at least it is no longer SatanCheney and BushHalliburtonHitler who caused that!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For DQ&#039;s next revelation, Rush Limbaugh caused AIDS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear God, DQ, you have let your meds lapse, and have entered fully into DU territory.</p>
<p>So now Malkin, et. al., the pundits and commentators, are responsible for &#8220;how we ended up in Iraq, how we ended up in the greatest recession since the 1930&#39;s, how we ended up bailing out to the tune of a few hundred billions dollars, how we ended up in hock to the Chinese and how we are going to spend a few more billions in Afghanistan with nothing to show for it&#8221;????</p>
<p>Well, at least it is no longer SatanCheney and BushHalliburtonHitler who caused that!</p>
<p>For DQ&#39;s next revelation, Rush Limbaugh caused AIDS.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Quijote</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/27210/jon-stewart-rips-obama-on-troop-insurance/comment-page-1/#comment-176949</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Quijote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not accurate, Malkin and company come up with the stupidest ideas imaginable, wrap them up in the ugliest language possible and throw them out to the mob, the moderates then come along, clean up the language, wrap the ideas up in some nice wholesome language and sell them to the public, which is how we ended up in Iraq, how we ended up in the greatest recession since the 1930&#039;s, how we ended up bailing out  to the tune of a few hundred billions dollars, how we ended up in hock to the Chinese and how we are going to spend a few more billions in Afghanistan with nothing to show for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s not accurate, Malkin and company come up with the stupidest ideas imaginable, wrap them up in the ugliest language possible and throw them out to the mob, the moderates then come along, clean up the language, wrap the ideas up in some nice wholesome language and sell them to the public, which is how we ended up in Iraq, how we ended up in the greatest recession since the 1930&#39;s, how we ended up bailing out  to the tune of a few hundred billions dollars, how we ended up in hock to the Chinese and how we are going to spend a few more billions in Afghanistan with nothing to show for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Merritt</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/27210/jon-stewart-rips-obama-on-troop-insurance/comment-page-1/#comment-176921</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Merritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, Don.  Interestingly, Michelle Malkin and co. routinely do the opposite of what you&#039;re doing here.  For example, they say that John McCain does the same thing...for Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, Don.  Interestingly, Michelle Malkin and co. routinely do the opposite of what you&#39;re doing here.  For example, they say that John McCain does the same thing&#8230;for Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Quijote</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/27210/jon-stewart-rips-obama-on-troop-insurance/comment-page-1/#comment-176911</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Quijote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is one of the things I hate (absolutely hate) about this site, for the so called &quot;moderates&quot; here everything has to be equivalent.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No, No, No ...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s not the way it works. To be a real moderate you have to kiss republican ass until you can figure out exactly what they had for lunch unless they do something really stupid like start a war of choice to find weapons of mass destruction that don&#039;t exist, in which case you can stop kissing ass and criticizing, by which point it&#039;s too late to do anything but attempt to mitigate the damage, but remember next time they propose something equally stupid you must give them the benefit of the doubt. On the other hand you must nitpick every thing a democrat does, and never ever give them the benefit of the doubt. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That &#039;s a real moderate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is one of the things I hate (absolutely hate) about this site, for the so called &#8220;moderates&#8221; here everything has to be equivalent.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, No, No &#8230;</p>
<p>That&#39;s not the way it works. To be a real moderate you have to kiss republican ass until you can figure out exactly what they had for lunch unless they do something really stupid like start a war of choice to find weapons of mass destruction that don&#39;t exist, in which case you can stop kissing ass and criticizing, by which point it&#39;s too late to do anything but attempt to mitigate the damage, but remember next time they propose something equally stupid you must give them the benefit of the doubt. On the other hand you must nitpick every thing a democrat does, and never ever give them the benefit of the doubt. </p>
<p>That &#39;s a real moderate.</p>
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