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	<title>Comments on: Selling the Stimulus: How Republican Spin Is Dominating the Narrative, and What Democrats Need To Do To Fight Back</title>
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		<title>By: Leonidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 05:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there things in the Stimulas package that benefit from being implimented ASAP?  Yes there are.  Are there things in the package that could benefit from a longer term debate, analysis and adjustment?  Yes there are those as well.  So why are we being given this &quot;weapons of mass destruction, must act now&quot; rhetoric?  What should be done is to divide this gargantuan bill into two workable parts, one that addresses the immediate that can quickly be acted upon without the need to debate the longer term issues of the remainder.  Many of these areas have wider bipartisan support and can be pushed though quickly, leaving the rest for a more detailed evaluation.  Given the price tag on this monster of a bill, we really cannot afford to have a do over and care needs to be taken and we should not rush through what need not be rushed.   We need to take care of the immediate and not throw in partisan wish lists out of fear of not acting quickly enough.  Only a division of the bill is likely to achieve this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The President can play a constructive role and show true leadership by recognizing and dividing the short and longer term necessities and this will allow him to address more bipartisan concerns than writing editorials in the Washington Post trying to hammer in a mantra of &quot;Now is the time&quot;, &quot;Now is the time&quot;, &quot;Now is the time&quot;.......  Sorry, but for much of this package Now is not the time, for some of it, there will never be a time for it.  We need clear thinking, time to consider, and the pooling of various information, knowledge and opinions on those parts that aren&#039;t of immediate impact which make up a majority of the legislation.  We don&#039;t need the politics of fear, we had enough of that, we want a change of that, not a continuation under a new banner.  Obama&#039;s article was entitled &quot;The Action Americans Need&quot;, well the real Action American&#039;s Need, is a level headed leadership that isn&#039;t afraid of a reasoned debate and wont rush to a paniced decision when it need not do so.  We need the President to seperate this bill to address both the concern for quick action on some fronts, and the need for wiser and more thought out action on others.  We need leadership not a stump speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there things in the Stimulas package that benefit from being implimented ASAP?  Yes there are.  Are there things in the package that could benefit from a longer term debate, analysis and adjustment?  Yes there are those as well.  So why are we being given this &#8220;weapons of mass destruction, must act now&#8221; rhetoric?  What should be done is to divide this gargantuan bill into two workable parts, one that addresses the immediate that can quickly be acted upon without the need to debate the longer term issues of the remainder.  Many of these areas have wider bipartisan support and can be pushed though quickly, leaving the rest for a more detailed evaluation.  Given the price tag on this monster of a bill, we really cannot afford to have a do over and care needs to be taken and we should not rush through what need not be rushed.   We need to take care of the immediate and not throw in partisan wish lists out of fear of not acting quickly enough.  Only a division of the bill is likely to achieve this.</p>
<p>The President can play a constructive role and show true leadership by recognizing and dividing the short and longer term necessities and this will allow him to address more bipartisan concerns than writing editorials in the Washington Post trying to hammer in a mantra of &#8220;Now is the time&#8221;, &#8220;Now is the time&#8221;, &#8220;Now is the time&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;.  Sorry, but for much of this package Now is not the time, for some of it, there will never be a time for it.  We need clear thinking, time to consider, and the pooling of various information, knowledge and opinions on those parts that aren&#39;t of immediate impact which make up a majority of the legislation.  We don&#39;t need the politics of fear, we had enough of that, we want a change of that, not a continuation under a new banner.  Obama&#39;s article was entitled &#8220;The Action Americans Need&#8221;, well the real Action American&#39;s Need, is a level headed leadership that isn&#39;t afraid of a reasoned debate and wont rush to a paniced decision when it need not do so.  We need the President to seperate this bill to address both the concern for quick action on some fronts, and the need for wiser and more thought out action on others.  We need leadership not a stump speech.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 01:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about &#039;the House stimulus bill sucked shit, was nothing more than a pork-laden gift from Democrats to themselves, and now that the public has had a chance to see what they did they are disgusted&#039;?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This whole hullabaloo is NOT the Republican&#039;s fault - it is a bed of the Democrat&#039;s own making. If they had passed a bill that truly focused on stimulus activities, rather than trying to sell any and all forms of their spending wish lists as &#039;stimulus&#039;, they would have carried the day, and been seen as heroes (well, at least until the inevitable fact that government cannot spend an economy back to health became apparent, but that would have been years out)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about &#39;the House stimulus bill sucked shit, was nothing more than a pork-laden gift from Democrats to themselves, and now that the public has had a chance to see what they did they are disgusted&#39;?</p>
<p>This whole hullabaloo is NOT the Republican&#39;s fault &#8211; it is a bed of the Democrat&#39;s own making. If they had passed a bill that truly focused on stimulus activities, rather than trying to sell any and all forms of their spending wish lists as &#39;stimulus&#39;, they would have carried the day, and been seen as heroes (well, at least until the inevitable fact that government cannot spend an economy back to health became apparent, but that would have been years out)</p>
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		<title>By: Economic Stimulus &#171; Liberty Street</title>
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		<dc:creator>Economic Stimulus &#171; Liberty Street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Stickings raises the issue of who controls the narrative in Washington, and why: Yesterday, my friend Creature noted that public support for the current [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Stickings raises the issue of who controls the narrative in Washington, and why: Yesterday, my friend Creature noted that public support for the current [...]</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>treen,&lt;br&gt;Here is a state-by-state breakdown of where the money &lt;a href=&quot;http://dpc.senate.gov/dpc-new.cfm?doc_name=fs-111-1-11&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;goes&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And here is the House bill that &lt;a href=&quot;http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c111:2:./temp/~c111hvucsE::&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;passed&lt;/a&gt; last week.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Peruse at your heart&#039;s content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>treen,<br />Here is a state-by-state breakdown of where the money <a href="http://dpc.senate.gov/dpc-new.cfm?doc_name=fs-111-1-11" rel="nofollow">goes</a>.</p>
<p>And here is the House bill that <a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c111:2:./temp/~c111hvucsE::" rel="nofollow">passed</a> last week.</p>
<p>Peruse at your heart&#39;s content.</p>
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		<title>By: treen</title>
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		<dc:creator>treen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about someone actually make a checklist of what&#039;s in this monstrous bill instead of whining about the obstructionist Republicans and the &quot;complicit&quot; media (who, I might remind you, is also accused of sucking up to Obama). Even Obama didn&#039;t say anything in his op-ed besides griping about the Republicans. This is really gotten aggravating. It also makes me tune out anything productive you might say as an editorialist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about someone actually make a checklist of what&#39;s in this monstrous bill instead of whining about the obstructionist Republicans and the &#8220;complicit&#8221; media (who, I might remind you, is also accused of sucking up to Obama). Even Obama didn&#39;t say anything in his op-ed besides griping about the Republicans. This is really gotten aggravating. It also makes me tune out anything productive you might say as an editorialist.</p>
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