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		<title>By: Jillmz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jillmz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, um, Sil - I&#039;m not sure what&#039;s got you going so much but nothing here is all that new except to press the point that 1) Hamas has failed the people who elected them, unless the desire is violent resistance, in which case, that&#039;s what they elected and that&#039;s what they&#039;re getting 2) Hamas lacks leadership as evidenced by the reported split in a desire for a cease fire, which has reported in a variety of outlets, not just the J Post.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I didn&#039;t write about Iran and fear-mongering all that stuff. You can have all that and at that.  My point is about the failure of Hamas to serve the millions of Palestinians in their best interest, unless they too believe that they&#039;re best interest is limited to violent action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, um, Sil &#8211; I&#39;m not sure what&#39;s got you going so much but nothing here is all that new except to press the point that 1) Hamas has failed the people who elected them, unless the desire is violent resistance, in which case, that&#39;s what they elected and that&#39;s what they&#39;re getting 2) Hamas lacks leadership as evidenced by the reported split in a desire for a cease fire, which has reported in a variety of outlets, not just the J Post.</p>
<p>I didn&#39;t write about Iran and fear-mongering all that stuff. You can have all that and at that.  My point is about the failure of Hamas to serve the millions of Palestinians in their best interest, unless they too believe that they&#39;re best interest is limited to violent action.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sil - how much do you spend each year on tin foil?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sil &#8211; how much do you spend each year on tin foil?</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, here&#039;s a much lesser article I found about Iran on the Jerusalem Press site:&lt;br&gt;***********&lt;br&gt;Iran&#039;s Foreign Ministry says it is watching to see if remarks about engagement by US president-elect Barack Obama will lead to a change in US policy toward Teheran&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ministry spokesman Hasan Qashqavi has said in his weekly news briefing that they will be watching to see if Obama&#039;s remarks &quot;lead to essential change&quot; in US behavior towards Iran. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If there is real change, Iran will take the appropriate matching actions, he added in Monday&#039;s briefing. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Earlier this week Obama told ABC news channel that he wanted to improve relations with Iran, describing a &quot;new approach&quot; involving engagement.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The two countries haven&#039;t had diplomatic relations since 1979 when Iranian students took over US embassy for 444 days.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Source: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1231424937468&amp;pagename=JPost%252FJPArticle%252FShowFull&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1231...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;***********&lt;br&gt;Wow, no diplomatic or peaceful relations since 1979!  And now Iran is considering negotiating a truce with the Obama Administration??&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is HUGE news.  Such a small little story...  I wonder which one got the front page; this LITTLE blip with a NAMED source, Ministry spokesman Hasan Qashqavi, ADVOCATING PEACE between the US and Iran or the very LARGE AND PROMINENT one with links everywhere to it with an UN-NAMED source, that ADVOCATES HOSITILITIES between the US and Iran?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now who but who would make the call on which article to paste front and center and link the hell out of and which to eek out in a little blip, tucked away from everyone?  Who could possibly stand to profit from promoting war between the US and Iran instead of emphasizing peace.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Who...who...who...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, here&#39;s a much lesser article I found about Iran on the Jerusalem Press site:<br />***********<br />Iran&#39;s Foreign Ministry says it is watching to see if remarks about engagement by US president-elect Barack Obama will lead to a change in US policy toward Teheran</p>
<p>Ministry spokesman Hasan Qashqavi has said in his weekly news briefing that they will be watching to see if Obama&#39;s remarks &#8220;lead to essential change&#8221; in US behavior towards Iran. </p>
<p>If there is real change, Iran will take the appropriate matching actions, he added in Monday&#39;s briefing. </p>
<p>Earlier this week Obama told ABC news channel that he wanted to improve relations with Iran, describing a &#8220;new approach&#8221; involving engagement.</p>
<p>The two countries haven&#39;t had diplomatic relations since 1979 when Iranian students took over US embassy for 444 days.</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1231424937468&#038;pagename=JPost%252FJPArticle%252FShowFull" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1231.." rel="nofollow">http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1231..</a>.<br />***********<br />Wow, no diplomatic or peaceful relations since 1979!  And now Iran is considering negotiating a truce with the Obama Administration??</p>
<p>That is HUGE news.  Such a small little story&#8230;  I wonder which one got the front page; this LITTLE blip with a NAMED source, Ministry spokesman Hasan Qashqavi, ADVOCATING PEACE between the US and Iran or the very LARGE AND PROMINENT one with links everywhere to it with an UN-NAMED source, that ADVOCATES HOSITILITIES between the US and Iran?</p>
