Comments on: Quote of the Day: Gregg, The GOP And The War On Obama http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Mon, 28 May 2012 20:15:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: richard_mcenroe http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172764 richard_mcenroe Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:28:57 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172764 Where is the 'bipartisanship' in describing a fundamental policy disagreement between political parties as a 'war on Obama?' Was there a 'war on Bush' somebody somehow overlooked.<br><br>If the Great and Powerful Ob is <i>lucky</i>, Republicans <i>won't</i> go after him the way the Democratic party (and as a former Democrat I still get all the mailings and e-mails so I know precisely what I'm talking about) and their pet media and celebrity packs went after Bush, the GOP and conservatives.<br><br>But he doesn't <i>deserve</i> their restraint and nothing in his conduct since taking office has earned it for him. Where is the 'bipartisanship' in describing a fundamental policy disagreement between political parties as a 'war on Obama?' Was there a 'war on Bush' somebody somehow overlooked.

If the Great and Powerful Ob is lucky, Republicans won't go after him the way the Democratic party (and as a former Democrat I still get all the mailings and e-mails so I know precisely what I'm talking about) and their pet media and celebrity packs went after Bush, the GOP and conservatives.

But he doesn't deserve their restraint and nothing in his conduct since taking office has earned it for him.

]]> By: CStanley http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172756 CStanley Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:01:34 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172756 Yes, I do see now that there is one commenter taking that tone- I guess I tend to tune out vitriolic stuff from both sides. Yes, I do see now that there is one commenter taking that tone- I guess I tend to tune out vitriolic stuff from both sides.

]]> By: D. E.Rodriguez http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172750 D. E.Rodriguez Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:12:24 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172750 Good point, C.S.<br><br>I was referring to comments like:<br><br>"Now you expect us to shut up and go away seeing what this neo-marxist is up to after the vial venom the left spewed over the last 8 years? NO WAY! I will fight this administration and the Democrats with everything I have! They haven't stopped trying to silence and destroy us, so we're not going to sit back and take it anymore! "<br><br>But, again, If I misread such comments, I apologize. If not, have at it, it is your right, which I defend, and have defended for twenty years. Good point, C.S.

I was referring to comments like:

“Now you expect us to shut up and go away seeing what this neo-marxist is up to after the vial venom the left spewed over the last 8 years? NO WAY! I will fight this administration and the Democrats with everything I have! They haven't stopped trying to silence and destroy us, so we're not going to sit back and take it anymore! “

But, again, If I misread such comments, I apologize. If not, have at it, it is your right, which I defend, and have defended for twenty years.

]]> By: bigurn http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172745 bigurn Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:29:49 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172745 Sir: I have serious reservations with your comments that Republicans are actively working against the Obama administration. First, and most obvious: Did you complain, ever, over the last eight years?<br><br>But, secondly, when does debate amount to internecine warfare? Is my hesitation about this multi-Trillion-dollar spending make me an enemy of the Obama administration? I would think that asking my governmental representatives to explain their leadership strategy would be the height of patriotism. A responsible person questioning a responsible government is a check-and-balance system, not a fight.<br><br>I have strong reservations about this spending plan. I think it's far too much money, and will go to entitlement plans that will burden the recession, not improve it. I think the government ought to take the time to explain why their taking MY MONEY, and my children and grandchildren's money. I think responsible leaders will do this. I think irresponsible leaders will try to rush this so that it becomes law before its full impact is known. And I think most of the government is behaving irresponsibly. If that puts me athwart the Obama administration, too bad. He works for me, and he should explain himself in detail, with dollars, in easy terms for every American to understand. Sir: I have serious reservations with your comments that Republicans are actively working against the Obama administration. First, and most obvious: Did you complain, ever, over the last eight years?

But, secondly, when does debate amount to internecine warfare? Is my hesitation about this multi-Trillion-dollar spending make me an enemy of the Obama administration? I would think that asking my governmental representatives to explain their leadership strategy would be the height of patriotism. A responsible person questioning a responsible government is a check-and-balance system, not a fight.

I have strong reservations about this spending plan. I think it's far too much money, and will go to entitlement plans that will burden the recession, not improve it. I think the government ought to take the time to explain why their taking MY MONEY, and my children and grandchildren's money. I think responsible leaders will do this. I think irresponsible leaders will try to rush this so that it becomes law before its full impact is known. And I think most of the government is behaving irresponsibly. If that puts me athwart the Obama administration, too bad. He works for me, and he should explain himself in detail, with dollars, in easy terms for every American to understand.

