Comments on: The Republicans Have Nothing to Party About http://themoderatevoice.com/26161/the-republicans-have-nothing-to-party-about/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:12:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: roro80 http://themoderatevoice.com/26161/the-republicans-have-nothing-to-party-about/comment-page-1/#comment-171438 roro80 Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:35:11 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26161/the-republicans-have-nothing-to-party-about/#comment-171438 The R's threw a fit about about the family planning -- it was taken out, even though any adult who's had a kid knows that getting ahead financially with them around is nearly impossible. They threw more fits about tax cuts -- now they're a full 1/3 of the package. Billions of dollars so that each adult can get $500 extra tax dollars -- that worked out *so* well last time. Thank goodness so many folks have last years' $600 saved up now that they don't have jobs. That's gonna pay a full week's rent! If the Republicans could come up with better ideas than "tax cuts" and "tax cuts" and more "tax cuts", maybe there could be some discussion here. What I've heard from the onslaught of right-leaning pundits is the same crap that got us into this mess in the first place -- tax cuts, deregulation, blah blah blah about bootstraps. <br><br>I keep hearing terms like "pork" and "wish list". Let's be honest here -- if the Dem's wish list includes getting people back to work and being able to get by with lower health care costs and some extra unemployment checks, well, that's pretty much my wish for this stimulus too. Tax cuts are super, but that extra $500 isn't going to stem the job losses, it isn't going to pay for medical bills, it isn't going to get people out consuming again. <br><br>And pork. "Pork" is a cute term for "infrastructure projects in my area that give people jobs". So I would encourage everyone from a Republican district to call your Congressperson and make sure none of the stimulus "pork" comes to your area to create jobs and give you better roads and bridges and cheaper health care. Because "pork" is bad, bad, bad. The R's threw a fit about about the family planning — it was taken out, even though any adult who's had a kid knows that getting ahead financially with them around is nearly impossible. They threw more fits about tax cuts — now they're a full 1/3 of the package. Billions of dollars so that each adult can get $500 extra tax dollars — that worked out *so* well last time. Thank goodness so many folks have last years' $600 saved up now that they don't have jobs. That's gonna pay a full week's rent! If the Republicans could come up with better ideas than “tax cuts” and “tax cuts” and more “tax cuts”, maybe there could be some discussion here. What I've heard from the onslaught of right-leaning pundits is the same crap that got us into this mess in the first place — tax cuts, deregulation, blah blah blah about bootstraps.

I keep hearing terms like “pork” and “wish list”. Let's be honest here — if the Dem's wish list includes getting people back to work and being able to get by with lower health care costs and some extra unemployment checks, well, that's pretty much my wish for this stimulus too. Tax cuts are super, but that extra $500 isn't going to stem the job losses, it isn't going to pay for medical bills, it isn't going to get people out consuming again.

And pork. “Pork” is a cute term for “infrastructure projects in my area that give people jobs”. So I would encourage everyone from a Republican district to call your Congressperson and make sure none of the stimulus “pork” comes to your area to create jobs and give you better roads and bridges and cheaper health care. Because “pork” is bad, bad, bad.

]]> By: treen http://themoderatevoice.com/26161/the-republicans-have-nothing-to-party-about/comment-page-1/#comment-171417 treen Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:52:19 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26161/the-republicans-have-nothing-to-party-about/#comment-171417 Oh, for the love of God. Like Pelosi gave the Republicans any other options than to vote No as a bloc. She wouldn't even accept amendments, so when was anyone supposed to propose anything. Whatever you think of Republicans in general, the House Democrats did nothing to win my support of this joke of a "stimulus" bill. And Pelosi's smug grin when she gaveled it closed? That was just as despicable as anything Limbaugh or Palin could say or do. This is neither the time nor the place for playing games with legislation, but Pelosi and Co. are not rising to the occasion any more than anyone else is or isn't.<br><br>The Democrats appear to have no interest in fixing this country either with their wish list crap, so spare me your whining about "obstructionist" Republicans. Oh, for the love of God. Like Pelosi gave the Republicans any other options than to vote No as a bloc. She wouldn't even accept amendments, so when was anyone supposed to propose anything. Whatever you think of Republicans in general, the House Democrats did nothing to win my support of this joke of a “stimulus” bill. And Pelosi's smug grin when she gaveled it closed? That was just as despicable as anything Limbaugh or Palin could say or do. This is neither the time nor the place for playing games with legislation, but Pelosi and Co. are not rising to the occasion any more than anyone else is or isn't.