<p>Now who but who would make the call on which article to paste front and center and link the hell out of and which to eek out in a little blip, tucked away from everyone?  Who could possibly stand to profit from promoting war between the US and Iran instead of emphasizing peace.</p>
<p>Who&#8230;who&#8230;who&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do N-O-T-H-I-N-G Congress, do nothing Obama Administration.  For all news you get of Iran being involved in the Gaza situation: REQUIRE NAMED SOURCE and interview them personally, under a bright light.  Put them on a polygraph machine.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do not unwittingly participate in a deadly ruse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Keep an eye on Iran all you want.  Open a dialogue or not.  But do not let cheap idle gossip from &quot;unnamed sources&quot; lead you into making another blunder like you were duped into doing with Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do N-O-T-H-I-N-G Congress, do nothing Obama Administration.  For all news you get of Iran being involved in the Gaza situation: REQUIRE NAMED SOURCE and interview them personally, under a bright light.  Put them on a polygraph machine.</p>
<p>Do not unwittingly participate in a deadly ruse.</p>
<p>Keep an eye on Iran all you want.  Open a dialogue or not.  But do not let cheap idle gossip from &#8220;unnamed sources&#8221; lead you into making another blunder like you were duped into doing with Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iran is exerting heavy pressure on Hamas not to accept the Egyptian proposal for a cease-fire with Israel, an Egyptian government official said on Sunday...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;..The [B]official[/B] told The Jerusalem Post [B]by phone [/B]that two senior Iranian officials who visited Damascus recently warned Hamas leaders against accepting the proposal...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;...[B]The Egyptian official [/B]said that the two Iranian emissaries, Ali Larijani, Speaker of the Iranian Parliament, and Said Jalili of the Iranian Intelligence Service, met in the Syrian capital with Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal and Islamic Jihad Secretary-General Ramadan Shallah...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;..As soon as the Iranians heard about the Egyptian cease-fire initiative, they dispatched the two officials to Damascus on an urgent mission to warn the Palestinians against accepting it,&quot; [B]the Egyptian government official [/B]told the Post. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;The Iranians threatened to stop weapons supplies and funding to the Palestinian factions if they agreed to a cease-fire with Israel. The Iranians want to fight Israel and the US indirectly. They are doing this through Hamas in Palestine and Hizbullah in Lebanon&quot;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[B]The official [/B]pointed out that the Iranians were applying &quot;double standards&quot; regarding the current conflict - on the one hand, they encouraged Iranian men to volunteer to fight alongside Hamas; on the other hand, Iran&#039;s spiritual leader, Ali Khamenei, told the volunteers that they would not be permitted to join the fight against Israel.&lt;br&gt;Source: The Jerusalem Post&lt;br&gt;*****&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I want the UN-NAMED &quot;official&#039;s&quot; name and position and his history for accurate reporting.  Taking statements from unknown &quot;egyptian officials&quot; with language so agitating as to cause potential for citizens to be duped into thinking Iran is now some imminent threat (remember Iraq?) is foolhardy and irresponsible.  When The Jerusalem Post publishes information as potentially troublemaking as this, it needs to name it&#039;s sources and why it believes that source is credible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iran is exerting heavy pressure on Hamas not to accept the Egyptian proposal for a cease-fire with Israel, an Egyptian government official said on Sunday&#8230;</p>
<p>..The [B]official[/B] told The Jerusalem Post [B]by phone [/B]that two senior Iranian officials who visited Damascus recently warned Hamas leaders against accepting the proposal&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;[B]The Egyptian official [/B]said that the two Iranian emissaries, Ali Larijani, Speaker of the Iranian Parliament, and Said Jalili of the Iranian Intelligence Service, met in the Syrian capital with Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal and Islamic Jihad Secretary-General Ramadan Shallah&#8230;</p>
<p>..As soon as the Iranians heard about the Egyptian cease-fire initiative, they dispatched the two officials to Damascus on an urgent mission to warn the Palestinians against accepting it,&#8221; [B]the Egyptian government official [/B]told the Post. </p>
<p>&#8220;The Iranians threatened to stop weapons supplies and funding to the Palestinian factions if they agreed to a cease-fire with Israel. The Iranians want to fight Israel and the US indirectly. They are doing this through Hamas in Palestine and Hizbullah in Lebanon&#8221;. </p>
<p>[B]The official [/B]pointed out that the Iranians were applying &#8220;double standards&#8221; regarding the current conflict &#8211; on the one hand, they encouraged Iranian men to volunteer to fight alongside Hamas; on the other hand, Iran&#39;s spiritual leader, Ali Khamenei, told the volunteers that they would not be permitted to join the fight against Israel.<br />Source: The Jerusalem Post<br />*****</p>
