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	<title>Comments on: Nationalize Banks? Of Course!</title>
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		<title>By: &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Necessary News</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Necessary News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>StockBoySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 06:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am fundamentally against nationalization of the banks (or any private enterprise).... And I&#039;ve commented on here several times on this.  There are two primary reasons I&#039;m against nationalization:  let the markets, shareholders and customers weed the good from the bad- the very idea behind capitalism, and the second reason is more populist.... the number of shareholders and retired people who in these increasingly difficult times will lose everything they&#039;ve ever invested in those institutions which are nationalized.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But the last couple of days I&#039;m having second thoughts...  These are extraordinary times and quite frankly the chiefs at Citi, BofA and some other institutions wanted to earn money and were willing to get into risky investments, and investments that they had no business getting into and to the extent they did... certainly some exposure to these risky investments is to be expected, but not the huge exposure some institutions have.  And these banks&#039; risk models proved to be inadequate....  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So the bottom line is these institutions largely brought their current state upon themselves (though stock market panic might be playing a role, too as investors, not sure what to expect, flee these institutions, in turn causing more investors and these institutions&#039; customers to flee).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As far as shareholder value.... well that&#039;s mostly gone and the uncertainty is causing problems with healthier institutions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I totally agree with what you said, &quot;Sometimes you just gotta let it go.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am fundamentally against nationalization of the banks (or any private enterprise)&#8230;. And I&#39;ve commented on here several times on this.  There are two primary reasons I&#39;m against nationalization:  let the markets, shareholders and customers weed the good from the bad- the very idea behind capitalism, and the second reason is more populist&#8230;. the number of shareholders and retired people who in these increasingly difficult times will lose everything they&#39;ve ever invested in those institutions which are nationalized.</p>
<p>But the last couple of days I&#39;m having second thoughts&#8230;  These are extraordinary times and quite frankly the chiefs at Citi, BofA and some other institutions wanted to earn money and were willing to get into risky investments, and investments that they had no business getting into and to the extent they did&#8230; certainly some exposure to these risky investments is to be expected, but not the huge exposure some institutions have.  And these banks&#39; risk models proved to be inadequate&#8230;.  </p>
<p>So the bottom line is these institutions largely brought their current state upon themselves (though stock market panic might be playing a role, too as investors, not sure what to expect, flee these institutions, in turn causing more investors and these institutions&#39; customers to flee).</p>
<p>As far as shareholder value&#8230;. well that&#39;s mostly gone and the uncertainty is causing problems with healthier institutions.</p>
<p>So I totally agree with what you said, &#8220;Sometimes you just gotta let it go.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Beasley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Beasley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s going to happen - 14 banks have been &quot;nationalized&quot; in the first 7 weeks of 09.  The best thing to do is do it quickly, the big guys should not be excepted, and get it behind us so we can move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s going to happen &#8211; 14 banks have been &#8220;nationalized&#8221; in the first 7 weeks of 09.  The best thing to do is do it quickly, the big guys should not be excepted, and get it behind us so we can move on.</p>
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