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	<title>Comments on: Banks &amp; Crime: Schools For Scoundrels?</title>
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		<title>By: Dr_J</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/26479/banks-crime-schools-for-scoundrels/comment-page-1/#comment-172969</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr_J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swaraaj, the problem with bank nationalization is that the government can&#039;t run a bank any more responsibly or with any better foresight than private owners.  (&quot;Myopic,&quot; as you said yourself.)  Have a look at Congress trying to oversee Fannie Mae a few years ago (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs%29;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs);&lt;/a&gt; it&#039;s pretty clear they simply didn&#039;t know what to do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for government and political leaders being &quot;held accountable,&quot; I can&#039;t imagine what that means.  Clinton wasn&#039;t held accountable for the side-effects of the community reinvestment act, nor were the congressmen in that video held accountable for their mistakes.  At least private owners have fortunes and careers in the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swaraaj, the problem with bank nationalization is that the government can&#39;t run a bank any more responsibly or with any better foresight than private owners.  (&#8220;Myopic,&#8221; as you said yourself.)  Have a look at Congress trying to oversee Fannie Mae a few years ago (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs%29;" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs</a>); it&#39;s pretty clear they simply didn&#39;t know what to do.</p>
<p>As for government and political leaders being &#8220;held accountable,&#8221; I can&#39;t imagine what that means.  Clinton wasn&#39;t held accountable for the side-effects of the community reinvestment act, nor were the congressmen in that video held accountable for their mistakes.  At least private owners have fortunes and careers in the game.</p>
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		<title>By: swaraaj</title>
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		<dc:creator>swaraaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 05:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question Dr_J.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But before answering your question, yet another question. Why was the entire US nation, along with the financial think-tanks.opinion-makers/media doing for the past two decades when the loot was visible?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why do we wake up only when the water has reached the nose? Why do we think that the responsibility for everything concerning us is only rests with the government? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is an old saying &quot;VIGILANCE IS THE PRICE OF LIBERTY&quot;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bank nationalization is not for all times to come. I would never have recommended this when Bush &amp; Co were in power. But with Barack Obama and his team enjoying public support and trust, there is no reason to suspect that their intentions would be suspect.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please understand that if the banks lose trust and indulge in criminal activities, the roots of the a country begin shaking and instability follows that can threaten the survival of a nation. This is not just a case of a bail-out of a company in a crisis. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The banks provide a lifeline to the financial stability of the entire economic fabric of a country/world. Once they begin failing, these can&#039;t be left in the hands of a crippled system run by private operators who have no accountability.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At least the government and political leaders can be held accountable. And in this regard elrod has made an interesting point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question Dr_J.</p>
<p>But before answering your question, yet another question. Why was the entire US nation, along with the financial think-tanks.opinion-makers/media doing for the past two decades when the loot was visible?</p>
<p>Why do we wake up only when the water has reached the nose? Why do we think that the responsibility for everything concerning us is only rests with the government? </p>
<p>There is an old saying &#8220;VIGILANCE IS THE PRICE OF LIBERTY&#8221;. </p>
<p>Bank nationalization is not for all times to come. I would never have recommended this when Bush &#038; Co were in power. But with Barack Obama and his team enjoying public support and trust, there is no reason to suspect that their intentions would be suspect.</p>
<p>Please understand that if the banks lose trust and indulge in criminal activities, the roots of the a country begin shaking and instability follows that can threaten the survival of a nation. This is not just a case of a bail-out of a company in a crisis. </p>
<p>The banks provide a lifeline to the financial stability of the entire economic fabric of a country/world. Once they begin failing, these can&#39;t be left in the hands of a crippled system run by private operators who have no accountability.</p>
<p>At least the government and political leaders can be held accountable. And in this regard elrod has made an interesting point.</p>
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		<title>By: Loviatar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loviatar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 05:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, but, this can&#039;t be true, &lt;a href=&quot;http://themoderatevoice.com/26477/congress-end-runs-obama-on-pay-caps/#disqus_thread&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CasulaObserver&lt;/a&gt; say he missed the newscast where the banks have FAILED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, but, this can&#39;t be true, <a href="http://themoderatevoice.com/26477/congress-end-runs-obama-on-pay-caps/#disqus_thread" rel="nofollow">CasulaObserver</a> say he missed the newscast where the banks have FAILED.</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 04:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I already proposed receivership. Do the stress test. Have the Treasury - perhaps FDIC - &quot;purchase&quot; the insolvent banks at market prices (i.e. virtually nothing). Sift through the toxic assets and sell them off to vulture capitalists at bargain basement prices. Then re-privatize the &quot;good bank&quot;.  While in receivership, the bank can continue to take deposits and make loans. But a new administrator will take over - just as in bankruptcy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t see any other way to get the toxic junk off the banks and prevent them from becoming zombies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already proposed receivership. Do the stress test. Have the Treasury &#8211; perhaps FDIC &#8211; &#8220;purchase&#8221; the insolvent banks at market prices (i.e. virtually nothing). Sift through the toxic assets and sell them off to vulture capitalists at bargain basement prices. Then re-privatize the &#8220;good bank&#8221;.  While in receivership, the bank can continue to take deposits and make loans. But a new administrator will take over &#8211; just as in bankruptcy.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t see any other way to get the toxic junk off the banks and prevent them from becoming zombies.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr_J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr_J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 04:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And your recommendation is...sorry, what was it again?  Put the banks in the hands of greedy, myopic political leaders because that worked well in India?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree with the analysis of the problem, that the banks are broke, without a plan to recover, and voracious for whatever handouts they can get.  In other words, they&#039;re a lot like the homeless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And your recommendation is&#8230;sorry, what was it again?  Put the banks in the hands of greedy, myopic political leaders because that worked well in India?  </p>
<p>I agree with the analysis of the problem, that the banks are broke, without a plan to recover, and voracious for whatever handouts they can get.  In other words, they&#39;re a lot like the homeless.</p>
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