]]> By: CStanley http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172732 CStanley Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:04:43 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172732 D.E., I think it actually reconciles in the opposite direction, so it's more like:<br>We know that liberals who bashed Bush didn't actually want the country to fail, they just felt strongly that his policies were wrong; we hope that those who felt that way can also now see that we disagree strongly with the sharp turn to the left that Obama and the Democrats are taking. D.E., I think it actually reconciles in the opposite direction, so it's more like:
We know that liberals who bashed Bush didn't actually want the country to fail, they just felt strongly that his policies were wrong; we hope that those who felt that way can also now see that we disagree strongly with the sharp turn to the left that Obama and the Democrats are taking.

]]> By: D. E.Rodriguez http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172728 D. E.Rodriguez Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:45:24 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172728 I hope that this is not what I am reading in some of these comments:<br><br>Those hypocrite, unpatriotic, treehugging Liberals bashed our President for eight solid years.<br><br>So let's do the same to their President, the well-being of our nation be damned.<br><br>If I misread them I apologize<br><br>If that's exactly what they are meant to convey, fine, I'll defend your right to do so I hope that this is not what I am reading in some of these comments:

Those hypocrite, unpatriotic, treehugging Liberals bashed our President for eight solid years.

So let's do the same to their President, the well-being of our nation be damned.

If I misread them I apologize

If that's exactly what they are meant to convey, fine, I'll defend your right to do so

]]> By: Confessions of a Pilgrim - The War on Obama http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172720 Confessions of a Pilgrim - The War on Obama Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:20:29 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172720 [...] Gandleman has a piece quoting Sullivan about the Obama Administration and the Republicans.  This should be interesting. [...] [...] Gandleman has a piece quoting Sullivan about the Obama Administration and the Republicans.  This should be interesting. [...]

]]> By: Dan71 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172713 Dan71 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:03:33 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172713 Lady Logician, I appreciate your courtesy. Thank you.<br><br>CapitalG, please don't be disingenuous. "Monkey" is a well-known racist epithet for black Americans. Referring to a black man with the epithet of "monkey" is racist; referring to a white person isn't. Also, posting a comment on this site using the term "House Negro" might well be cause for a ban. That's not the issue. The issue is your use of a racist epithet. Lady Logician, I appreciate your courtesy. Thank you.

CapitalG, please don't be disingenuous. “Monkey” is a well-known racist epithet for black Americans. Referring to a black man with the epithet of “monkey” is racist; referring to a white person isn't. Also, posting a comment on this site using the term “House Negro” might well be cause for a ban. That's not the issue. The issue is your use of a racist epithet.

]]> By: CapitalG http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172705 CapitalG Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:22:45 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172705 Crusader - have you noticed that since Obama dropped the charges on the Cole bombing mastermind he is now being held at GITMO without charges?<br><br>Wasn't the left going nuts over that when Bush did it? Where is the outrage now?<br><br>What a bunch of hypocrites.<br><br>They turn their backs on our country when we are at war - and we're supposed to feel bad about opposing a porkulus bill that Congress won't even have a chance to read before voting on it?<br><br>Oh, this is going to be fun!<br><br>They can hurl insults pretty effectively - but they run away crying when they are the ones who have to answer to the critics.<br><br>Joe and Andy you guys are a joke. Crusader – have you noticed that since Obama dropped the charges on the Cole bombing mastermind he is now being held at GITMO without charges?

Wasn't the left going nuts over that when Bush did it? Where is the outrage now?

What a bunch of hypocrites.

They turn their backs on our country when we are at war – and we're supposed to feel bad about opposing a porkulus bill that Congress won't even have a chance to read before voting on it?

Oh, this is going to be fun!

They can hurl insults pretty effectively – but they run away crying when they are the ones who have to answer to the critics.

Joe and Andy you guys are a joke.

]]> By: CapitalG http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172702 CapitalG Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:16:37 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172702 I would submit that I was going to call the next Democrat President a monkey regardless of who it was.<br><br>So if I were to decide to NOT call him Obamonkey based simply on the color of his skin then I would be racist.<br><br>Are you forgetting the left calling Powell and Condi 'House Negroes'? Were you calling those folks racist? I doubt it. I would submit that I was going to call the next Democrat President a monkey regardless of who it was.