The Democrats appear to have no interest in fixing this country either with their wish list crap, so spare me your whining about “obstructionist” Republicans.

]]> By: CStanley http://themoderatevoice.com/26161/the-republicans-have-nothing-to-party-about/comment-page-1/#comment-171414 CStanley Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:42:35 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26161/the-republicans-have-nothing-to-party-about/#comment-171414 Does that mean we can fillibuster, DLS? :) Does that mean we can fillibuster, DLS? :)

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/26161/the-republicans-have-nothing-to-party-about/comment-page-1/#comment-171403 DLS Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:59:43 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26161/the-republicans-have-nothing-to-party-about/#comment-171403 "Those polls also show that a plurality of the American voters don't support the stimulus package in its current form."<br><br>In fact, a true supermajority (62%) in this country does NOT support the stimulus package in its current form. This is the important news, which this "moderate" [site] site has chosen to de-emphasize (while selecting extremist Brasch for publication) for some strange reason.<br><br><br>Pass as is ................................ 38%<br><br>Pass with major changes ..... 37%<br><br>Reject ........................................ 17%<br><br>Don't care ................................. 8%<br><br><br><a href="http://www.gallup.com/poll/114097/Americans-Support-Stimulus-Major-Changes.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.gallup.com/poll/114097/Americans-Sup...</a> “Those polls also show that a plurality of the American voters don't support the stimulus package in its current form.”

In fact, a true supermajority (62%) in this country does NOT support the stimulus package in its current form. This is the important news, which this “moderate” [site] site has chosen to de-emphasize (while selecting extremist Brasch for publication) for some strange reason.

Pass as is ………………………….. 38%

Pass with major changes ….. 37%

Reject …………………………………. 17%

Don't care …………………………… 8%

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114097/Americans-Sup…

]]> By: Davebo http://themoderatevoice.com/26161/the-republicans-have-nothing-to-party-about/comment-page-1/#comment-171402 Davebo Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:56:53 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26161/the-republicans-have-nothing-to-party-about/#comment-171402 If you wonder whether or not the GOP is serious about the economy and need for stimulus you need look no further than Republican congressional aides meeting with Joe the Plumber to gain his insight into the matter.<br><br>They could care less. If you wonder whether or not the GOP is serious about the economy and need for stimulus you need look no further than Republican congressional aides meeting with Joe the Plumber to gain his insight into the matter.

They could care less.

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/26161/the-republicans-have-nothing-to-party-about/comment-page-1/#comment-171400 DLS Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:41:11 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26161/the-republicans-have-nothing-to-party-about/#comment-171400 Most of us do NOT support the stimulus in its current form, not only because of bad experience with the bank bailout but also because of the nature of this "stimulus" gimmick-and-pork-laden monstrosity coming out of the House.<br><br>No doubt about the Dems' current popularity (a natural supermajority or true majority currently -- greater than 61.8%), though not for Congress (about which a number of Democrats are out of touch -- many actually viewing the Democratic Congress favorably).<br><br><br><a href="http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1098/democratic-favorability-advantage-widens" rel="nofollow">http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1098/democratic-fav...</a><br><br><br>And while Brasch regresses to his usual poor behavior, a more reasoned (and also critical) assessment of Bush can be found here.<br><br><br><a href="http://people-press.org/report/478/bush-legacy-public-opinion" rel="nofollow">http://people-press.org/report/478/bush-legacy-...</a> Most of us do NOT support the stimulus in its current form, not only because of bad experience with the bank bailout but also because of the nature of this “stimulus” gimmick-and-pork-laden monstrosity coming out of the House.

No doubt about the Dems' current popularity (a natural supermajority or true majority currently — greater than 61.8%), though not for Congress (about which a number of Democrats are out of touch — many actually viewing the Democratic Congress favorably).

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1098/democratic-fav…

And while Brasch regresses to his usual poor behavior, a more reasoned (and also critical) assessment of Bush can be found here.

http://people-press.org/report/478/bush-legacy-…

]]> By: CStanley http://themoderatevoice.com/26161/the-republicans-have-nothing-to-party-about/comment-page-1/#comment-171391 CStanley Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:03:51 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/26161/the-republicans-have-nothing-to-party-about/#comment-171391 Those polls also show that a plurality of the American voters don't support the stimulus package in its current form. Those polls also show that a plurality of the American voters don't support the stimulus package in its current form.

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