<p>I want the UN-NAMED &#8220;official&#39;s&#8221; name and position and his history for accurate reporting.  Taking statements from unknown &#8220;egyptian officials&#8221; with language so agitating as to cause potential for citizens to be duped into thinking Iran is now some imminent threat (remember Iraq?) is foolhardy and irresponsible.  When The Jerusalem Post publishes information as potentially troublemaking as this, it needs to name it&#39;s sources and why it believes that source is credible.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, let&#039;s you and I take a stroll down recent-memory lane..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*****&lt;br&gt;&quot;US &#039;escalates covert Iran missions&#039;&lt;br&gt;Monday, June 30, 2008 :&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;US congressional leaders have agreed to a presidential request for up to $400 million in funding for covert operations against Iran, according to a report in the New Yorker magazine. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Previous cross-border operations have included the capture of Iranian security officers and the backing of anti-Tehran armed groups, said the report by Seymour Hersh, the investigative reporter. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The operations have been taking place since last year, the article said.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bush&#039;s request, made through a Presidential Finding document, was approved by US congressional leaders, including Democrats, late last year, the report said. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cross-border US operations against Iran include seizing members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and taking them across the border to Iraq for interrogation, the report said. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But the scale and the scope of the operations in Iran, which include the CIA, have now been significantly expanded, the New Yorker said, citing current and former officials.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Source: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/06/30/18512358.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/06/30/185...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;********&lt;br&gt;If you can sit through precisely the same schenanigans in Iraq and watch the identical hype unfold about &quot;needing to invade Iran&quot; without your radar getting activated...there just is no hope at all..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pay attention.  Pay attention..  PAY ATTENTION!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, let&#39;s you and I take a stroll down recent-memory lane..</p>
<p>*****<br />&#8220;US &#39;escalates covert Iran missions&#39;<br />Monday, June 30, 2008 :</p>
<p>US congressional leaders have agreed to a presidential request for up to $400 million in funding for covert operations against Iran, according to a report in the New Yorker magazine. </p>
<p>Previous cross-border operations have included the capture of Iranian security officers and the backing of anti-Tehran armed groups, said the report by Seymour Hersh, the investigative reporter. </p>
<p>The operations have been taking place since last year, the article said.</p>
<p>Bush&#39;s request, made through a Presidential Finding document, was approved by US congressional leaders, including Democrats, late last year, the report said. </p>
<p>Cross-border US operations against Iran include seizing members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and taking them across the border to Iraq for interrogation, the report said. </p>
<p>But the scale and the scope of the operations in Iran, which include the CIA, have now been significantly expanded, the New Yorker said, citing current and former officials.</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/06/30/18512358.php" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/06/30/185.." rel="nofollow">http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/06/30/185..</a>.<br />********<br />If you can sit through precisely the same schenanigans in Iraq and watch the identical hype unfold about &#8220;needing to invade Iran&#8221; without your radar getting activated&#8230;there just is no hope at all..</p>
<p>Pay attention.  Pay attention..  PAY ATTENTION!</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The Iranians threatened to stop weapons supplies and funding to the Palestinian factions if they agreed to a cease-fire with Israel. The Iranians want to fight Israel and the US indirectly. They are doing this through Hamas in Palestine and Hizbullah in Lebanon”.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*[Egyptian political analyst Magdi Khalil] said that Hamas was not only jeopardizing Egypt’s national security, but had also destroyed the Palestinians’ dream of statehood. “By endorsing the Iranian agenda, Hamas has brought the Iranians to Egypt’s eastern border,” he said. “Hamas has also copied Hizbullah’s policy of entering into pointless adventures.*&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;HA!  I KNEW I was right.  Now this recent spindoctoring of the situation really does get to the heart of the matter doesn&#039;t it?  It&#039;s all about the Iranians...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Get ready folks, Bushco&#039;s Criminal Invasion Agitators almost have their excuse to invade Iran!  Yippeee!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(stay tuned for more &quot;links&quot; to how BAD Iran is!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The Iranians threatened to stop weapons supplies and funding to the Palestinian factions if they agreed to a cease-fire with Israel. The Iranians want to fight Israel and the US indirectly. They are doing this through Hamas in Palestine and Hizbullah in Lebanon”.</p>
<p>*[Egyptian political analyst Magdi Khalil] said that Hamas was not only jeopardizing Egypt’s national security, but had also destroyed the Palestinians’ dream of statehood. “By endorsing the Iranian agenda, Hamas has brought the Iranians to Egypt’s eastern border,” he said. “Hamas has also copied Hizbullah’s policy of entering into pointless adventures.*</p>
<p>HA!  I KNEW I was right.  Now this recent spindoctoring of the situation really does get to the heart of the matter doesn&#39;t it?  It&#39;s all about the Iranians&#8230;</p>
<p>Get ready folks, Bushco&#39;s Criminal Invasion Agitators almost have their excuse to invade Iran!  Yippeee!!!</p>
<p>(stay tuned for more &#8220;links&#8221; to how BAD Iran is!)</p>
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