So if I were to decide to NOT call him Obamonkey based simply on the color of his skin then I would be racist.

Are you forgetting the left calling Powell and Condi 'House Negroes'? Were you calling those folks racist? I doubt it.

]]> By: CrusaderPatriot http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172700 CrusaderPatriot Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:58:32 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172700 Please! First of all, he is sabotaging himself by heading far to the left immediately. He ran in the center to fool you so called "moderates" into voting for him. His first act, abortions for foreigners paid for by the American taxpayor. His 2nd act, closing Gitmo which everyone knows will lead to the killers eventual release. Now, this PORK bill! It does provide "busy work", temporary jobs that have no future. It doesn't produce anything to sell so we can pay down our debt and it doesn't lead to long term work. It's also a big government grab at our freedom from nationalizing health care to stealth gun control in this legislation. Even the Democrat controlled Congressional Budget Office says this bill is a disaster! The Democrats seek to silence anyone who opposes them! Bi-partisanship to Obama means agree with me or else! Now you expect us to shut up and go away seeing what this neo-marxist is up to after the vial venom the left spewed over the last 8 years? NO WAY! I will fight this administration and the Democrats with everything I have! They haven't stopped trying to silence and destroy us, so we're not going to sit back and take it anymore! <a href="http://CrusaderPatriot.com" rel="nofollow">CrusaderPatriot.com</a> Please! First of all, he is sabotaging himself by heading far to the left immediately. He ran in the center to fool you so called “moderates” into voting for him. His first act, abortions for foreigners paid for by the American taxpayor. His 2nd act, closing Gitmo which everyone knows will lead to the killers eventual release. Now, this PORK bill! It does provide “busy work”, temporary jobs that have no future. It doesn't produce anything to sell so we can pay down our debt and it doesn't lead to long term work. It's also a big government grab at our freedom from nationalizing health care to stealth gun control in this legislation. Even the Democrat controlled Congressional Budget Office says this bill is a disaster! The Democrats seek to silence anyone who opposes them! Bi-partisanship to Obama means agree with me or else! Now you expect us to shut up and go away seeing what this neo-marxist is up to after the vial venom the left spewed over the last 8 years? NO WAY! I will fight this administration and the Democrats with everything I have! They haven't stopped trying to silence and destroy us, so we're not going to sit back and take it anymore! CrusaderPatriot.com

]]> By: lightduty http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172695 lightduty Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:39:47 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172695 Andrew Sullivan wrote: "Their clear and open intent is to do all they can, however they can, to sabotage the new administration (and the economy to boot). They want failure. Even now"<br><br>If the GOP is intent on sabatoging Obama, why do they tend to point the finger at Pelosi and Reid? Yes, Rush, Hannity et al. talk smack about Obama. But that's what commentators do. But much of the criticism that's taken place of Obama so far has been very issue-related. Lots of economists think the stimulus plan won't work. Many people fear the changes to our health care system in the stimulus package, and wonder why it wasn't put up as a separate bill. That's not the same as chanting "Bush Lied, People Died", and asking for War Crimes trials for our President. Obama has already blown up some babies in Pakistan, so why not put him in the peaceniks crosshairs now? Andrew Sullivan wrote: “Their clear and open intent is to do all they can, however they can, to sabotage the new administration (and the economy to boot). They want failure. Even now”

If the GOP is intent on sabatoging Obama, why do they tend to point the finger at Pelosi and Reid? Yes, Rush, Hannity et al. talk smack about Obama. But that's what commentators do. But much of the criticism that's taken place of Obama so far has been very issue-related. Lots of economists think the stimulus plan won't work. Many people fear the changes to our health care system in the stimulus package, and wonder why it wasn't put up as a separate bill. That's not the same as chanting “Bush Lied, People Died”, and asking for War Crimes trials for our President. Obama has already blown up some babies in Pakistan, so why not put him in the peaceniks crosshairs now?

]]> By: Andrew Sullivan’s War of Words Against The Republicans - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172693 Andrew Sullivan’s War of Words Against The Republicans - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:33:04 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172693 [...] those who seem to appear to see it in this context are Joe Gandelman of The Moderate Voice: Some will quibble with how Sullivan words this, but it is indeed [...] [...] those who seem to appear to see it in this context are Joe Gandelman of The Moderate Voice: Some will quibble with how Sullivan words this, but it is indeed [...]

]]> By: LadyLogician http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172691 LadyLogician Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:19:36 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172691 Dan - Agreed - CapitalG's comment was out of line. Whether it is worthy of deletion is Joe's call (his house and all) but I join you in condemning the remarks are totally over uncalled for.<br><br>LL Dan – Agreed – CapitalG's comment was out of line. Whether it is worthy of deletion is Joe's call (his house and all) but I join you in condemning the remarks are totally over uncalled for.

LL

]]> By: Davebo http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172690 Davebo Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:19:16 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172690 LadyLogician...<br><br>Apparantly Google <a href-"http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2009/02/file-under-shooting-ones-own-foot-off-dept" rel="nofollow">is your enemy!</a> LadyLogician…

Apparantly Google is your enemy!

]]> By: Dan71 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172689 Dan71 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:14:32 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172689 First, the taunt that "Youdidittous so wedoittoyou nyah nyah nyah!" is not the response of adults, buts of children.<br><br>Second, Joe, I note in your comments policy that racist comments will result in deletion of the comment and possibly being banned. May I suggest that the commenter who used the racist phrase "Obamonkey" has crossed that line? First, the taunt that “Youdidittous so wedoittoyou nyah nyah nyah!” is not the response of adults, buts of children.

Second, Joe, I note in your comments policy that racist comments will result in deletion of the comment and possibly being banned. May I suggest that the commenter who used the racist phrase “Obamonkey” has crossed that line?

]]> By: Surrender Monkey Friday: Excitable Andy Purchases His Clown Suit : Stop The ACLU http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172686 Surrender Monkey Friday: Excitable Andy Purchases His Clown Suit : Stop The ACLU Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:10:27 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172686 [...] Ed Morrissey writes, regarding Excitable Andy’s GOP war on Obambi as Ed smacks down Joe Gandelman When Republican Congressmen and Senators start calling for Obama to be impeached, like we have [...] [...] Ed Morrissey writes, regarding Excitable Andy’s GOP war on Obambi as Ed smacks down Joe Gandelman When Republican Congressmen and Senators start calling for Obama to be impeached, like we have [...]

]]> By: Surrender Monkey Friday: Excitable Andy Purchases His Clown Suit » Pirate’s Cove — Blimey! http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172685 Surrender Monkey Friday: Excitable Andy Purchases His Clown Suit » Pirate’s Cove — Blimey! Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:09:27 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172685 [...] Ed Morrissey writes, regarding Excitable Andy’s GOP war on Obambi as Ed smacks down Joe Gandelman When Republican Congressmen and Senators start calling for Obama to be impeached, like we have [...] [...] Ed Morrissey writes, regarding Excitable Andy’s GOP war on Obambi as Ed smacks down Joe Gandelman When Republican Congressmen and Senators start calling for Obama to be impeached, like we have [...]

]]> By: LadyLogician http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172683 LadyLogician Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:06:12 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172683 "And the CBO never said that doing nothing would be better than this bill. If you're going to say they did, provide a link to the document."<br><br>Google is your friend....<br><br><a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/04/cbo-obama-stimulus-harmful-over-long-haul/" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/04...</a><br><br>President Obama's economic recovery package will actually hurt the economy more in the long run than if he were to do nothing, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday.<br><br>CBO, the official scorekeepers for legislation, said the House and Senate bills will help in the short term but result in so much government debt that within a few years they would crowd out private investment, actually leading to a lower Gross Domestic Product over the next 10 years than if the government had done nothing. <br><br>You're welcome.....<br><br>LL “And the CBO never said that doing nothing would be better than this bill. If you're going to say they did, provide a link to the document.”

Google is your friend….

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/04…

President Obama's economic recovery package will actually hurt the economy more in the long run than if he were to do nothing, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday.

CBO, the official scorekeepers for legislation, said the House and Senate bills will help in the short term but result in so much government debt that within a few years they would crowd out private investment, actually leading to a lower Gross Domestic Product over the next 10 years than if the government had done nothing.

You're welcome…..

LL

]]> By: LadyLogician http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-172681 LadyLogician Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:58:09 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26427/quote-of-the-day-gregg-the-gop-and-the-war-on-obama/#comment-172681 Oh and you still have not answered one legit question that Quisp asked. How is locking the Republicans OUT of the negotiating room "bi-partisan"?<br><br>LL Oh and you still have not answered one legit question that Quisp asked. How is locking the Republicans OUT of the negotiating room “bi-partisan”?

LL

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